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Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:42
by bud fox
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:41
No offense is putting up points in that weather? Holy hell is that a bad take. 14 points is too much to ask? Wow, the stretches are amazing!
Oh then 1 WR allows us to score more than 10, ha!
The other team didn't.
Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:47
by salmar80
bud fox wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:38
No off is putting up points in that weather today. Packers management and coaching should know how important special teams would be in GB playoff games.
Also special teams isn't a cap problem.
Yeah, I never thought STs could even be this devastating of a problem. I thought at worst they put us in a minor disadvantage.
I'm not into firing Gutey after finding some GEMS like Douglas and Campbell, best value deals in the league. And some draft finds.
Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:50
by lupedafiasco
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:41
No offense is putting up points in that weather? Holy hell is that a bad take. 14 points is too much to ask? Wow, the stretches are amazing!
Oh then 1 WR allows us to score more than 10, ha!
I tell you. Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, JMon Moore, Cole Madison, JK Scott, MVS, Darnell Savage, Egleton Jenkins, Jace Sternberger, Keke Kingsley, Jordan Love, AJ Dillon, Josiah Degaura, Kamal Martin... They killed it tonight. All top 5 picks. Not a one of them did anything tonight. This reminds me of 2016 after we lost to the Falcons and I pointed out the lack of talent and ascending players and then we missed the playoffs 2 straight years because poor contracts and draft picks.
But Ill just sit here and sip my beer while you act stupid like none of that ever happened. History repeats itself and no one cares.
Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:51
by Pckfn23
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:50
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:41
No offense is putting up points in that weather? Holy hell is that a bad take. 14 points is too much to ask? Wow, the stretches are amazing!
Oh then 1 WR allows us to score more than 10, ha!
I tell you. Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, JMon Moore, Cole Madison, JK Scott, MVS, Darnell Savage, Egleton Jenkins, Jace Sternberger, Keke Kingsley, Jordan Love, AJ Dillon, Josiah Degaura, Kamal Martin... They killed it tonight. All top 5 picks. Not a one of them did anything tonight. This reminds me of 2016 after we lost to the Falcons and I pointed out the lack of talent and ascending players and then we missed the playoffs 2 straight years because poor contracts and draft picks.
But Ill just sit here and sip my beer while you act stupid like none of that ever happened. History repeats itself and no one cares.
I don't even know what you are trying to say here? Are you saying the reason we didn't win tonight is Gutekunst is a poor GM?
Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:53
by texas
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:34
bud fox wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:22
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:10
I'll have no trouble ignoring folks like the pathetic version of @lupedafiasco who is showing up tonight.
Aaron Rodgers is such a MOST VALUABLE PLAYER that he only needs superior weapons, a fantastic defence, superb STs, a dominant running game AND a wall of an Oline to give him a chance at a SB.
If any of the above fail, don't blame poor Aaron Rodgers! He's just a victim of poor team management. It's not like the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER OF THE ENTIRE LEAGUE is expected to carry an imperfect team or something...
So with that poor oline and bad receivers, his offense still outscored the other teams offense
Does he have to score double the other team offense? Triple? Quadruple?
14 points would've been enough.
Again: What the $%@# is the point of having an MVP if not pay him a crapload of money to overcome shortcomings caused by us paying him a crapload of money?
Y'all seem to want a HoF level QB, along with a team with zero weaknesses. Bad news for you: A team with zero holes is only possible if the QB is on a rookie contract. Deal with it.
Just so happens there is this curious trend over the past 2 decades of QBs on rookie or weak contracts winning the SB
Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:53
by TheGreenMan
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:50
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:41
No offense is putting up points in that weather? Holy hell is that a bad take. 14 points is too much to ask? Wow, the stretches are amazing!
Oh then 1 WR allows us to score more than 10, ha!
I tell you. Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, JMon Moore, Cole Madison, JK Scott, MVS, Darnell Savage, Egleton Jenkins, Jace Sternberger, Keke Kingsley, Jordan Love, AJ Dillon, Josiah Degaura, Kamal Martin... They killed it tonight. All top 5 picks. Not a one of them did anything tonight. This reminds me of 2016 after we lost to the Falcons and I pointed out the lack of talent and ascending players and then we missed the playoffs 2 straight years because poor contracts and draft picks.
But Ill just sit here and sip my beer while you act stupid like none of that ever happened. History repeats itself and no one cares.
What does... half of those players... have anything to do with tonight?
Arguably the #1 offense in the league, still couldn't put up more than 10pts.
Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:55
by texas
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:47
bud fox wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:38
No off is putting up points in that weather today. Packers management and coaching should know how important special teams would be in GB playoff games.
Also special teams isn't a cap problem.
Yeah, I never thought STs could even be this devastating of a problem. I thought at worst they put us in a minor disadvantage.
