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I was, along with the adequate run blocking, hence my original comment that started this tangent.

Aaron Jones was 10 carries for 23 yards
AJ Dillon was 20 carries for 69 yards.

The stat above shows 61 of Dillon's 69 yards came after contact. That means Dillon got 8 yards on 20 carries before contact. that is 0.4 yards before contact.

I just can't give the rushing Oline an adequate grade. I think they struggled and AJ Dillon was awesome. I agree the pass protection was good and definitely deserves praise.

Oh c’mon. You’re gonna cite yards before contact as a run blocking stat? What is the norm? What is your expectation? That RBs get 4 yds downfield before touched? I’d venture to guess a great majority of every RB stat line has a heavy lean toward yards after contact.

Fact is, the RBs had a stat line of 30 carries for 92 yards. Just over 3 yds/carry. Considering they were doing a lot of obvious handoffs into stacked boxes to run down the clock in the 4th qtr, I’d say even that stat is a bit skewed.

This makeshift O-Line performed admirably considering the number of backups playing and the quality of their opponent. The national punditry agrees. Local beat writers agree. Rodgers agrees. MLF agrees.

The only person seemingly raising a stink about their performance is you. I honestly have no idea what your expectation was…?

Edit: for reference, the Rams are 3rd best defensively league wide against the run allowing 3.9 yds/att. The Packers averaged 3.1 yds/att with their 3rd string LT, 2nd string LG, 2nd string C, rookie RG, and veteran RT.

I’d personally characterize their run game performance as, at a minimum, adequate. Their pass protection exceeded expectations BY FAR. That, to me, was worthy of consideration in this weekly competition of ours. But that’s me.

No APB. I simply first went off my eyes and saw our RBs were hit immediately all game right away. I am going off my eyes to see that the running game was honest to goodness about AJ Dillon turning nothing into something because he simply wouldn't go down. I don't find it coincidence that Aaron Jones was largely irrelevant because he had zero room to squeeze through holes or make guys miss. This was about dragging defenders to get yards.

I have no problem saying the Oline performed admirably well in pass protection. But I am just not willing to say that for the run blocking because it was Dillon who was carrying Dlinemen 4 yards down the field to get a gain of 4 yards.

So yeah, when stats line up and support what I see (I mean 8 total yards before contact on 20 rushing attempts is obviously low no matter how you slice it), I will bring that in to support my initial thought.

You brought in a Rodgers quote that was talking about pass protection. I only ever brought up run blocking. Even MLF's comments were much more about "sticking with the run" even when it wasn't really producing.

Lots of people on this forum agree with me. Andy Herman on Let's Talk Football agrees with me. I don't listen to national media because national media is lazy. Not much attention has been paid to the run blocking in the local media. It has been much more about Cobb in the 1st half, only allowing one sack, AJ Dillon running hard and the defense. If you want to use the term adequate to describe it I guess that is fine but my question would be how much worse would it then need to be in order to be below adequate? The one thing I thought they did adequate on is they seemed to do just enough on their 1 or 2 3rd and 1 conversions. But they didn't succeed on 2nd and goal from the 1. Dillon went absolutely nowhere and required Rodgers to run it in on 3rd and goal a play later.

What I will say is Yosh Nijman in pass protection was really impressive. I like him as our backup LT. And AJ Dillon is the perfect sauce for our offense when nothing else is working. If we aren't down by more than 2 scores, we will always be in a game simply if we continue to feed Dillon the ball.

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The OL held up, better than expected. Both in run and pass, made Donald basically a non factor.


But at the same time, did nothing above and beyond to be deserving of the award over a few other guys.

Maybe when we were up 19 in the fourth and we put up a nice 6-7 minute scoring drive to ice it, I’d be more supportive. But we got goose egg in like 4 series and stupidly made a closer game than it should have been.

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It really helps the OL when the game plan is to get the ball out of Rodgers hands quickly.

Passing Offense
Rodgers was 28-of-45 passing for 307 yards and two touchdowns. He was in complete control. In a performance reminiscent of last year’s MVP season, he mostly took what the Rams gave him. On passes less than 10 yards downfield, Rodgers was 24-of-26 for 172 yards and two touchdowns, according to Pro Football Focus. There have been times when he’s been a bit skittish when pressured but he was rarely, if ever, flustered on Sunday.


Davante Adams was sensational, catching 8-of-9 targets for 104 yards. Randall Cobb caught four passes for 95 yards in the first half before sitting out the second half with a groin injury. Maybe Amari Rodgers would have been more advanced if force-fed snaps, but Aaron Rodgers was right in pressing general manager Brian Gutekunst to acquire Cobb at the start of training camp. Cobb is like a fire extinguisher. When Rodgers needs him, he can smash the glass and hit Cobb on a key play.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/.amp/new ... geles-rams

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I mean, I picked the dang Oline, and even I won't claim they were any good at run blocking, except for some short yardage plays.

My argument for some honorable mentions is that if you look at the names on our Oline and the names on Rams defense, we had no business allowing only one sack. Nor to allow the offense to function as normally as it did.

Our Oline in that game costs a combined 9.4M against the cap. Von Miller is costing over twice that amount against the Broncos cap, and he's not even on their team anymore. I'm willing to bet that's by far the cheapest OL to win a game this season. Probably also cheapest in terms of draft capita. A 3rd rounder (bargain of a FA RT), a 4th rounder, a 6th rounder and two UDFAs.