As a senior Watson led his team with 43 receptions for 801 yards and seven touchdowns. His QB rating when targeted was 142.9.
NDSU is a run first program, hence the low number of receptions.
I read that, sorta changed my opinion of Watson, to move up this far Watson had to be the target once the top 4 or 5 where gone, possibly even a Rodgers guy all along, and since AR called to congrat him I feel Rodgers will give him special attention, WAtson could do very well as a rookie
most of us loved his athletic ability since the combine, the only draw back was small school and 12% drop rate, now it seems that was prior to last year when caught everything thrown his way
I'm remembering a kid who came out of a fairly small program to become a HOF WR. A guy named Jerry Rice.
:-)
Maybe we don't need to worry about the small program issue. We'll see.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 03 May 2022 09:20
by BF004
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
As a senior Watson led his team with 43 receptions for 801 yards and seven touchdowns. His QB rating when targeted was 142.9.
NDSU is a run first program, hence the low number of receptions.
I read that, sorta changed my opinion of Watson, to move up this far Watson had to be the target once the top 4 or 5 where gone, possibly even a Rodgers guy all along, and since AR called to congrat him I feel Rodgers will give him special attention, WAtson could do very well as a rookie
most of us loved his athletic ability since the combine, the only draw back was small school and 12% drop rate, now it seems that was prior to last year when caught everything thrown his way
I'm remembering a kid who came out of a fairly small program to become a HOF WR. A guy named Jerry Rice.
:-)
Maybe we don't need to worry about the small program issue. We'll see.
Donald Driver, Alcorn State, lots of excellent receivers came out of class 2 schools
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 04 May 2022 00:10
by YoHoChecko
I’m ready to relinquish any hedging.
This guy will be a monster. A MONSTER.
He’ll be one of three Packers with at least 750 receiving yards this year.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 04 May 2022 05:31
by Yoop
people don't want to predict how Watson will do, it's better to hold your enthusiasm then be wrong
Watson isn't sitting behind a stacked receiver group, both Lafluer and Rodgers seem over joyed that we got him, the kid is smart, loaded with confidence after years of being the best athlete on the teams he's been on, this guy wont be sitting around for some long term grooming, he'll be starting soon, and he's a big chunk receiver, imo he could go well past the 750 yrd marker, I think Packer fans will love this guy.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
people don't want to predict how Watson will do, it's better to hold your enthusiasm then be wrong
Watson isn't sitting behind a stacked receiver group, both Lafluer and Rodgers seem over joyed that we got him, the kid is smart, loaded with confidence after years of being the best athlete on the teams he's been on, this guy wont be sitting around for some long term grooming, he'll be starting soon, and he's a big chunk receiver, imo he could go well past the 750 yrd marker, I think Packer fans will love this guy.
So where will he take reps? Watkins at WR#1 or Watson? Lazard is such a big part of the running game and WR screens that the Packers love, hard to believe he does not play almost every down somewhere.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
people don't want to predict how Watson will do, it's better to hold your enthusiasm then be wrong
Watson isn't sitting behind a stacked receiver group, both Lafluer and Rodgers seem over joyed that we got him, the kid is smart, loaded with confidence after years of being the best athlete on the teams he's been on, this guy wont be sitting around for some long term grooming, he'll be starting soon, and he's a big chunk receiver, imo he could go well past the 750 yrd marker, I think Packer fans will love this guy.
So where will he take reps? Watkins at WR#1 or Watson? Lazard is such a big part of the running game and WR screens that the Packers love, hard to believe he does not play almost every down somewhere.
Flanker I'd expect, Lazard can only wish he had the ability of WAtson, doesn't matter how well Lazard can block, WAtson is very good at that too, plus the added speed and agility, obviously I'd expect that Lazard to be #2 till WAtson is worthy of more snaps
when ya look at the over all body of work Watson had with NDSU he was a jack of all trades, played option QB, RB, Flanker, Split end and slot, so he has a lot of versatility.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 04 May 2022 08:25
by YoHoChecko
I’m not positive about how year one will shake out; too many random factors. He’ll be good though.
But medium term, he’s Lazard and MVS combined. He is big and physical and blocks, so he can take Lazard snaps. He’s tall and fast and an adept deep threat, so he takes MVS snaps. As a bonus, he’s much better after the catch than either of them.
So let’s break it down:
Athleticism: elite. 99.6th percent of all WRs drafted in the RAS era.
Blocking: one of the best run blockers at his position in this draft. Willing, able, experienced
Character/effort: notably high. Mentioned by coaches. Attacks his deficiencies with extra work. Mixes being That Dude in attitude with the knowledge, maturity, and self awareness to work hard every day
Intelligence: highest wonderlic score of all WRs at the combine
Route running: has all the detailed scouts talking about his hip and ankle flexibility; his surprising fluidity. Despite not being ASKED for nuance at the lower level, he showed up at the Senior Bowl and flashed all the ability in the world at it, was voted by opposing DBs as the hardest cover at the event, and only lacks experience in terms of applying that skill to the NFL.
