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My favorite is bringing something up and people saying it’s making a mountain out of a mole hill and not worth discussing. Far more fun to praise Rodgers for saving the franchise during the 2010s!!!
One thing that's real hard to see in camp is the running game, which I assume will be a strength. Also the O scheme won't be shown until game 1.go pak go wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022 17:05Add another player to the list who keeps stacking success day after day:
Ladarius Hamilton had another huge day and is positioning himself as a competitor for the #3 Edge rusher. I was concerned about our Edge depth but Hamilton and Tipa have really been making plays.
This defense is absolutely dominating camp so far. Very excited for them. I think however it also comes to say our offense may be slow to start the season.
It's always tough to fully determine what a team will be like in camp, but the tea leaves right now have me believing our defense will be very stout and with an attitude, our offense will be slow to start and our STs will be improved but still having a ways to go.
Yeah I've read some nice things on Hamilton. Tipa, too, but he's basically pass rush only. That's a great role, but he seems to remain a major run D liability. So he has a role, but I'm not sure EDGE3 is within reach, nor anything ourtside of his designated role.go pak go wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022 17:05Add another player to the list who keeps stacking success day after day:
Ladarius Hamilton had another huge day and is positioning himself as a competitor for the #3 Edge rusher. I was concerned about our Edge depth but Hamilton and Tipa have really been making plays.
This defense is absolutely dominating camp so far. Very excited for them. I think however it also comes to say our offense may be slow to start the season.
It's always tough to fully determine what a team will be like in camp, but the tea leaves right now have me believing our defense will be very stout and with an attitude, our offense will be slow to start and our STs will be improved but still having a ways to go.
Yeah here are my expectations of this year's defense.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022 17:53Yeah I've read some nice things on Hamilton. Tipa, too, but he's basically pass rush only. That's a great role, but he seems to remain a major run D liability. So he has a role, but I'm not sure EDGE3 is within reach, nor anything ourtside of his designated role.go pak go wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022 17:05Add another player to the list who keeps stacking success day after day:
Ladarius Hamilton had another huge day and is positioning himself as a competitor for the #3 Edge rusher. I was concerned about our Edge depth but Hamilton and Tipa have really been making plays.
This defense is absolutely dominating camp so far. Very excited for them. I think however it also comes to say our offense may be slow to start the season.
It's always tough to fully determine what a team will be like in camp, but the tea leaves right now have me believing our defense will be very stout and with an attitude, our offense will be slow to start and our STs will be improved but still having a ways to go.
I had forgotten about Hamilton.
My expectations for the defense are sky high like others have said, but I do try to see if there are blind spots that I am missing or ways that my high expectations could go wrong. I want to be mentally aware and emotionally prepared for all the reasonable outcomes and not only the best.
So far, for me, the potential failure points are:
- Gary/Preston get hurt and the depth doesn't step up
- Stokes has a sophomore slump
- Savage fails to take a step up and makes some mental mistakes
That's really about it. I feel great about most aspects of this D.
Glad to be talking about it
If a #3 OLB steps up, I might explode.kyle.mccarroll wrote: ↑08 Aug 2022 16:15I'll change up the subject for Yoho: I'm officially horny for this defense.
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AmishMafia wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022 12:00Here is what I see:
Whenever you have some weaker areas on a defense, the weakest link is the controlling factor. For many years, the weak link was the middle passing game. We with the addition of Quay Walker, we have two ILBs who are very good in coverage. I believe this will go a long way to take away the short passing game.
Our biggest issue last season was stopping the run. Jarran Reed is very stout against the run. I was actually pulling for him when we took Kenny Clark. I was wrong, but Reed has played well. I believe we will have our best DLine since the Reggie years. Stanton seems to have stepped up. Devonte Wyatt is coming in NFL ready. We have some great depth and our starters should be able to be well rested through the games and throughout the season.
Our secondary? They did great last year – and we were missing one of the best CBs in the game.
Our pass rush should be improved. With the DLine pushing the pocket and Gary looking obscenely good, Campbell and Walker adding some interior blitz threat – we should be able to get some more pressure. And the better coverage gives us a little bit more time for the pass rush to get there.
My expectations is for one of the top 3 defenses in the NFL, and the best defense in the AR era. I also think this is our year for the SB.
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑16 Aug 2022 12:19Yes sir! That’s a winners mindset. Tell them bums they stink. Make them call you papi.
We've had plenty of years of people "talking" but not backing it up.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑16 Aug 2022 12:19Yes sir! That’s a winners mindset. Tell them bums they stink. Make them call you papi.
My favorite tweet.
It appears that Quay can play OLB. On 3rd and long it would be interesting to move Gary to DE and Quay to OLB. Clark, Gary and Wyatt as interior pass rushers, Quay and Preston as OLB's and Campbell as the only ILB. 3 CB's and Amos. You might get beat sometimes but the QB would know that he is going to take a hit on every pass attempt.Quay has the build of a speed edge rusher.... But he was not good at at all at pass rushing in college. When blitzing, he didn't seem to have a rush plan and his hand usage was poor, so he tended to get stymied fast. So that part of his game may take some time, like a year or three... Hoping for sooner than better.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022 04:34
Not really, not in the traditional sense. He is playing more of a wide ILB than actual 3-4 OLB. He could be an occasional edge rusher, but mostly he would be there to stop the run and drop into coverage. You play him there for a nickel change up.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022 04:34
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022 09:59Jaire was MAD that the defense, which got nothing but rave reviews, was not dominating enough
Good grief this might be fun.
I do think you are on to something that the defense needed this. I remember back a few years and this was one of the most lifeless units in the NFL. Just everyone standing there with their hands on their hips after every play. Jaire, Z, and Preston really started to reinvigorate the swagger and now it seems like it's contagious throughout the entire unit.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022 13:01Douglas was apparently yelling at Jarvis Landry who used to play for the Browns which was the same game Douglas had two picks in. He told him things don’t change just because you change jerseys.
6/10 for trash talk.
When I was a young stud phenom I talked massive amounts of &%$@. Football, basketball, beer pong, chess, whatever. Football I played corner and every time I lined up across from a receiver I asked him if his daddy knows hes playing with the big boys because his momma found out last night. I still play basketball every weekend even though I'm trash but whoever I'm guarding I'm in their ear the entire time about how sorry they are. When I was a young chess player I used to go to tournaments and snatch peoples pieces and ask them in the most disrespectful tone "What is this Christmas?" I would take their queens and hold it up over my head and act like I licked the bottom and told them I just took their bitch.NCF wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022 14:04I do think you are on to something that the defense needed this. I remember back a few years and this was one of the most lifeless units in the NFL. Just everyone standing there with their hands on their hips after every play. Jaire, Z, and Preston really started to reinvigorate the swagger and now it seems like it's contagious throughout the entire unit.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022 13:01Douglas was apparently yelling at Jarvis Landry who used to play for the Browns which was the same game Douglas had two picks in. He told him things don’t change just because you change jerseys.
6/10 for trash talk.