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It’s the same in any career. No matter what the job is people are going to demand what is industry standard. Yoho is living in a fantasy world.Yoop wrote: ↑23 May 2022 15:10the Dollar amount of player contracts, specially top tier players, signals player value across the league to peers at that position, it's all about status quo, sure they'd like to play in 60 degree weather, maybe a dome, but thats secondary to status and recognition.
about the same in any career, money talks.
Your issue is the continued insistence that the scenario of a top-notch QB compares to literally any other situation or career.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 May 2022 15:15It’s the same in any career. No matter what the job is people are going to demand what is industry standard. Yoho is living in a fantasy world.
I dare someone to find a grammatical error in one of yoho's posts. They are so long its hard to get thru them without napping but damn this guy is well educated.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑23 May 2022 17:26Your issue is the continued insistence that the scenario of a top-notch QB compares to literally any other situation or career.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 May 2022 15:15It’s the same in any career. No matter what the job is people are going to demand what is industry standard. Yoho is living in a fantasy world.
You also have no comprehension of my repeated ambivalence to the choices Rodgers makes in this regard. I'm telling you: I am a happy fan. I am not someone constantly trying to figure out what's going wrong. I think things are going great. I am overjoyed to be a fan of this organization and have enjoyed the winning eras brought to us by Favre and Rodgers "despite" the "lack" of championships. Some would say I've settled for mediocrity, but we aren't mediocre. We're an elite franchise with a ton of pride and history and experiences and games and competitions worth celebrating year after year. I would LOVE to have more Super Bowl seasons in my fandom. It would be great. But I am not bitter or angry that we don't. I am not living ina fantasy. I am analyszing choices.
The only point I'm making is that Rodgers has a clear choice. The evidence is fairly clear (any Super Bowl sample size will be too small to matter conclusively, especially limiting it to a specific era of football). I'm just putting it out there, for all those people trying to figure out why Rodgers doesn't have more rings: the answer is that it's because Rodgers has been playing on an elite-level contract since 2013 and it is abundantly clear that having a QB that is paid elite money dramatically decreases your chances to win a Super Bowl.
Rodgers can choose to emulate Brady or to earn top dollar. He can't choose both. That's the only point I'm making. I'm not bitter about it. I'm not saying anyone should or shouldn't do anything. It's just an objective analysis of football right now. I could dig deep into it and look at all the Super Bowl winners and the percentages of the cap the position accounted for the winning year and a year before, two years before, etc (because having a lag would impact the ability to build the team around them, while after-the-win would have no impact on the ability to win the previous year). But I'm too lazy to do that because the answers are pretty obvious.
Mahomes on a rookie deal. Wilson on a rookie deal. Tom Brady on discounted deal. Tom Brady on a discounted deal. Tom Brady on a discounted deal. Tom Brady on a discounted deal. Stafford at $20M cap charge after a trade reduced his impact. Nick Foles and Carson Wentz on bac-up/rookie deals. Peyton Manning on an old-timer's deal.
That's who wins. Nick Foles and Carson Wentz are the only surefire non- hall of famers. Stafford is the only marginal case. Manning is the only one whose contract could arguably have been considered high, but it was still easily below the top notch.
What's the debate? Top QBs. Middle prices. That's the ticket.
Yoho knows that Brady is about the only top tier QB thats taken less so the team could buy some talent, ya need some past success to stimulate that type of incentive, we'll never know now had we repeated in 2011 if Rodgers wouldn't have done the same as Brady, success builds confidence and the desire to repeat it, and that loss to the Giants in 2011 was a really rough one on Rodgerslupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 May 2022 15:15It’s the same in any career. No matter what the job is people are going to demand what is industry standard. Yoho is living in a fantasy world.Yoop wrote: ↑23 May 2022 15:10the Dollar amount of player contracts, specially top tier players, signals player value across the league to peers at that position, it's all about status quo, sure they'd like to play in 60 degree weather, maybe a dome, but thats secondary to status and recognition.
about the same in any career, money talks.
