2022 Draft Discussion

[Labrev]

Andy's recent video on Williams totally sold me on him.

But it also makes me doubt that very many teams in the Top-15 or even -10 will pass up on a gamebreaking talent at WR just because he's going to miss a little time early in his rookie year. My bet is we won't even sniff him.

[Yoop]

Andy's recent video on Williams totally sold me on him.

But it also makes me doubt that very many teams in the Top-15 or even -10 will pass up on a gamebreaking talent at WR just because he's going to miss a little time early in his rookie year. My bet is we won't even sniff him.

I wish we'd sticky some topics, I've been looking for 10 minutes to find the Andy Herman vids on the WR's NCF brought, those must have fallen quite a bit on the topic they where brought to, and we do so much listening to Herman the guy should have a sticky of his own.

I said from the beginning that these 5 or 6 top wideouts would go high, they may not meet all the physical requirements people would rather have, but teams will adjust there offense some to accommodate for those discrepancies, for instance, Olave isn't the only one of this bunch that doesn't like to block or have a good grade doing it, none do there a bunch of none blockers, obviously there college teams couldn't care less if these guys showed any willingness to do it, like the NFL teams that will draft these guys, the main priority is simply to throw them the ball and ask others with less talent to do the blocking

[Labrev]

Andy's recent video on Williams totally sold me on him.

But it also makes me doubt that very many teams in the Top-15 or even -10 will pass up on a gamebreaking talent at WR just because he's going to miss a little time early in his rookie year. My bet is we won't even sniff him.

I wish we'd sticky some topics, I've been looking for 10 minutes to find the Andy Herman vids on the WR's NCF brought, those must have fallen quite a bit on the topic they where brought to, and we do so much listening to Herman the guy should have a sticky of his own.

Speaking of his videos, Christian Watson comes across as basically a poor man's Jameson Williams.

Watson can also block competently. He is definitely feeling more and more like the pick at 22.

[APB]

In February of 2020, Wyatt was arrested for a "family violence" incident. Team sources say that their private investigators found out about three additional domestic violence incidents. With that in his background, sources from multiple teams say Wyatt is off their draft board.

3 incidents in 2020, now another verbal altercation last week, who wouldn't want to investigate this player more before spending a first round pick on him, Glad Gute brought him in for a sit down.

Doesn't it strike you as peculiar or convenient that these "unnamed sources" stories about expected high draft pick players always seem to come up this time of year? Especially after you just said this when talking about Jameson Williams:

it's the insane lead up to the draft, all kinds of rumors get spread, mock drafts are beyond idiotic, players that have no way of being taken in certain slots get mocked there, any past legal issues, fights, or problems are brought up to devalue prospects, next week at this time things will be back to normal, happens every year.

[YoHoChecko]

In February of 2020, Wyatt was arrested for a "family violence" incident. Team sources say that their private investigators found out about three additional domestic violence incidents. With that in his background, sources from multiple teams say Wyatt is off their draft board.

3 incidents in 2020, now another verbal altercation last week, who wouldn't want to investigate this player more before spending a first round pick on him, Glad Gute brought him in for a sit down.

Doesn't it strike you as peculiar or convenient that these "unnamed sources" stories about expected high draft pick players always seem to come up this time of year? Especially after you just said this when talking about Jameson Williams:

it's the insane lead up to the draft, all kinds of rumors get spread, mock drafts are beyond idiotic, players that have no way of being taken in certain slots get mocked there, any past legal issues, fights, or problems are brought up to devalue prospects, next week at this time things will be back to normal, happens every year.

The timing of a news break doesn't dispute its credibility by rule, though. Someone may leak very true information for nefarious purposes at just the right time. Doing it before the draft actually hits but after most of the interviews and visits are over is a good way to limit the amount other teams can follow up.

You can't just simply dismiss info just because it was conveniently timed. Like Lael Collins really did smoke pot through a gas mask. That the video leaked the day before the draft didn't make it untrue, just maximally damaging.

[APB]

You can't just simply dismiss info just because it was conveniently timed. Like Lael Collins really did smoke pot through a gas mask. That the video leaked the day before the draft didn't make it untrue, just maximally damaging.

Well sure. But I tend to take actual video of incriminating acts much more serious than simple "unnamed sources" rumors that surface at this time of year.

It's not like domestic violence cases - three of them - get easily swept under the rug. I think that's especially true since his other less damning misdemeanor charges from the other incident were publicly investigated and charged.

[Pckfn23]

[mention]YoHoChecko[/mention] Laremy Tunsil

[BF004]

That must be the HaHa Draft. Had the fold-up table out in the living in Manty.

Yep, packers pick coming up. 3 more.

Packers bout to reach for HaHa.

Yes, my opinion of a reach. As we are not privy to such knowledge to call such a thing a fact.

[Yoop]

In February of 2020, Wyatt was arrested for a "family violence" incident. Team sources say that their private investigators found out about three additional domestic violence incidents. With that in his background, sources from multiple teams say Wyatt is off their draft board.

3 incidents in 2020, now another verbal altercation last week, who wouldn't want to investigate this player more before spending a first round pick on him, Glad Gute brought him in for a sit down.

