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BSA wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2021 23:14

from Bill Huber

Last season, Valdes-Scantling led the NFL with 20.9 yards per reception, more than 2 yards better than runner-up Nelson Agholor of Las Vegas. The last Packers player to lead the NFL in that category? James Lofton, an Olympic-class long jumper, in 1984.

In fact, Valdes-Scantling’s 20.9-yard average was the best mark in the NFL over the past decade.
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What is the number if they figure in the should-have-been-receptions?

Half Empty wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 08:56

BSA wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2021 23:14

from Bill Huber

Last season, Valdes-Scantling led the NFL with 20.9 yards per reception, more than 2 yards better than runner-up Nelson Agholor of Las Vegas. The last Packers player to lead the NFL in that category? James Lofton, an Olympic-class long jumper, in 1984.

In fact, Valdes-Scantling’s 20.9-yard average was the best mark in the NFL over the past decade.
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What is the number if they figure in the should-have-been-receptions?

Probably, no joke, around 25.

NCF wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 08:57

Half Empty wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 08:56

BSA wrote: ↑

13 Jul 2021 23:14

from Bill Huber

Last season, Valdes-Scantling led the NFL with 20.9 yards per reception, more than 2 yards better than runner-up Nelson Agholor of Las Vegas. The last Packers player to lead the NFL in that category? James Lofton, an Olympic-class long jumper, in 1984.

In fact, Valdes-Scantling’s 20.9-yard average was the best mark in the NFL over the past decade.
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What is the number if they figure in the should-have-been-receptions?

Probably, no joke, around 25.

Finally after 3 years one of the 3 mid round WR makes his presence known, MVS was 33 for 63 targeted throws for 690 yrds and 6 TD's, and 20.9 average, thats barely a 50% catch rate, if he brings that up to plus 60% he'd be worth a big contract, he needs to hit the jugs machine

Yoop wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 09:20

NCF wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 08:57

Half Empty wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 08:56

What is the number if they figure in the should-have-been-receptions?

Probably, no joke, around 25.

Finally after 3 years one of the 3 mid round WR makes his presence known, MVS was 33 for 63 targeted throws for 690 yrds and 6 TD's, and 20.9 average, thats barely a 50% catch rate, if he brings that up to plus 60% he'd be worth a big contract, he needs to hit the jugs machine

Man, even if you look at his game log, there is no hint that his efficiency increased as the season went on. Just random good games and bad games sprinkled in all over. I know he battled injuries in the 2nd half of the season and actually missed two games (which I had forgotten), but sheesh. Good or bad, pick one already, MVS!!

NCF wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 09:31

Man, even if you look at his game log, there is no hint that his efficiency increased as the season went on. Just random good games and bad games sprinkled in all over. I know he battled injuries in the 2nd half of the season and actually missed two games (which I had forgotten), but sheesh. Good or bad, pick one already, MVS!!

MVS is

• a great 5th round pick

• a poor WR2

• a top-notch deep threat

• a low-percentage target

All things are true. He is good and he is bad and he has a very valuable role. He could be replaced by someone who is a better WR2 and a higher-percentage player, but if you get that guy without sacrificing deep threat capabilities, you're actually looking at an elite player and a potential #1, so replacement&improvement cost is high.

I always likened MVS to Corey Bradford but better.

I love him as a #3 WR and if he does put it together, he would be a #1 WR. I don't think his route running will ever get to that level. I do believe his catching could. He has shown he can make sick catches.

Dumping on MVS Can be easy and even appropriate, but as we see often in the rank the roster rankings...what we saw last of the team carries a lot of weight. For instance, guys that had a good NFCCG were elevated in the rankings, guys that stunk it up free falled. MVS was strong in the NFCCG, so I choose to have fond memories of him until shown otherwise. Usually I am generally down on him, but I have updated my mental model to be open minded.

Regardless, he’s a nice 5th round pick.

NCF wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 09:31

Yoop wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 09:20

NCF wrote: ↑

14 Jul 2021 08:57

Probably, no joke, around 25.

Finally after 3 years one of the 3 mid round WR makes his presence known, MVS was 33 for 63 targeted throws for 690 yrds and 6 TD's, and 20.9 average, thats barely a 50% catch rate, if he brings that up to plus 60% he'd be worth a big contract, he needs to hit the jugs machine

Man, even if you look at his game log, there is no hint that his efficiency increased as the season went on. Just random good games and bad games sprinkled in all over. I know he battled injuries in the 2nd half of the season and actually missed two games (which I had forgotten), but sheesh. Good or bad, pick one already, MVS!!

I think he's improved every season, and drops are correctable, I expect another jump from him this year, defenses have to account for him with safety help, ya can't coach speed, and players with it that catch 50% of targets while not great, are still few, hopefully we can resign him at a reasonable rate

I would have one handed it.

We’ve seen catching trick play balls for charity, hooping on the bball court...just need some magic on gameday now

The dude looks FIT

I feel like the charity could have perhaps netted more money if they used a cheaper alternative than renting a helicopter.

I must have missed it. Where does it say they rented the chopper?

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:04

Funchess looks ready to play, it's nice to finally have a WR room where a guy like Funchess is our #4 or #5 WR.

If Funchess is our 4 or 5 WR, then he is a bum

Drj820 wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:16

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:04

Funchess looks ready to play, it's nice to finally have a WR room where a guy like Funchess is our #4 or #5 WR.

If Funchess is our 4 or 5 WR, then he is a bum

Adams, Amari Rodgers, MVS, Lazard, Funchess, thats the order I have the WR group now.

If he isn't our #3 then you think he's a bum, lol, we'll see.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:16

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:04

Funchess looks ready to play, it's nice to finally have a WR room where a guy like Funchess is our #4 or #5 WR.

If Funchess is our 4 or 5 WR, then he is a bum

I think Adams and MVS and the #1 and #2 but I think as for the rest they will all have specific roles and packages where they swap in and out. I think Rodgers, Lazard, and Funchess will all have very niche roles to play to each of their strengths.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:57

Drj820 wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:16

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:04

Funchess looks ready to play, it's nice to finally have a WR room where a guy like Funchess is our #4 or #5 WR.

If Funchess is our 4 or 5 WR, then he is a bum

I think Adams and MVS and the #1 and #2 but I think as for the rest they will all have specific roles and packages where they swap in and out. I think Rodgers, Lazard, and Funchess will all have very niche roles to play to each of their strengths.

I would be very happy if it plays out like this. Would just prefer a roster spot isn’t waisted on EQ at this point.

11.1 percent
Valdes-Scantling did set career-highs in receiving yards in 2020 with 690 yards and six receiving touchdowns. His 33 receptions was second to his rookie campaign. The bad news is he also had seven drops in just 63 targets–a 11.1 percent drop rate.May 14, 2021

and now, the new kid on the block.

He dropped 6.1 percent of catchable passes in 2020 and 5.7 percent for his career, numbers that are right about on average. “The main things that are my strengths [are] my hands, my route running, just the ability to make plays after I get the ball in my hands,” Amari Rodgers said.May 4, 2021

It's possible MVS will have more receiving yards, but I doubt he'll have more catches, Amari already does most things better then MVS, cept run go routes.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:16

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2021 13:04

Funchess looks ready to play, it's nice to finally have a WR room where a guy like Funchess is our #4 or #5 WR.

If Funchess is our 4 or 5 WR, then he is a bum

If he led the league in drop % he is a bum. He did and he is.