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Judging by that Christian Kirk contract anyone else wondering if we're better off trading Davante rather than signing him?

British wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:08

Judging by that Christian Kirk contract anyone else wondering if we're better off trading Davante rather than signing him?

Kirk's deal won't have an impact. The gap for Adams and the Packers has been extremely clearly articulated. It's somewhere between Julio Jones' $22 M and DeAndre Hopkins' "$27.5M" annually, and it sounds like there are also length considerations. Kirk's deal is 4 years for $72 with escalators, which is market-breaking for mediocre WRs but doesn't touch the top of the market that is determining Adams' value.

I'm, personally, more concerned that Rodgers is going to hold back his signature on his cap-saving extension until Adams and the Packers reach an agreement to maximize Adams' leverage.

British wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:08

Judging by that Christian Kirk contract anyone else wondering if we're better off trading Davante rather than signing him?

I rather bring back MVS and t'Onion regardless.

Never give Rodgers elite receivers; I will die on this hill.

Labrev wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:27

British wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:08

Judging by that Christian Kirk contract anyone else wondering if we're better off trading Davante rather than signing him?

I rather bring back MVS and t'Onion regardless.

Never give Rodgers elite receivers; I will die on this hill.

Why in the hell have we not been calling him T'Onion this whole time?!

Labrev wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:27

British wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:08

Judging by that Christian Kirk contract anyone else wondering if we're better off trading Davante rather than signing him?

I rather bring back MVS and t'Onion regardless.

Never give Rodgers elite receivers; I will die on this hill.

Rodgers, with elite receivers carried this team, the rest of the team was in shambles, however we went to the PO's every year, then the receivers declined, Rodgers was hurt, and the offense stagnated so bad the HC was fired mid season, this idea that Rodgers wouldn't be better with more then just 1 great receiver is the biggest fallacy spouted on these message boards.

go pak go wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 14:39

D'Vondre Campbell signs a 5 Year $50 Million deal with the Packers.

He is an ideal fit for this defense so this is good news indeed.

Yoop wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 18:01

Labrev wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:27

British wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:08

Judging by that Christian Kirk contract anyone else wondering if we're better off trading Davante rather than signing him?

I rather bring back MVS and t'Onion regardless.

Never give Rodgers elite receivers; I will die on this hill.

Rodgers, with elite receivers carried this team, the rest of the team was in shambles, however we went to the PO's every year, then the receivers declined, Rodgers was hurt, and the offense stagnated so bad the HC was fired mid season, this idea that Rodgers wouldn't be better with more then just 1 great receiver is the biggest fallacy spouted on these message boards.

read the post again

go pak go wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 08:38

I'm just not going to get too involved this offseason.

The Packers made their bed. They can figure out how they want to balance this thing.

Multiple sources now saying that Rodgers' new deal is SIGNED and likely has two real years, along with two "buffer" years. His cap will count for $28M this year.

Is that much like his cap was this past year?

Rodgers contract reportedly saves about $18 mil off this year’s cap. That leaves the Packers with around $3 mil in cap overage remaining if Ken Ingall’s numbers are to be trusted, I believe.

Get an extension worked out for Jaire and a long term deal done on Adams, there should be enough cap space leftover to bring back Rasul. Call it a FA off-season.

APB wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2022 08:05

Rodgers contract reportedly saves about $18 mil off this year’s cap. That leaves the Packers with around $3 mil in cap overage remaining if Ken Ingall’s numbers are to be trusted, I believe.

Get an extension worked out for Jaire and a long term deal done on Adams, there should be enough cap space leftover to bring back Rasul. Call it a FA off-season.

We still have a Cobb paycut coming, too.

go pak go wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 18:21

Yoop wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 18:01

Labrev wrote: ↑

14 Mar 2022 17:27

I rather bring back MVS and t'Onion regardless.

Never give Rodgers elite receivers; I will die on this hill.

Rodgers, with elite receivers carried this team, the rest of the team was in shambles, however we went to the PO's every year, then the receivers declined, Rodgers was hurt, and the offense stagnated so bad the HC was fired mid season, this idea that Rodgers wouldn't be better with more then just 1 great receiver is the biggest fallacy spouted on these message boards.

read the post again

I read it a half doz times prior to posting my response, it makes no sense, when someone says don't give a great QB elite receivers it goes against all logic, Rodgers was at his very best when he had them, and the reason he throws to Adams a 150 times a season is because he's the only quality guy left.

I have no idea who he's referring to with this T Onion dude, MVS is going because he hasn't stayed healthy or warented the pay raise the open market will give him, then his comment that he will stand pat with his opinion prompted my response.

