Kraft Calls for Cultural Revolution

[go pak go]

well someone had to take the rains, people blame Rodgers for everything wrong with the Jets, that team was a mess before he got there

They actually appeared to be a team on the rise before he got there.

Rodgers had 28 TD's this season, the prior two seasons that passing offense produced 26 TD's, Rodgers may be a AH, but he can still play QB pretty well, and he has less control of what went on there than people think.

So we are calling 2 extra TDs a jump from what the slurry of backup quarerbacks did in 2023?

[Acrobat]

Rodgers had 28 TD's this season, the prior two seasons that passing offense produced 26 TD's, Rodgers may be a AH, but he can still play QB pretty well, and he has less control of what went on there than people think.

How was his passer rating? And how many games did the team win?

I don't watch the jets, follow them, or Rodgers, but he is not the reason the jets suck, nor was that team on any rise before he got there, this was a easy find on Google

LOL this is one of those moments where I have to ask you if you truly think about what you say before you say it.

[Yoop]

They actually appeared to be a team on the rise before he got there.

Rodgers had 28 TD's this season, the prior two seasons that passing offense produced 26 TD's, Rodgers may be a AH, but he can still play QB pretty well, and he has less control of what went on there than people think.

So we are calling 2 extra TDs a jump from what the slurry of backup quarerbacks did in 2023?

that's 1 season of Rodgers where he more than doubled the production of passing TD's of the prior two seasons, 2023 and 2022.

[go pak go]

Rodgers had 28 TD's this season, the prior two seasons that passing offense produced 26 TD's, Rodgers may be a AH, but he can still play QB pretty well, and he has less control of what went on there than people think.

So we are calling 2 extra TDs a jump from what the slurry of backup quarerbacks did in 2023?

that's 1 season of Rodgers where he more than doubled the production of passing TD's of the prior two seasons, 2023 and 2022.

Oh gotchya. 26 TDs for two combined seasons compared to 26 TDs the previous two seasons.

[Yoop]

How was his passer rating? And how many games did the team win?

I don't watch the jets, follow them, or Rodgers, but he is not the reason the jets suck, nor was that team on any rise before he got there, this was a easy find on Google

LOL this is one of those moments where I have to ask you if you truly think about what you say before you say it.

laughs on you, why not go look this stuff up before asking such a stupid question.

[Labrev]

It can all be true at the same time that Rodgers had a good season for the Jets, can still deliver solid QB1 play even now, yet he made their team worse.

The problem with Rodgers is not that he is washed, it's that he wants to basically be the de-facto O-Coord. He believes he is entitled to that as a sure-fire HOF QB like Manning and Brady before him. The problem is, Manning and Brady were actually good at it. Rodgers is not. So while he can still produce well statistically, he is not good at putting together a winning gameplan.

Rodgers needs to be placed under a good OC/O-minded HC and play within system. But he no longer wants to have to listen to a superior and be told what to do like a common solider. He wants to call the shots, no matter how much worse things go with him doing so.

Rodgers is the epitome of the saying, it is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.

[Yoop]

So we are calling 2 extra TDs a jump from what the slurry of backup quarerbacks did in 2023?

that's 1 season of Rodgers where he more than doubled the production of passing TD's of the prior two seasons, 2023 and 2022.

Oh gotchya. 26 TDs for two combined seasons compared to 26 TDs the previous two seasons.

I don't enjoy you playing with me, which is what your doing, I also don't like someone trying to steal my pass word, which is what blocked me from signing in today, wtf

[Acrobat]

I don't watch the jets, follow them, or Rodgers, but he is not the reason the jets suck, nor was that team on any rise before he got there, this was a easy find on Google

LOL this is one of those moments where I have to ask you if you truly think about what you say before you say it.

laughs on you, why not go look this stuff up before asking such a stupid question.

Nice comeback.

If Rodgers plays again this year, I look forward to your detailed analysis after not watching any games or following him.

[Yoop]

It can all be true at the same time that Rodgers had a good season for the Jets, can still deliver solid QB1 play even now, yet he made their team worse.

The problem with Rodgers is not that he is washed, it's that he wants to basically be the de-facto O-Coord. He believes he is entitled to that as a sure-fire HOF QB like Manning and Brady before him. The problem is, Manning and Brady were actually good at it. Rodgers is not. So while he can still produce well statistically, he is not good at putting together a winning gameplan.