I'm not into firing Gutey after finding some GEMS like Douglas and Campbell, best value deals in the league. And some draft finds.
Same. Aikman or Buck even mentioned it at the beginning of the game and I dismissed it.
Just add this one to the list of legendary playoff performances by our team over the past decade. Idk if I've ever seen such a bad ST performance. Maybe "the Bears are who we thought they were" game comes to mind.
Re: I tried
Posted: 22 Jan 2022 23:58
by TheGreenMan
Definitely the worst ST performance in my lifetime, playoffs or not.
Blocked FG.
Gashed on kick offs.
Awful punting.
Blocked punt for TD.
And the game winner, where it all comes down to a block, we have 10 on the field.
This one had it all.
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:09
by bud fox
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:47
bud fox wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:38
No off is putting up points in that weather today. Packers management and coaching should know how important special teams would be in GB playoff games.
Also special teams isn't a cap problem.
Yeah, I never thought STs could even be this devastating of a problem. I thought at worst they put us in a minor disadvantage.
I'm not into firing Gutey after finding some GEMS like Douglas and Campbell, best value deals in the league. And some draft finds.
Yeah I don't really put it on Gute. It's a coaching issue. MLF should've taken control earlier in the season, said as much in the presser
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:10
by Drj820
bud fox wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:09
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:47
bud fox wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:38
No off is putting up points in that weather today. Packers management and coaching should know how important special teams would be in GB playoff games.
Also special teams isn't a cap problem.
Yeah, I never thought STs could even be this devastating of a problem. I thought at worst they put us in a minor disadvantage.
I'm not into firing Gutey after finding some GEMS like Douglas and Campbell, best value deals in the league. And some draft finds.
Yeah I don't really put it on Gute. It's a coaching issue. MLF should've taken control earlier in the season, said as much in the presser
Why didnt Lafleur announce the firing of Drayton in the presser?
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:13
by Crazylegs Starks
Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:10
bud fox wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:09
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:47
Yeah, I never thought STs could even be this devastating of a problem. I thought at worst they put us in a minor disadvantage.
I'm not into firing Gutey after finding some GEMS like Douglas and Campbell, best value deals in the league. And some draft finds.
Yeah I don't really put it on Gute. It's a coaching issue. MLF should've taken control earlier in the season, said as much in the presser
Why didnt Lafleur announce the firing of Drayton in the presser?
Need to have the exit interview and have Drayton fill out some HR paperwork. "Maurice, where do you want your last paycheck sent?"
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:14
by texas
Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:10
bud fox wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:09
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:47
Yeah, I never thought STs could even be this devastating of a problem. I thought at worst they put us in a minor disadvantage.
I'm not into firing Gutey after finding some GEMS like Douglas and Campbell, best value deals in the league. And some draft finds.
Yeah I don't really put it on Gute. It's a coaching issue. MLF should've taken control earlier in the season, said as much in the presser
Why didnt Lafleur announce the firing of Drayton in the presser?
Someone should have reminded him a couple weeks ago that Baltimore fired their OC with like a couple weeks to go in 2012 and ended up winning their Super Bowl. Because their OC was an incompetent fool and you have to remove those guys before the playoffs or else they might be your downfall...
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:20
by salmar80
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:50
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:41
No offense is putting up points in that weather? Holy hell is that a bad take. 14 points is too much to ask? Wow, the stretches are amazing!
Oh then 1 WR allows us to score more than 10, ha!
I tell you. Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, JMon Moore, Cole Madison, JK Scott, MVS, Darnell Savage, Egleton Jenkins, Jace Sternberger, Keke Kingsley, Jordan Love, AJ Dillon, Josiah Degaura, Kamal Martin... They killed it tonight. All top 5 picks. Not a one of them did anything tonight. This reminds me of 2016 after we lost to the Falcons and I pointed out the lack of talent and ascending players and then we missed the playoffs 2 straight years because poor contracts and draft picks.
But Ill just sit here and sip my beer while you act stupid like none of that ever happened. History repeats itself and no one cares.
No, I just love the ingenious hindsight of vultures enjoying bites off a fresh corpse.
'
Sip your beer, enjoy it.
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:21
by lupedafiasco
Drj820 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:10
bud fox wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:09
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:47
Yeah, I never thought STs could even be this devastating of a problem. I thought at worst they put us in a minor disadvantage.
I'm not into firing Gutey after finding some GEMS like Douglas and Campbell, best value deals in the league. And some draft finds.
Yeah I don't really put it on Gute. It's a coaching issue. MLF should've taken control earlier in the season, said as much in the presser
Why didnt Lafleur announce the firing of Drayton in the presser?
Same reason he didnt after the bye.
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:26
by lupedafiasco
salmar80 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:20
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:50
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:41
No offense is putting up points in that weather? Holy hell is that a bad take. 14 points is too much to ask? Wow, the stretches are amazing!
