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Re: #4 WR

Posted: 20 May 2023 04:53
by Drj820
Yoop wrote:
18 May 2023 18:15
Drj820 wrote:
18 May 2023 15:41
Toure was in the offense all last year, he’s got a big leg up on any late round rookie. He will be WR4 to start the year and until he blows his shot. I think eventually the 4th spot will be a constant rotation
Wicks was a 5th rounder, some, in fact many say he was a steal for us, based on his junior season some scouts ranked him a top 50 player, so our WR competition should be intense
Everybody is a steal in May

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 20 May 2023 08:05
by APB
Yeah, this is just one play of 112 offensive snaps for Toure in 2022, but I think it's safe to say it wasn't always his fault for not being more involved. Knowing he has rapport with Love will, I think, give him the advantage in filling the #4 WR role, if not more.



Re: #4 WR

Posted: 20 May 2023 11:01
by Labrev
APB wrote:
20 May 2023 08:05
Yeah, this is just one play of 112 offensive snaps for Toure in 2022, but I think it's safe to say it wasn't always his fault for not being more involved.
**snip**
Yeah, hit him in stride and that's 6.

So much for "if he isn't being targeted it's ONLY because he wasn't open argahwhagwhaghwghgaghwg :x :x :evil: !!!!" Derp... :oops:

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 20 May 2023 12:58
by Yoop
Labrev wrote:
20 May 2023 11:01
APB wrote:
20 May 2023 08:05
Yeah, this is just one play of 112 offensive snaps for Toure in 2022, but I think it's safe to say it wasn't always his fault for not being more involved.
**snip**
Yeah, hit him in stride and that's 6.

So much for "if he isn't being targeted it's ONLY because he wasn't open argahwhagwhaghwghgaghwg :x :x :evil: !!!!" Derp... :oops:
the safety was baiting that throw all the way till he broke to cover the boundry, Rodgers could have/ should have thrown to him earlier, so ya can blame him for that, but this is sorta nit picky.

Wicks will start as our #4 I'd put bank on it. if Toure was so great he would have gotten more then 112 snaps and 10 targets, not as though anyone was keeping him off the field.

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 20 May 2023 14:14
by Acrobat
Yoop wrote:
20 May 2023 12:58
Labrev wrote:
20 May 2023 11:01
APB wrote:
20 May 2023 08:05
Yeah, this is just one play of 112 offensive snaps for Toure in 2022, but I think it's safe to say it wasn't always his fault for not being more involved.
**snip**
Yeah, hit him in stride and that's 6.

So much for "if he isn't being targeted it's ONLY because he wasn't open argahwhagwhaghwghgaghwg :x :x :evil: !!!!" Derp... :oops:
the safety was baiting that throw all the way till he broke to cover the boundry, Rodgers could have/ should have thrown to him earlier, so ya can blame him for that, but this is sorta nit picky.

Wicks will start as our #4 I'd put bank on it. if Toure was so great he would have gotten more then 112 snaps and 10 targets, not as though anyone was keeping him off the field.
Toure was 6th on the team in total snap count for WR's and that team had Watkins, Lazard, and Cobb. Of course those guys were going to get a bunch of snaps. The whole snap count argument just doesn't hold any weight or logic.

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 20 May 2023 14:43
by Yoop
Acrobat wrote:
20 May 2023 14:14
Yoop wrote:
20 May 2023 12:58
Labrev wrote:
20 May 2023 11:01


Yeah, hit him in stride and that's 6.

So much for "if he isn't being targeted it's ONLY because he wasn't open argahwhagwhaghwghgaghwg :x :x :evil: !!!!" Derp... :oops:
the safety was baiting that throw all the way till he broke to cover the boundry, Rodgers could have/ should have thrown to him earlier, so ya can blame him for that, but this is sorta nit picky.

Wicks will start as our #4 I'd put bank on it. if Toure was so great he would have gotten more then 112 snaps and 10 targets, not as though anyone was keeping him off the field.
Toure was 6th on the team in total snap count for WR's and that team had Watkins, Lazard, and Cobb. Of course those guys were going to get a bunch of snaps. The whole snap count argument just doesn't hold any weight or logic.
wrong, those receivers lost entire games, 20 entire games lost from the top 5 WR's, you can twist this up any way you want, but Toure should have been able to triple those snaps and triple the targeted throws, he didn't so why everyone is defending him as though he is better then he actually is doesn't even make sense to me.

Wicks in 2021 had over a 1000 yrds receiving, is more polished and will walk away with 4th most receptions this year, thats my guess anyway.

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 20 May 2023 15:32
by Acrobat
Yoop wrote:
20 May 2023 14:43
Acrobat wrote:
20 May 2023 14:14
Yoop wrote:
20 May 2023 12:58


the safety was baiting that throw all the way till he broke to cover the boundry, Rodgers could have/ should have thrown to him earlier, so ya can blame him for that, but this is sorta nit picky.

Wicks will start as our #4 I'd put bank on it. if Toure was so great he would have gotten more then 112 snaps and 10 targets, not as though anyone was keeping him off the field.
Toure was 6th on the team in total snap count for WR's and that team had Watkins, Lazard, and Cobb. Of course those guys were going to get a bunch of snaps. The whole snap count argument just doesn't hold any weight or logic.
wrong, those receivers lost entire games, 20 entire games lost from the top 5 WR's, you can twist this up any way you want, but Toure should have been able to triple those snaps and triple the targeted throws, he didn't so why everyone is defending him as though he is better then he actually is doesn't even make sense to me.

Wicks in 2021 had over a 1000 yrds receiving, is more polished and will walk away with 4th most receptions this year, thats my guess anyway.
How many full games were lost to where more than one of those WR's missed the same game? During those games, how many running plays did we run? How many 3 WR sets? How many 4 WR sets? What were the game plans? How's many TE's were on the field?

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 30 May 2023 10:30
by JordanAlexanderLove
Toure haters still exist? Who knew?

WR room pecking order this season, as it stands at moment:

Watson
Rome
Reed
Toure
Wicks
Dubose

Now, Bo Melton, Jeff Cotton or Jadakis Bonds could be impressive in camp and grab a spot. It's very possible Gute keeps 7 also.

I think the 6 above are pretty safe bets as locked and loaded on the roster. Perhaps Dubose looks like complete garbage and gets axed, but Gute really doesn't want to ax his draft picks and players he feels can help this team in future years.

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 31 May 2023 19:01
by YoHoChecko
Toure specified that he's added 8 pounds or so since the end of last season, but that by the end of the season he was down to 184-185. He says he's around 193 now. So the 8-10 pounds is not up from his previous listed weight.

Not a huge difference between 193 and 200 or so, but we've been parsing the details and talking about that statement and change, so I figured I'd mention what he said about it today.

Re: #4 WR

Posted: 31 May 2023 19:15
by Labrev
YoHoChecko wrote:
31 May 2023 19:01
Toure specified that he's added 8 pounds or so since the end of last season, but that by the end of the season he was down to 184-185. He says he's around 193 now. So the 8-10 pounds is not up from his previous listed weight.

Not a huge difference between 193 and 200 or so, but we've been parsing the details and talking about that statement and change, so I figured I'd mention what he said about it today.
heh.... 'thought he looked the same.