I get a hoot out of all the Rodgers bashing, Packer fans are the most spoiled bunch of critics in the league, constantly defending the FO for not providing a first ballot HOF QB with more then one elite WR for now going on 6 seasons, and now that we may lose him, Lebrev seems cool with that as long as we over pay MVS and bring in some dude named T ONION??????
I don't get it

Given Rodger's new contract. Knowing it is definitely 2 years, possibly 3. Trade Love. Get the most we can out of him this year. It's best for us and for him. Give him a chance to be something somewhere else.

Yes, Rodgers could go down in a second and it would be nice to have Love as a backup. But I think a trade is the right thing.

paco wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2022 08:44

Given Rodger's new contract. Knowing it is definitely 2 years, possibly 3. Trade Love. Get the most we can out of him this year. It's best for us and for him. Give him a chance to be something somewhere else.

Yes, Rodgers could go down in a second and it would be nice to have Love as a backup. But I think a trade is the right thing.

Strong disagree. The best move is to develop him one more year before trading him. You don't sell low. At the very least, he's the backup QB.

Why trade him for a 4th now when you could trade him for a 4th next year, but might improve it to a 2nd if he shows out in preseason and spot duty? He's on a cheap deal. There is absolutely no urgency to rid yourself of the guy.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2022 08:48

paco wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2022 08:44

Given Rodger's new contract. Knowing it is definitely 2 years, possibly 3. Trade Love. Get the most we can out of him this year. It's best for us and for him. Give him a chance to be something somewhere else.

Yes, Rodgers could go down in a second and it would be nice to have Love as a backup. But I think a trade is the right thing.

Strong disagree. The best move is to develop him one more year before trading him. You don't sell low. At the very least, he's the backup QB.

Why trade him for a 4th now when you could trade him for a 4th next year, but might improve it to a 2nd if he shows out in preseason and spot duty? He's on a cheap deal. There is absolutely no urgency to rid yourself of the guy.

Next year, he's more costly to a team. What is he never sees the field this year? Then we trade him next year and a team has him essentially on a 1 year deal with an expensive 1 year option. Less attractive. I also don't know what next year's draft looks like for QB's.

If we are in fact committed to Rodgers for 3 years, Love isn't going to be our next QB. I think we have a better chance of getting a higher pick this year than next. I don't think Love's performance in this pre-season will move the needle that much.

I might be wrong, I usually am. But I agree, keep him if all we can get is a 4th. Just depends on what the offers are.

Sorry, that was a little ramble-y. Trade Love for a 2nd+. Anything less, keep him another year.

SO, can we sign Davante to a new contract (that he likes) AND pickup a new FA WR by tomorrow afternoon?

Just wishfully thinking here. I have no idea how realistic this might not be.

:-)

Scott4Pack wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2022 08:56

SO, can we sign Davante to a new contract (that he likes) AND pickup a new FA WR by tomorrow afternoon?

Just wishfully thinking here. I have no idea how realistic this might not be.

:-)

I think so. Depending on the deal, I think a new contract could save us another $10M or so. Plus other moves, we could pick up somebody.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2022 08:48

paco wrote: ↑

15 Mar 2022 08:44

Given Rodger's new contract. Knowing it is definitely 2 years, possibly 3. Trade Love. Get the most we can out of him this year. It's best for us and for him. Give him a chance to be something somewhere else.

Yes, Rodgers could go down in a second and it would be nice to have Love as a backup. But I think a trade is the right thing.

Strong disagree. The best move is to develop him one more year before trading him. You don't sell low. At the very least, he's the backup QB.

Why trade him for a 4th now when you could trade him for a 4th next year, but might improve it to a 2nd if he shows out in preseason and spot duty? He's on a cheap deal. There is absolutely no urgency to rid yourself of the guy.

I strongly agree with your opinion, I don't get the rush to peddle Love, so obvious that he is physically able to play in this league, yet needs more mental preparedness, we need to keep coaching him up, get him more time in PS games and blowouts, we need a backup no matter what that is better then anything we've seen from Benkert.

I'am really in the camp that the NFL as a whole ruins more QB's then it produces because it rushes them into games there not ready to play in, they do terrible, revert back to poor habits held over from college ball and regress back in coaching, soon to be discarded like dirty laundry to start all over with a new team of coaches.

some players take longer to adapt to the speed and complexity of the pro game, specially QB's, we spent plenty on Love when ya consider what we gave to get him, and just because this is a relatively poor class of QB's in this draft class ( debatable) shouldn't prompt us to bargain basement Love for any less then we paid, I think it's premature to think that Love is at or even near his ceiling based on the small real game sample we've seen, keep him at least another year.