It's 13 personnel for the Falcons and even with Pitts, that's not a personnel grouping that calls for nickel. If we are expecting Savage to make that tackle in what becomes a huge hole due to alignment, that's just not a winning formula.Scott4Pack wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023 12:03I’m not a coach. But I’d like to know what you guys see in this.
What I see is a light box (probably only 6 guys) and Bijan behind the QB. He can probably get to the LOS easily with this scheme. And then it’s easy enough for him to break a tackle and get at least 5 yards a pop. We need another heavy in there, especially if it’s 1st down or even 2nd. Third and long, maybe not. But I still think the Falcons run well enough that we should have at least 3 heavies on virtually every play. Then, keep the 7 or 8 in the box, preferring to stop the run and force Ridder to beat you passing.
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
This is just gross from Campbell. While Justis is pointing out Wooden and Enagbare, Campbell is all kinds of wrong and passive here.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Illegal chop block on Wyatt.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
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I agree. We kept Capers on board to run his signature scheme. It's a great scheme if you have all-pro talent at every single position group. The problem was that come hell or highwater, he was going to run that scheme. And it's a dumpster fire when there is not all-pro at every single position group. I don't blame him, I blame McCarthy.Yoop wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023 10:56lousy talent was the biggest problem during the Capers years, we are running a 2-4/5 now, the problem is the passive zone coverages leave to much space for opposing receivers,Captain_Ben wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023 09:50How does this team end up getting saddled with these pinhead defensive coordinators for years without any accountability? Between Capers with the 2-5 and Barry with his soft zone, it's enough to send a fan to the looney bin.
as to stopping the run, we just need better technique defending it, as Lombardi use to scream " grab, grab grab, all I see is you guys grabbing.
Robinson runs like a big Barry Sanders, we have to do better against guys like him.
this was a total 4th quarter let down, all 3 phases did poorly
IT would be interesting to dig into why this was. My assumption is that we played too soft and Ridder was able to hit the hot/quick route.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
“Most other nations don't allow a terrorist to be their leader.”
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
We've finally gotten to the real issue. Love is great. Dillon is actually the best backup RB in the NFL. OL are all rock stars. Defense has like 15 HOF'ers.
The refs screwed us! (Please tell me everyone can see the sarcasm font I used)
RIP JustJeff
Ya, wasn't blaming the refs, just pointing it out on this play.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
And last but not least, PH dot com choosing AJ Dillon over Bijan Robinson
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“Most other nations don't allow a terrorist to be their leader.”
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
“... Yet so many allow their leaders to be terrorists.”—Magneto
Arthur Smith doesn't strike me as a rah-rah coach, so you're wrong there.APB wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023 07:28You witnessed an example that invalidates your premise just today (yesterday) in Arthur Smith (Falcons HC). Dan Campbell is another one.texas wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023 01:45Can you elaborate on this? I tend to prefer the LaFleur type of HC over the rah-rah type of coach but maybe that's not what you're talking about. But in today's NFL it's definitely the smart nerdy guys, the Xs and Os coaches, that win rather than the tough guy, inspire the troops coaches. Like 100% of the time.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑17 Sep 2023 22:28I thought this when we first hired LaFleur and heard him talk and I’ve said it multiple times here. He doesn’t strike me as someone I would follow into battle. He stutters all over the place when we talks. He talks bigger than he is but isn’t about what he says.
As a member of the military I have seen great leaders speak and seen wannabe leaders try to speak and regurgitate what better leaders have said and that’s what LaFleur reminds me off. He’s a guy who preaches playing hard but coaches a soft team and talks accountability but hires and maintains one of the worst defensive coordinators in the history of the league.
I also think you're waaay over-simplifying things with those two basic classifications of coaching types.
Dan Campbell is definitely one. If he somehow wins a Super Bowl with Detroit, he will be the first in a while.
It's true that a coach can be varying degrees of each (rah-rah or X's & O's), but I don't think that many people would argue that LaFleur/Shanahan/etc are significantly more X/O than rah-rah. Belichick is certainly X/O. Reid is mostly X/O. Siriani idk. McVay is more X/O but he also seems to be a good motivator. If Campbell wins, he will be t exception.
Yeah this forum tends to groupthink a lot of wrong opinions when it comes to football matters.Labrev wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023 15:37
And last but not least, PH dot com choosing AJ Dillon over Bijan Robinson
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But not to worry, I always enlighten everyone with the correct opinion!
Minus the 3rd and 1 play, I thought Dillon was OK yesterday. Not great, not #1 RB quality, but ok. This year is playing out like last year. His eyes are slow. He dances too much. He doesn't power through contact. I hope he can get back on track like last year.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Who wanted Dillon more than Robinson? I don’t see it on that page.Labrev wrote: ↑18 Sep 2023 15:37
And last but not least, PH dot com choosing AJ Dillon over Bijan Robinson
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Everyone?
I saw 2-3 posters question the wisdom of drafting high on a RB, while weighing other roster priorities, and pointing out the two serviceable RB already on our roster thus making RB a low priority draft position.
That's a far cry from "everyone said we're set at RB" or "choosing Dillon over Bijan Robinson" in a vacuum.
ahh this is a no win post, these rafter owls will want to know the name of the Huddle member that agreed with you, and a list of all who disagreed
Me, I new you where just generalizing to sink in your point, that Robinson will imitate Barry Sanders, and anyone that can do that would look nice in G&G. 
What in the name of Jerry Kramer are these guys doing…?
This is what sucked the most about yesterday. Our two best players are Jaire Alexander and Rashan Gary.
I would put these two as close to the primary reason we lost. They were bad.
It is really hard to win when your stars don't perform.
Our game is being replayed on the NFL Network right now.