Doesn't it strike you as peculiar or convenient that these "unnamed sources" stories about expected high draft pick players always seem to come up this time of year? Especially after you just said this when talking about Jameson Williams:

it's the insane lead up to the draft, all kinds of rumors get spread, mock drafts are beyond idiotic, players that have no way of being taken in certain slots get mocked there, any past legal issues, fights, or problems are brought up to devalue prospects, next week at this time things will be back to normal, happens every year.

well no, as I said the name of this game a week or so leading up to the draft is chaos, the more confusion the better, the more players that need investigation, the more complicated the process becomes, Gm's and scouts have to double and triple check grades on players, when someone like Mel KIper does a mock slotting a player with tons of question marks a full round higher, GM's take notice, Not so much because KIper is well known, rather because play grades don't align with workout grades, so the why not question has to be rehashed.

I mean who here doesn't think teams use back door channels to start rumors in order to gain some sort of advantage, periodically we read it happens with agents, or someone connected to a player, are we so gullible to think just because they where caught that team owners must not do it, hell there the worst parasites in the petri dish.

If I can raise enough question marks surrounding Wyatt, the few teams in front of me that wants a DT may decide to pass, and I win, I freaking win nothing new about the SMEAR campaign

[Yoop]

Yep, packers pick coming up. 3 more.

Packers bout to reach for HaHa.

Yes, my opinion of a reach. As we are not privy to such knowledge to call such a thing a fact.

HHCD= BJ Raji, imo, both decided playing 95% ball was good enough, both showed excellent ability nearly instantly, well schooled at the position they played, within 3 years effort decline was apparent, imho it had to do with complacency with there positional tasking, BJ hated two gapping, and Dix, well who knows, I expect he didn't like single high, but I don't remember anyone calling him a reach, he wasn't the only player to quit on Capers those last few years, whatever, two high picks that didn't last.

[Pckfn23]

Hehe, we drafted a LB out of Minnesota in the 2nd round of the 1978 draft by the name of Mike Hunt.

[Foosball]

I’m not a Watson guy. To me, he is a project much like MVS. He is not a great route runner and he drops too many balls. So not much value if the Packers take him in the 1st or 2nd.

Also, the Packers just signed Watkins so there names sound similar which will confuse my wife. Then I’ll have to explain who is who all the time. Thank goodness for the pause button.

I like;
Wilson - won’t be on the board
Olave - won’t be on the board
Burks - may have to trade up
Pickens - should be available

Later in the draft Kevin Austin

I didn’t include Williams because the Packers are in a pickle. They need to win now.

[RingoCStarrQB]

Hehe, we drafted a LB out of Minnesota in the 2nd round of the 1978 draft by the name of Mike Hunt.

[Waldo]

HHCD= BJ Raji, imo, both decided playing 95% ball was good enough, both showed excellent ability nearly instantly, well schooled at the position they played, within 3 years effort decline was apparent, imho it had to do with complacency with there positional tasking, BJ hated two gapping, and Dix, well who knows, I expect he didn't like single high, but I don't remember anyone calling him a reach, he wasn't the only player to quit on Capers those last few years, whatever, two high picks that didn't last.

Big difference between Raji and Haha was Raji was a physical freak that could be the best in the league if he gave it his all, Haha was a borderline athlete that got by with superior instincts.

Some consider a DB unable to run faster than 4.6 undraftable in the first round.

[Realist]

HHCD= BJ Raji, imo, both decided playing 95% ball was good enough, both showed excellent ability nearly instantly, well schooled at the position they played, within 3 years effort decline was apparent, imho it had to do with complacency with there positional tasking, BJ hated two gapping, and Dix, well who knows, I expect he didn't like single high, but I don't remember anyone calling him a reach, he wasn't the only player to quit on Capers those last few years, whatever, two high picks that didn't last.

Big difference between Raji and Haha was Raji was a physical freak that could be the best in the league if he gave it his all, Haha was a borderline athlete that got by with superior instincts.

Some consider a DB unable to run faster than 4.6 undraftable in the first round.

Not sure what the convo is about but Dix can never be associated with the word superior.

[bud fox]

HHCD= BJ Raji, imo, both decided playing 95% ball was good enough, both showed excellent ability nearly instantly, well schooled at the position they played, within 3 years effort decline was apparent, imho it had to do with complacency with there positional tasking, BJ hated two gapping, and Dix, well who knows, I expect he didn't like single high, but I don't remember anyone calling him a reach, he wasn't the only player to quit on Capers those last few years, whatever, two high picks that didn't last.

Big difference between Raji and Haha was Raji was a physical freak that could be the best in the league if he gave it his all, Haha was a borderline athlete that got by with superior instincts.

Some consider a DB unable to run faster than 4.6 undraftable in the first round.

Raji was a freak athlete that also showed it briefly before he got lazy.

Haha was scared of contact from day one but had a cool name and was popular in college.

[Trudge]

Still remember this game...I was there.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thevikinga ... ek-16/amp/

[Pugger]

What should be very interesting about this upcoming draft is we all know some goofy GM or 2 is gonna pick some player from way out of left field so good players will drop farther than what the 'experts' believe.

[BF004]

So I’ve been out of the loop past few days.

Anything at all to report from Drake London’s pro day?

[Yoop]

So I’ve been out of the loop past few days.

Anything at all to report from Drake London’s pro day?

not really, according to this he didn't work out, just validated his physical dimensions, and told everyone he'll be ready to play when the season starts, any questions, watch my game films.

https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft/ ... ns-pro-day

imo like Williams teams will confide with medical opinion and both will be gone top 15, both have gobs of what teams want, wish they would drop. but just dont see that happening, as usual half the league is looking for a WR.