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Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 01 Jul 2021 15:42
by NCF
Half Empty wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:35
NCF wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:16

And absolutely not equivalent, but still, some context:

Not picking a fight, but why isn't it equivalent? I do that all the time with players and fines, losses to holdouts, etc. What am I missing?
Because scaling between an individual and a corporation is not the same. I am not going out of my way to say it's not the same (even though it's not), just expected the fight to be coming at me from the other side, so I threw that in.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 01 Jul 2021 17:18
by go pak go
Breaking News: WFT lays off 12 women to help pay for $10MM fine.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 01 Jul 2021 17:21
by Pckfn23
So why is WFT being fined? I am behind the times, I guess.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 01 Jul 2021 17:41
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote:
01 Jul 2021 17:21
So why is WFT being fined? I am behind the times, I guess.
I think there was a significant toxic work environment for years and years where basically sexual harassment and toxicity towards women were happening.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 01 Jul 2021 18:45
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote:
01 Jul 2021 17:41
Pckfn23 wrote:
01 Jul 2021 17:21
So why is WFT being fined? I am behind the times, I guess.
I think there was a significant toxic work environment for years and years where basically sexual harassment and toxicity towards women were happening.
Gotcha, thanks.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 02 Jul 2021 02:20
by Scott4Pack
Is there not yet a TC schedule, as far as practices open to the public? I’m interested. Gonna be in WI the first half of August anyhow. Might as well take a day in GB and Lambeau!

:-)

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 02 Jul 2021 11:16
by paco
Cowboys are going to be on Hard Knocks. MM is going to HATE it!

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 02 Jul 2021 11:37
by NCF
paco wrote:
02 Jul 2021 11:16
Cowboys are going to be on Hard Knocks. MM is going to HATE it!
It's like anything...

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 02 Jul 2021 12:21
by Crazylegs Starks
paco wrote:
02 Jul 2021 11:16
Cowboys are going to be on Hard Knocks. MM is going to HATE it!
The cameras are going to catch him sneaking away for a massage

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 02 Jul 2021 13:40
by lupedafiasco
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
02 Jul 2021 12:21
paco wrote:
02 Jul 2021 11:16
Cowboys are going to be on Hard Knocks. MM is going to HATE it!
The cameras are going to catch him sneaking away for a massage
And eating.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 02 Jul 2021 14:02
by Yoop
Crazylegs Starks wrote:
02 Jul 2021 12:21
paco wrote:
02 Jul 2021 11:16
Cowboys are going to be on Hard Knocks. MM is going to HATE it!
The cameras are going to catch him sneaking away for a massage
:thwap: the dis respect for our former coach :rotf: I hope he doesn't do anything to embarrass himself, again :lol:

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 04 Jul 2021 07:34
by Cdragon
NCF wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:42
Half Empty wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:35
NCF wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:16

And absolutely not equivalent, but still, some context:

Not picking a fight, but why isn't it equivalent? I do that all the time with players and fines, losses to holdouts, etc. What am I missing?
Because scaling between an individual and a corporation is not the same. I am not going out of my way to say it's not the same (even though it's not), just expected the fight to be coming at me from the other side, so I threw that in.
I don't think it is equivalent because the WFT isn't in direct competition with anybody. They have a guaranteed revenue stream, market, and fan base. Add a buck to everything they sell and five more on parking and they make money because that raise is never coming off. It might be a short term squeeze because of the covid year but it won't change the owner's attitude. I suppose the cash goes to charity and not to the aggrieved parties so they will still have to sue a major corporation to see a dime.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 04 Jul 2021 07:43
by Half Empty
Again, semantics. If one keeps adding or changing definitions or parameters, the results change. It must be me, since I gave up replies in another forum for the same reason, but I still think x% of an amount is equivalent to x% of a different amount. Carry on. :)

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 05 Jul 2021 02:02
by Raptorman
NCF wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:42
Half Empty wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:35
NCF wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:16

And absolutely not equivalent, but still, some context:

Not picking a fight, but why isn't it equivalent? I do that all the time with players and fines, losses to holdouts, etc. What am I missing?
Because scaling between an individual and a corporation is not the same. I am not going out of my way to say it's not the same (even though it's not), just expected the fight to be coming at me from the other side, so I threw that in.
I wonder. Is the fine a tax-deductible business expense for the corporation? My bet it is.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 05 Jul 2021 07:13
by go pak go
Raptorman wrote:
05 Jul 2021 02:02
NCF wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:42
Half Empty wrote:
01 Jul 2021 15:35


Not picking a fight, but why isn't it equivalent? I do that all the time with players and fines, losses to holdouts, etc. What am I missing?
Because scaling between an individual and a corporation is not the same. I am not going out of my way to say it's not the same (even though it's not), just expected the fight to be coming at me from the other side, so I threw that in.
I wonder. Is the fine a tax-deductible business expense for the corporation? My bet it is.
Yeah it might be. Government issued fines are not tax deductible. But this isn't coming from a government source.