Rodgers needs to be placed under a good OC/O-minded HC and play within system. But he no longer wants to have to listen to a superior and be told what to do like a common solider. He wants to call the shots, no matter how much worse things go with him doing so.

Rodgers is the epitome of the saying, it is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.

you don't know any of this, we can speculate till the cows come home, I would agree that Rodgers wants a say in running that offense, and that wont change much whoever the coach is, but to sit here and blame him for what had been a mess prior and still is, well that's just a reach to me, he gave advise to hire coaches and players, but he didn't do the hiring and that was when Saleh was still there.

I get it, Rodgers is a jerk, and that's the biggest reason people blame him for everything.

[Yoop]

LOL this is one of those moments where I have to ask you if you truly think about what you say before you say it.

laughs on you, why not go look this stuff up before asking such a stupid question.

Nice comeback.

If Rodgers plays again this year, I look forward to your detailed analysis after not watching any games or following him.

I don't need to watch a thing to know YOU and others will blame him for everything anyway

[Labrev]

It can all be true at the same time that Rodgers had a good season for the Jets, can still deliver solid QB1 play even now, yet he made their team worse.

The problem with Rodgers is not that he is washed, it's that he wants to basically be the de-facto O-Coord. He believes he is entitled to that as a sure-fire HOF QB like Manning and Brady before him. The problem is, Manning and Brady were actually good at it. Rodgers is not. So while he can still produce well statistically, he is not good at putting together a winning gameplan.

Rodgers needs to be placed under a good OC/O-minded HC and play within system. But he no longer wants to have to listen to a superior and be told what to do like a common solider. He wants to call the shots, no matter how much worse things go with him doing so.

Rodgers is the epitome of the saying, it is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.

you don't know any of this, we can speculate till the cows come home, I would agree that Rodgers wants a say in running that offense, and that wont change much whoever the coach is, but to sit here and blame him for what had been a mess prior and still is, well that's just a reach to me, he gave advise to hire coaches and players, but he didn't do the hiring and that was when Saleh was still there.

I get it, Rodgers is a jerk, and that's the biggest reason people blame him for everything.

Yes I do know. You would too if you paid attention rather than writing smut fan-fiction about him.

Rodgers said explicitly in that one year he was pissed (2021) both in his return press conference and on McAfee's show, he felt that as a HOF QB he was entitled to the same level of privileges as was given to other HOF QBs. If we look at how those QBs were treated, it meant they got to basically run the show. Arians admitted that he basically let Brady do the coaching. Manning was also known to be the same with coaches like Caldwell.

[Acrobat]

laughs on you, why not go look this stuff up before asking such a stupid question.

Nice comeback.

If Rodgers plays again this year, I look forward to your detailed analysis after not watching any games or following him.

I don't need to watch a thing to know YOU and others will blame him for everything anyway

Then stay out of the argument if you're not willing to actually gather facts.

[Yoop]

Nice comeback.

If Rodgers plays again this year, I look forward to your detailed analysis after not watching any games or following him.

I don't need to watch a thing to know YOU and others will blame him for everything anyway

Then stay out of the argument if you're not willing to actually gather facts.

Iam the only one who brought facts, your the one peddling opinions here

[Acrobat]

I don't need to watch a thing to know YOU and others will blame him for everything anyway

Then stay out of the argument if you're not willing to actually gather facts.

Iam the only one who brought facts, your the one peddling opinions here

Oh? List them.

[Yoop]

It can all be true at the same time that Rodgers had a good season for the Jets, can still deliver solid QB1 play even now, yet he made their team worse.

The problem with Rodgers is not that he is washed, it's that he wants to basically be the de-facto O-Coord. He believes he is entitled to that as a sure-fire HOF QB like Manning and Brady before him. The problem is, Manning and Brady were actually good at it. Rodgers is not. So while he can still produce well statistically, he is not good at putting together a winning gameplan.

Rodgers needs to be placed under a good OC/O-minded HC and play within system. But he no longer wants to have to listen to a superior and be told what to do like a common solider. He wants to call the shots, no matter how much worse things go with him doing so.

Rodgers is the epitome of the saying, it is better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.

you don't know any of this, we can speculate till the cows come home, I would agree that Rodgers wants a say in running that offense, and that wont change much whoever the coach is, but to sit here and blame him for what had been a mess prior and still is, well that's just a reach to me, he gave advise to hire coaches and players, but he didn't do the hiring and that was when Saleh was still there.