Ohhh NO
Stafford just won a Súper bowl averaging 27m per year. Rodgers just demanded 50m per.Yoop wrote: ↑23 May 2022 20:39Yoho knows that Brady is about the only top tier QB thats taken less so the team could buy some talent, ya need some past success to stimulate that type of incentive, we'll never know now had we repeated in 2011 if Rodgers wouldn't have done the same as Brady, success builds confidence and the desire to repeat it, and that loss to the Giants in 2011 was a really rough one on Rodgerslupedafiasco wrote: ↑23 May 2022 15:15It’s the same in any career. No matter what the job is people are going to demand what is industry standard. Yoho is living in a fantasy world.Yoop wrote: ↑23 May 2022 15:10the Dollar amount of player contracts, specially top tier players, signals player value across the league to peers at that position, it's all about status quo, sure they'd like to play in 60 degree weather, maybe a dome, but thats secondary to status and recognition.
about the same in any career, money talks.
Yohos post are great but his mood, and aggressiveness is directly related to his weed supply. We need to find him a more consistent plug.Yoop wrote: ↑23 May 2022 20:43Ohhh NO
Hey I love to read your post Yoho, the longer the better, if ya write a book, please auto my copy
jk yohoAlso, because Stafford was a trade acquisition, he cost the team he won with less than the average of his contract. He counted $20 million against the cap this year and int he prior years, the Rams were building a team around a Jared Goff-sized contract, not an elite contract. So the acquiring team actually had even more non-QB money to burn than the team who signed him to that contract. Stafford has an extension now, and it's pretty good but not elite-elite Let's see how the Rams fare moving forward.
Yeah but we All know if rodgers had been traded to the Rams he would have demanded a new restructured deal day one in the building. Nice of Stafford to play out his old deal and then make a deal for a new one.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑23 May 2022 22:36Also, because Stafford was a trade acquisition, he cost the team he won with less than the average of his contract. He counted $20 million against the cap this year and int he prior years, the Rams were building a team around a Jared Goff-sized contract, not an elite contract. So the acquiring team actually had even more non-QB money to burn than the team who signed him to that contract. Stafford has an extension now, and it's pretty good but not elite-elite Let's see how the Rams fare moving forward.
In an announcement Wednesday, a player designated for return from injured reserve must miss a minimum of four games.
Additional changes to the I.R. rule allow a team to designate for return up to eight players over the course of the season, and the same player can be activated two separate times, though that would count twice to the team's total of eight. Last season, a designated-for-return I.R. player only had to miss a minimum of three contests. On top of the changes for injured reserve, practice squad rosters were voted to stay at 16, and up to six veterans are still eligible to join each practice squad.
APB wrote: ↑26 May 2022 05:53Looks like the league and players have come to some sort of compromise:
In an announcement Wednesday, a player designated for return from injured reserve must miss a minimum of four games.
Additional changes to the I.R. rule allow a team to designate for return up to eight players over the course of the season, and the same player can be activated two separate times, though that would count twice to the team's total of eight. Last season, a designated-for-return I.R. player only had to miss a minimum of three contests. On top of the changes for injured reserve, practice squad rosters were voted to stay at 16, and up to six veterans are still eligible to join each practice squad.
Holy crap.APB wrote: ↑26 May 2022 05:53
Looks like the league and players have come to some sort of compromise:
In an announcement Wednesday, a player designated for return from injured reserve must miss a minimum of four games.
Additional changes to the I.R. rule allow a team to designate for return up to eight players over the course of the season, and the same player can be activated two separate times, though that would count twice to the team's total of eight. Last season, a designated-for-return I.R. player only had to miss a minimum of three contests. On top of the changes for injured reserve, practice squad rosters were voted to stay at 16, and up to six veterans are still eligible to join each practice squad.
And honestly great for him. It won't be in a Packers uniform though.salmar80 wrote: ↑28 May 2022 05:15TE David Njoku gets a 4-year $56.75 million contract to replace the franchise tag he was on. Per PFT, the deal includes $28 million in guaranteed money.
Sounds like a lot to me for a guy averaging 27 yds/game, and 3 tds/season during his career...
If Big Bob has a season resembling 2020, he'll be hella expensive to keep.