I doubt player fines can be tax deductible though.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 07 Jul 2021 08:05
by salmar80
Scott4Pack wrote:
02 Jul 2021 02:20
Is there not yet a TC schedule, as far as practices open to the public? I’m interested. Gonna be in WI the first half of August anyhow. Might as well take a day in GB and Lambeau!

:-)
Training camp schedule just popped up:

Packers Training Camp Schedule

Here are the 13 practices that will be open to fans. The last two are the joint practices against the New York Jets.
Wednesday, July 28: 10:10 a.m.

Thursday, July 29: 10:10 a.m.

Friday, July 30: 10:10 a.m.

Saturday, July 31: 10:10 a.m.

Monday, Aug. 2: 10:10 a.m.

Tuesday, Aug. 3: 10:10 a.m.

Thursday, Aug. 5: 10:10 a.m.

Saturday, Aug. 7: Family Night, 7:30 p.m. at Lambeau Field

Tuesday, Aug. 10: 10:10 a.m.

Wednesday, Aug. 11: 10:10 a.m.

Thursday, Aug. 12: 10:10 a.m.

Saturday, Aug. 14: Preseason vs. Houston, 7 p.m.

Wednesday, Aug. 18: 10:10 a.m. (joint practices with New York Jets)

Thursday, Aug. 19: 10:10 a.m. (joint practices with New York Jets)

Saturday, Aug. 21: Preseason vs. New York Jets, 3:25 p.m.

Following week: Practices are closed to public

Saturday, Aug. 28: Preseason at Buffalo Bills, noon

Key Packers Training Camp Dates


Friday, July 23 – Rookie players report
Friday, July 23 – Packers 1K Kids Run, 6 p.m.
Saturday, July 24 – Packers 5K Run/Walk, Lambeau Field, 8 a.m.
Monday, July 26 – Shareholders meeting, 11 a.m.
Tuesday, July 27 – Veteran players report
Wednesday, July 28 – First practice, 10:10 a.m., Ray Nitschke Field
Saturday, Aug. 7 – Family Night, Lambeau Field
Thursday, Aug. 19 – Last practice open to public, 10:10 a.m., Ray Nitschke Field

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 07 Jul 2021 08:34
by Half Empty
Used to look forward to TC. Haven't for some time as the restrictions mean there's not much point. The cuts have to be made, but it seems as if the first few regular season games are for evaluating the roster. Has anything changed lately to make following TC worthwhile?

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 07 Jul 2021 19:52
by Raptorman
Half Empty wrote:
07 Jul 2021 08:34
Used to look forward to TC. Haven't for some time as the restrictions mean there's not much point. The cuts have to be made, but it seems as if the first few regular season games are for evaluating the roster. Has anything changed lately to make following TC worthwhile?
Used to look forward to game 6 of the preseason, because I knew then the real season would start. Kids these days don't know how easy they have it.

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 07 Jul 2021 21:13
by Cdragon
Raptorman wrote:
07 Jul 2021 19:52
Half Empty wrote:
07 Jul 2021 08:34
Used to look forward to TC. Haven't for some time as the restrictions mean there's not much point. The cuts have to be made, but it seems as if the first few regular season games are for evaluating the roster. Has anything changed lately to make following TC worthwhile?
Used to look forward to game 6 of the preseason, because I knew then the real season would start. Kids these days don't know how easy they have it.
I remember when the Giants went 6-0 in PS their fans were really optimistic, but since they played starters for almost the whole of the PS games they wound up something 2 - 12 when the real shooting started. :P

Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2021

Posted: 07 Jul 2021 21:16
by BSA
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QB spending vs Non-QB spending from Over The Cap
Which teams have expensive QBs ? Which teams are spending to surround them with talent ?

https://overthecap.com/non-qb-nfl-spending/


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"The way I would read this is that teams in the top right quadrant have expensive QBs and are investing a lot in the rest of their roster despite what is being spent on the QB. Those in the bottom right are relying heavily on rookie talent and/or are relying on the QB to push them over the top. The top left are the teams with lower cost QB situations and trying to surround their teams with as much talent as possible. Those in the bottom left have cheap QB rooms but are being more cautious with their spending on the rest of the roster."
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