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Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 09:39
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:15
I think this preseason and all of our cuts coming back to us on the Psquad is another strong illustration of how fans usually overstate their own players.

It's why I don't get too worried about our guys getting claimed by other teams.

Because usually they don't.
all fans over value some players including you and everyone else here, and we do lose players from our PS almost every year, and this year has just begun, I'am thinking we'll lose several from this group.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 10:02
by go pak go
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:39
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:15
I think this preseason and all of our cuts coming back to us on the Psquad is another strong illustration of how fans usually overstate their own players.

It's why I don't get too worried about our guys getting claimed by other teams.

Because usually they don't.
all fans over value some players including you and everyone else here,
Isn't that essentially what I just said?

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 10:07
by Cdragon
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:39
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:15
I think this preseason and all of our cuts coming back to us on the Psquad is another strong illustration of how fans usually overstate their own players.

It's why I don't get too worried about our guys getting claimed by other teams.

Because usually they don't.
all fans over value some players including you and everyone else here, and we do lose players from our PS almost every year, and this year has just begun, I'am thinking we'll lose several from this group.
Sending our guys out against starters and having their heads handed to them doesn't give other teams too much to evaluate.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 10:39
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 10:02
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:39
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:15
I think this preseason and all of our cuts coming back to us on the Psquad is another strong illustration of how fans usually overstate their own players.

It's why I don't get too worried about our guys getting claimed by other teams.

Because usually they don't.
all fans over value some players including you and everyone else here,
Isn't that essentially what I just said?
your comment led me to believe that you excluded yourself when saying fans over value, specially when you follow it up with " YOU never get worried about losing PS players"
you just over valued Beagleton, and yes we do lose PS players, so no you didn't say the same thing.

you talk in riddles, it's near impossible to understand some of your comments

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 10:48
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 07:15
Yoop wrote:
01 Sep 2021 21:13
lupedafiasco wrote:
01 Sep 2021 20:56


Hes not remembered for fumbles. Dudes are tripping.
lis, I hardly remember him, and I bet most fans don't remember him either, he sure as hell wasn't better then Lacy, we've had plenty of RB's just like Franklin, who had a couple of very good games the only difference is they didn't get hurt, but they didn't last either.

people act as though Franklin was bound for the HOF :rotf:

A wise man quoted this. I think he was asking himself this question but never answered it.
Yoop wrote:
31 Aug 2021 11:54
why do you continue to expound, and exaggerate comments made in this forum?
heres another example of that, what is it that you are trying to get across to me, please excuse me for not being a 30 yr old top of his class college grad soon to be a CVA, CVO, or some other triple letter rich kid, just maybe if you would talk like a normal human being we could see eye to eye versus you constantly insulting me or remarking about my diminishing memory as though I've lost it all.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 10:53
by lupedafiasco
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 10:39
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 10:02
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:39


all fans over value some players including you and everyone else here,
Isn't that essentially what I just said?
your comment led me to believe that you excluded yourself when saying fans over value, specially when you follow it up with " YOU never get worried about losing PS players"
you just over valued Beagleton, and yes we do lose PS players, so no you didn't say the same thing.

you talk in riddles, it's near impossible to understand some of your comments
There is not a single riddle in that post.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 11:26
by go pak go
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 10:39
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 10:02
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:39


all fans over value some players including you and everyone else here,
Isn't that essentially what I just said?
your comment led me to believe that you excluded yourself when saying fans over value, specially when you follow it up with " YOU never get worried about losing PS players"
you just over valued Beagleton, and yes we do lose PS players, so no you didn't say the same thing.

you talk in riddles, it's near impossible to understand some of your comments
I didn't over value Beggelton. I said I feel bad for Beggelton because he doesn't have a job. :roll:

This is my literal quote. It's not a riddle.
Feel bad for Beggelton honestly. He has done what he has needed to do to at least be on an expanded NFL Practice Squad.
Behind Taylor, he was our 2nd most prodictive WR in the preseason. I feel bad for him. He gave it is his best and couldn't stick in the NFL for a 2nd year.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 11:32
by salmar80
Yoop wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:18
Drj820 wrote:
02 Sep 2021 09:12
I think there is something more to the Kamal story. Bad Behavior? Not Vaxxed? Bad attitude? No clue, but something seems up. He flashed way too much potential to be in street clothes at this point. Packers usually take waaay longer to give up on draft picks that actually find the field their rookie season.
I think so to, I went looking for some dirt on him only to be interupted by telemarketers :lol: my phone is ringing off the hook :lol: but it has to be something besides lack of physical ability, ( dim light bulb)
Andy Herman analyzed Kamal when he got released, and to summarize, Kamal had zero awareness, and hadn't gained any in a year. Essentially he usually went fast....but usually to wrong direction.


Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 11:54
by Yoop
Thanks Sal. Herman makes a good point, I'd comment further but I'am tired of defending every comment I make.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:24
by BSA
salmar80 wrote:
02 Sep 2021 11:32
Andy Herman analyzed Kamal when he got released, and to summarize, Kamal had zero awareness, and hadn't gained any in a year. Essentially he usually went fast....but usually to wrong direction.
Add to that Joe Barry's quote that he values instincts very highly at ILB and said its not something you can really teach.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:30
by go pak go
We all like Kamal because he played fast and was a thumper.

The problem is his fast play was wrong play and his thumping led to not actually making the tackle.

Martin was terrible last year. He continued to show he was terrible this year. It's too bad because he has the talent. But it's a results league. He was a major liability on defense, we just didn't want to see it because we wanted him to succeed so bad based on the tweets we saw last August.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:41
by YoHoChecko
Wait so I’m confused. Is Begelton on the PS or not?

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:43
by YoHoChecko
YoHoChecko wrote:
02 Sep 2021 12:41
Wait so I’m confused. Is Begelton on the PS or not?
Ok he’s not listed on the team website but he is on the list added to the original post.

Weird that Blair is here but not Begelton.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:43
by go pak go
YoHoChecko wrote:
02 Sep 2021 12:41
Wait so I’m confused. Is Begelton on the PS or not?
He is not on the Practice Squad.

EQSB is on the Practice Squad.

Reggie Beggelton is not on the Practice Squad.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:44
by go pak go
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Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:48
by YoHoChecko
I very much never understood the amount of hype Martin got around here. He was a fifth rounder who made a few splash plays in camp and somehow got penciled in as a future starter by everyone on the board.

Even playing poorly last year and being third string in camp could barely shake the confidence of his defenders in the rank the roster exercise, where my attempts to push Ty Summers ahead of him (which was patently obviously true) failed resoundingly.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:49
by Yoop
salmar80 wrote:
02 Sep 2021 11:32
went fast....but usually to wrong direction.
thing is this can be said for a lot of interior rookie players, where reading the offense right determines your responsibility's and which gap assignment is yours and not your position partners, Burks was also fast but chose wrong to often, however Burks was a very good ST's player, I thought Martin was to, guess I was wrong about that.

my original point was, our ILB situation was in such poor shape a year ago that Martin started, now no one even wants him on there PS, soooo I'd consider him a draft bust right now.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 12:49
by Drj820
go pak go wrote:
02 Sep 2021 12:30
We all like Kamal because he played fast and was a thumper.

The problem is his fast play was wrong play and his thumping led to not actually making the tackle.

Martin was terrible last year. He continued to show he was terrible this year. It's too bad because he has the talent. But it's a results league. He was a major liability on defense, we just didn't want to see it because we wanted him to succeed so bad based on the tweets we saw last August.
Yeah I just think that players that are 1) drafted 2) play fast and 3) thump usually get to at least finish training camp in their second year if nothing off the field is going on.

Playing fast, thumping, young, and cheap are all qualities most DCs would want to work with for at least a couple of seasons. Not like the rest of the ILB room is stellar and deep.

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 13:08
by Yoop
YoHoChecko wrote:
02 Sep 2021 12:48
I very much never understood the amount of hype Martin got around here. He was a fifth rounder who made a few splash plays in camp and somehow got penciled in as a future starter by everyone on the board.

Even playing poorly last year and being third string in camp could barely shake the confidence of his defenders in the rank the roster exercise, where my attempts to push Ty Summers ahead of him (which was patently obviously true) failed resoundingly.
I was never that impressed with Summers either, I doubt anyone was, I think thats what swayed people to pick Martin, simply wanted a fresh body, I think the coaches did to or Summers would have played, obviously Guty and the coaches thought enough about him to take him in round 5, imo he's more athletically gifted then Summers as well, why wouldn't fans be impressed?

Re: Practice Squad signings

Posted: 02 Sep 2021 13:27
by YoHoChecko
I don’t particularly care who was impressed with whom. Summers was playing with the 1s routinely this off-season and Martin was playing routinely with the 2s and 3s. People made dumb excuses like “Summers is wearing the green dot and calling plays because he’s more experienced” even though less experienced undrafted Barnes was the other guy with green dot duty.

And if you aren’t impressed with Summers and Martin is hopelessly behind him in the rotations, that should convey information about Martin that many simply ignored