I get it, Rodgers is a jerk, and that's the biggest reason people blame him for everything.

Yes I do know. You would too if you paid attention rather than writing smut fan-fiction about him.

Rodgers said explicitly in that one year he was pissed (2021) both in his return press conference and on McAfee's show, he felt that as a HOF QB he was entitled to the same level of privileges as was given to other HOF QBs. If we look at how those QBs were treated, it meant they got to basically run the show. Arians admitted that he basically let Brady do the coaching. Manning was also known to be the same with coaches like Caldwell.

your telling me that head coaches turned the rains over to there HOF bound QB's, and believe that's what Saleh did with Rodgers , your stretching basically farther than I've ever heard basically stretched before lol, what do you mean by run the show??? all the great QB's have a hand in running the offense, even the not so great, that's why there considered the field generals, Rodgers knows as much about designing pass patterns as WR coaches do, seen every defensive scheme there is, why wouldn't Saleh or any HC want his involvement, it doesn't make sense not to?

as to the players or coaches brought in, others have asked and gotten players to, we hear rumors, who knows, but that's also a sign of the mess that team is in, if true, why did it happen, and who allowed it, Woody?

[Yoop]

Then stay out of the argument if you're not willing to actually gather facts.

Iam the only one who brought facts, your the one peddling opinions here

Oh? List them.

already did, and I'am done with you

[Acrobat]

Iam the only one who brought facts, your the one peddling opinions here

Oh? List them.

already did, and I'am done with you

Please quote your own post with these facts if you listed them already.

[AmishMafia]

Rodgers had 28 TD's this season, the prior two seasons that passing offense produced 26 TD's, Rodgers may be a AH, but he can still play QB pretty well, and he has less control of what went on there than people think.

So we are calling 2 extra TDs a jump from what the slurry of backup quarerbacks did in 2023?

that's 1 season of Rodgers where he more than doubled the production of passing TD's of the prior two seasons, 2023 and 2022.

Rodgers issues don't come from his ability to throw a football. It comes in his ability to lead. Taking off for a vacation during mandatory practices. You have 1/4 of a billion dollars in the bank. Take a vacation anytime you want. Throwing your teammates under the bus in press conferences and you wonder what he says in team meetings. There is a time to criticize, but there is also a time to encourage and build. And you should always put the team first. The difference in talent isn't as great as people think. The difference is usually attitude, and Rodgers has a bad one. Switch Goff with Rodgers and the Lions have a top 10 pick and the Jets are still playing. Both teams have similar talent.

[musclestang]

what? Goff would have 32 interceptions behind that line LOL

The media beats the drum, the people fall in line. Meanwhile you read between lines and the only people unhappy with Rodgers' style or lack of leadership are guys that never amounted to squat. Otherwise you have everyone from Johnny Jolly and Marshawn lynch crediting Rodgers for their careers and Rasul and Doubs and Adams and Jordy and on and on

I've barely heard a word in 20 years from the guys in locker rooms that play with him other than he holds everyone to a high level and if you don't think he holds himself higher than probably anyone, you haven't paid attention to a single second of his career or listened to anyone that has played or coached with him.

I get it, people don't like him, but Goff??? Seriously?

[Papa John]

what? Goff would have 32 interceptions behind that line LOL

The media beats the drum, the people fall in line. Meanwhile you read between lines and the only people unhappy with Rodgers' style or lack of leadership are guys that never amounted to squat. Otherwise you have everyone from Johnny Jolly and Marshawn lynch crediting Rodgers for their careers and Rasul and Doubs and Adams and Jordy and on and on

I've barely heard a word in 20 years from the guys in locker rooms that play with him other than he holds everyone to a high level and if you don't think he holds himself higher than probably anyone, you haven't paid attention to a single second of his career or listened to anyone that has played or coached with him.

I get it, people don't like him, but Goff??? Seriously?

I largely agree with this analysis. In my mind, public perception of Rodgers' legacy is similar to that of Kobe Bryant. Both experienced a fall from grace with mainstream sports media due to off-the-field/court situations. As a result, the poindexter types on ESPN, etc. don't really give them their due. However, if you ask their former teammates and other who played against them, you will hear a different story. I tend to place more value in the opinions of players.