Hands: hands catcher, not a body catcher. Those who follow him closest say it’s more concentration drops than fighting the ball or unnatural hands. Small sample size of targets led to a couple dropsie streaks holding outsized impact on his numbers. But definitely the thing to watch.
Anyway. Kid is gonna ball out for us. He allows us to threaten deep without sacrificing the run blocking by taking Lazard off the field. He has more YAC and intermediate potential than MVS or Lazard ever had. And his head is wired right for the NFL. Barring injury, I feel more confident in his success than the vast majority of draft picks. I’m learning from Stokes—when you combine elite physical tools with high end effort and coachability, the results follow.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
But medium term, he’s Lazard and MVS combined. He is big and physical and blocks, so he can take Lazard snaps. He’s tall and fast and an adept deep threat, so he takes MVS snaps. As a bonus, he’s much better after the catch than either of them.
This is a perfect summary and so very valuable if you think about what Lazard and MVS contributed to our offense while at the same time extremely limiting how flexible we could be with other personnel.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 04 May 2022 10:01
by YoHoChecko
I will sig bet any doubters that Watson will have a 1300+ yard season on his rookie contract.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 06 May 2022 00:41
by TheSkeptic
Bas again
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
I read that, sorta changed my opinion of Watson, to move up this far Watson had to be the target once the top 4 or 5 where gone, possibly even a Rodgers guy all along, and since AR called to congrat him I feel Rodgers will give him special attention, WAtson could do very well as a rookie
most of us loved his athletic ability since the combine, the only draw back was small school and 12% drop rate, now it seems that was prior to last year when caught everything thrown his way
I'm remembering a kid who came out of a fairly small program to become a HOF WR. A guy named Jerry Rice.
:-)
Maybe we don't need to worry about the small program issue. We'll see.
Donald Driver, Alcorn State, lots of excellent receivers came out of class 2 schools
More fuel for the fire:
Marques Colston
College: Hofstra
Art Powell
College: San Jose State
Don Maynard
College: Texas Western
Henry Ellard
College: Fresno State
Greg Jennings
College: Western Michigan
Shannon Sharpe
College: Savannah State
Donald Driver
College: Alcorn State
Antonio Gates
College: Kent State
Andre Reed
College: Kutztown
Rod Smith
College: Missouri Southern
Torry Holt
College: North Carolina State
Isaac Bruce
College: Memphis
Randy Moss
College: Marshall
Terrell Owens
College: Tennessee-Chattanooga
Jerry Rice
College: Mississippi Valley State
Davante Adams
College: Fresno State
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
I'm remembering a kid who came out of a fairly small program to become a HOF WR. A guy named Jerry Rice.
:-)
Maybe we don't need to worry about the small program issue. We'll see.
Donald Driver, Alcorn State, lots of excellent receivers came out of class 2 schools
More fuel for the fire:
Marques Colston
College: Hofstra
Art Powell
College: San Jose State
Don Maynard
College: Texas Western
Henry Ellard
College: Fresno State
Greg Jennings
College: Western Michigan
Shannon Sharpe
College: Savannah State
Donald Driver
College: Alcorn State
Antonio Gates
College: Kent State
Andre Reed
College: Kutztown
Rod Smith
College: Missouri Southern
Torry Holt
College: North Carolina State
Isaac Bruce
College: Memphis
Randy Moss
College: Marshall
Terrell Owens
College: Tennessee-Chattanooga
Jerry Rice
College: Mississippi Valley State
Davante Adams
College: Fresno State
Surely you guys can see the stars from FCS schools at WR are exceptions to the rule though and not "the rule"
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Be prepared for Ross Uglum Watson dumps over the next few weeks.
Uglum LOVES this guy.
I like Uglum and Watson, but he's a total NDSU Homer
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 06 May 2022 11:21
by BF004
He was the guest on the locked on episode i posted above.
Respect his opinion or not, but he’s personally known the guy and has been covering him and interviewing him since he was a freshman. Unique perspective for sure.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
He was the guest on the locked on episode i posted above.
Respect his opinion or not, but he’s personally known the guy and has been covering him and interviewing him since he was a freshman. Unique perspective for sure.
Honestly, it really seems like the people who know Watson the best--opposing coaches, his own coaches, beat reporters at NDSU--like him the most.
To me that's a great sign.
Also, if you cover NDSU, of course you sound like a homer. They've won like 7 of the past 8 or 9 championships at that level. You're not a homer for raving about the most successful program in the country on their level.
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Honestly, it really seems like the people who know Watson the best--opposing coaches, his own coaches, beat reporters at NDSU--like him the most.
To me that's a great sign.
Nope. Can't wear the green dot.
Too quiet
Re: Round 2 - Pick #53, Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
Posted: 06 May 2022 13:07
by Yoop
to me guys with a high wonderlic and grade point average that fail, do so because they think they know more then the coaches and become stubborn, by the time they accept the fact that they in fact are not as smart, the relationship is soured, Janice, Burks, are two that come to mind, lets hope WAlker isn't of that mold.