Oh then 1 WR allows us to score more than 10, ha!
I tell you. Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, JMon Moore, Cole Madison, JK Scott, MVS, Darnell Savage, Egleton Jenkins, Jace Sternberger, Keke Kingsley, Jordan Love, AJ Dillon, Josiah Degaura, Kamal Martin... They killed it tonight. All top 5 picks. Not a one of them did anything tonight. This reminds me of 2016 after we lost to the Falcons and I pointed out the lack of talent and ascending players and then we missed the playoffs 2 straight years because poor contracts and draft picks.
But Ill just sit here and sip my beer while you act stupid like none of that ever happened. History repeats itself and no one cares.
No, I just love the ingenious hindsight of vultures enjoying bites off a fresh corpse.
'
Sip your beer, enjoy it.
Is it hindsight if Ive been saying Gutenkunst has been failing in the draft for a while?
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:32
by Pugger
Labrev wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 22:36
Dude, no. The D held them to 10 points until the last drive, 13 on the day. An elite QB (AT HOME) should be able to top that within four quarters.
Rodgers may not be the biggest reason we lost or even the second but he was definitely WAYYY higher on the list than coach and GM.
The D actually gave up 6 points. Our abysmal special teams gave SF a gift touch down. Rodgers didn't play great but he wasn't alone.
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:34
by salmar80
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:26
salmar80 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:20
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:50
I tell you. Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, JMon Moore, Cole Madison, JK Scott, MVS, Darnell Savage, Egleton Jenkins, Jace Sternberger, Keke Kingsley, Jordan Love, AJ Dillon, Josiah Degaura, Kamal Martin... They killed it tonight. All top 5 picks. Not a one of them did anything tonight. This reminds me of 2016 after we lost to the Falcons and I pointed out the lack of talent and ascending players and then we missed the playoffs 2 straight years because poor contracts and draft picks.
But Ill just sit here and sip my beer while you act stupid like none of that ever happened. History repeats itself and no one cares.
No, I just love the ingenious hindsight of vultures enjoying bites off a fresh corpse.
'
Sip your beer, enjoy it.
Is it hindsight if Ive been saying Gutenkunst has been failing in the draft for a while?
Well, it would be hindsight. But it would uncover your unrealistic expectations and failure at draft analysis.
Are you sure you wanna go there?
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:42
by Pugger
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:10
I'll have no trouble ignoring folks like the pathetic version of @lupedafiasco who is showing up tonight.
Aaron Rodgers is such a MOST VALUABLE PLAYER that he only needs superior weapons, a fantastic defence, superb STs, a dominant running game AND a wall of an Oline to give him a chance at a SB.
If any of the above fail, don't blame poor Aaron Rodgers! He's just a victim of poor team management. It's not like the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER OF THE ENTIRE LEAGUE is expected to carry an imperfect team or something...
Football is the ultimate team game. Rodgers didn't need superb STs but average would have been good enough. I lay the blame for that mess right at MLF's feet for not fixing this disaster MONTHS ago. ST took 3 points for us off the board right before the half and gave SF a gift TD in the fourth.
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:44
by lupedafiasco
salmar80 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:34
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:26
salmar80 wrote: ↑23 Jan 2022 00:20
No, I just love the ingenious hindsight of vultures enjoying bites off a fresh corpse.
'
Sip your beer, enjoy it.
Is it hindsight if Ive been saying Gutenkunst has been failing in the draft for a while?
Well, it would be hindsight. But it would uncover your unrealistic expectations and failure at draft analysis.
Are you sure you wanna go there?
Ive gone there time and time again. Its not unrealistic. You are just choosing to be blind.
Enjoy the cap hell we are in though. Should be interesting. Especially with nothing to show for it.
Re: I tried
Posted: 23 Jan 2022 00:46
by Pugger
TheGreenMan wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:26
bud fox wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:22
salmar80 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2022 23:10
I'll have no trouble ignoring folks like the pathetic version of @lupedafiasco who is showing up tonight.
Aaron Rodgers is such a MOST VALUABLE PLAYER that he only needs superior weapons, a fantastic defence, superb STs, a dominant running game AND a wall of an Oline to give him a chance at a SB.
If any of the above fail, don't blame poor Aaron Rodgers! He's just a victim of poor team management. It's not like the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER OF THE ENTIRE LEAGUE is expected to carry an imperfect team or something...
So with that poor oline and bad receivers, his offense still outscored the other teams offense
Does he have to score double the other team offense? Triple? Quadruple?
I can't think of a single incident where people would defend such a high powered offense, run by your MVP, on any team... arguing that 10pts should enough. ANY fanbase. In ANY situation.
... But here we are tonight.
I suspect a lot of folks here are not considering how the loss of Dillon effected our running game and this offense tonight.