Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 08:42
Alright, so then winning is more important to him now than it was over the last several years.
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Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 09:07
If AR had marched into Gutey's office and said: I will take a pay cut ON THE CONDITION that ALL of the cap savings go towards the O. I will ONLY give you this discount IF you use it for weapons for me.Yoop wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 08:19FFS, Rodgers took a pay cut because the Jets are interested in acquiring Cooks and other offensive players, and he wouldn't with us because all we cared about was bringing in defensive players, thats our history, Rodgers renegotiated his contract several times, what did the FO do, resigned a defensive player or two, duhh
the amount of money a player makes translates to there standing in the league, Aaron Donald is the best and his contract says so, is he taking a pay cut? hell no.
we watch and see what players actually play for, recognition, we watch them jump for glee the most when they or a team mate make a great play, a play that only a very few are capable of, imho that turns them on like no amount of money could ever hope to, that is what I love about this game.
Now. Why would Gutey have said no to that!? It would've been free money! It would've simply been more talent for the O.
I don't think AR ever offered a discount for GB. He milked every dime after GB got his first years on the cheap. That, I'm fine with.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 09:29
please supply the names of players that you've heard of that have ever done that? and how do you know that Rodgers never did?salmar80 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 09:07If AR had marched into Gutey's office and said: I will take a pay cut ON THE CONDITION that ALL of the cap savings go towards the O. I will ONLY give you this discount IF you use it for weapons for me.Yoop wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 08:19FFS, Rodgers took a pay cut because the Jets are interested in acquiring Cooks and other offensive players, and he wouldn't with us because all we cared about was bringing in defensive players, thats our history, Rodgers renegotiated his contract several times, what did the FO do, resigned a defensive player or two, duhh
the amount of money a player makes translates to there standing in the league, Aaron Donald is the best and his contract says so, is he taking a pay cut? hell no.
we watch and see what players actually play for, recognition, we watch them jump for glee the most when they or a team mate make a great play, a play that only a very few are capable of, imho that turns them on like no amount of money could ever hope to, that is what I love about this game.
Now. Why would Gutey have said no to that!? It would've been free money! It would've simply been more talent for the O.
I don't think AR ever offered a discount for GB. He milked every dime after GB got his first years on the cheap. That, I'm fine with.
again 2 or 3 times Rodgers has diverted money to the future in order to HELP this team, in return he got a never ending cycle of very raw WR recruits.
your right Rodgers after getting pacifier money from Murphy to stay in FEb or March of 2018 was disappointed when Gutekunst idea of fixing the WR position was to bring in 3 mid round raw receivers, if Rodgers didn't dislike Guty prior that surely didn't warm his heart, 2017 made beyond obvious that we lacked the receiver talent to make McCarthy's passing schemes work, Guty dropped the ball in that draft, and now everyone is defending that. and just blaming Rodgers.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 09:48
Brady took a reduced value contract repeatedly through his career. Nobody talks about how few championships the Pats won when they had him.
I'm never going to fault a player for getting all they can, but if winning is truly the most important thing, it can't be all about the money as well.
I'm never going to fault a player for getting all they can, but if winning is truly the most important thing, it can't be all about the money as well.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 09:51
Aaron Jones
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 10:06
and the team actually brought in offensive help when he took the pay cuts, thats how this stuff is suppose to work.Madcity_matt wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 09:48Brady took a reduced value contract repeatedly through his career. Nobody talks about how few championships the Pats won when they had him.
I'm never going to fault a player for getting all they can, but if winning is truly the most important thing, it can't be all about the money as well.
lack of money didn't stop us from adding a ready to play receiver over the years, that is such a lame excuse, Stevie Wonder could see where we used most resources
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 10:09
Plenty of examples over the years of adding FA offensive talent.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 10:11
Aaron Jones What? you throw this name out as though he walked into the office and said I want a pay cut so you can bring in a player, and that is hardly accurate since he pushed the money just as Rodgers did towards a future settlement, least thats how I remember it
people dissing Rodgers for not doing a Brady thing don't want to deal with the fact that the Patriots actually did reward Brady for doing it.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 10:13
Aaron Jones actually took a pay cut to stay on the Packers.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 10:26
Brady took a cut with the Bucs to bring in both Gronk and AB. It’s been done.
In many ways, Mahommes is doing it right now. So is grossly underpaid Travis Kelce.
In many ways, Mahommes is doing it right now. So is grossly underpaid Travis Kelce.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 10:28
little different then walking into the GM's office and saying I'll take a pay cut if you bring in such and such.
a pay cut to remain on the team, or deferring contract money to the future helps the team, but it's not the same as a pay cut to bring in specific talent.
Rodgers took a pay cut, and the Jets announced that there bringing in Cooks for a try out.
same as Brady did to bring in several different receivers over the years.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 12:04
<Conspiracy mode>
I think they had to give Rodgers the 2018 extension because he practically revolted when he heard they wanted to make Russ Ball the GM.
https://totalpackers.com/2018/01/aaron- ... ball-camp/
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... g-m-in-g-b
Ironically, Rodgers actions lead to Gutey being named the GM, whom he ended up disliking anyway.
<end conspiracy mode>
I think they had to give Rodgers the 2018 extension because he practically revolted when he heard they wanted to make Russ Ball the GM.
https://totalpackers.com/2018/01/aaron- ... ball-camp/
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... g-m-in-g-b
Ironically, Rodgers actions lead to Gutey being named the GM, whom he ended up disliking anyway.
<end conspiracy mode>
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 12:20
Russ Ball wasn't qualified to be a GM, I read both articles years ago, basically he's just a contract guy, almost zero scouting ability, so where's his eye for talent come from? sitting next to Teddy T. doesn't make him Teddy T.Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 12:04<Conspiracy mode>
I think they had to give Rodgers the 2018 extension because he practically revolted when he heard they wanted to make Russ Ball the GM.
https://totalpackers.com/2018/01/aaron- ... ball-camp/
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... g-m-in-g-b
Ironically, Rodgers actions lead to Gutey being named the GM, whom he ended up disliking anyway.
<end conspiracy mode>
I remember other articles that said Rodgers preferred GM was Highsmith or Eliot Wolf, I never read that he didn't like Gutekunst until after the 2018 draft.
your right in that all that stuff is second hand rumor, who knows unless a insider gives us legit info.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 13:07
And there is no evidence what so ever that Rodgers did walk into the GMs office and asked for that, or did and was denied, or even entertained the notion of a pay cut.Yoop wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 10:28little different then walking into the GM's office and saying I'll take a pay cut if you bring in such and such.
a pay cut to remain on the team, or deferring contract money to the future helps the team, but it's not the same as a pay cut to bring in specific talent.
Rodgers took a pay cut, and the Jets announced that there bringing in Cooks for a try out.
same as Brady did to bring in several different receivers over the years.
That facts are as [mention]YoHoChecko[/mention] outlined.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 13:16
What are we even talking about here?
Is there another push that the Jets are doing right by Rodgers so Rodgers took a pay cut because he believes the Jets are giving him a squad superior to what he had in GB?
The Jets are literally modeling their offense to the 2020 and 2021 Packers offense for the exception that the Jets have a worse #1 WR and an even older Randall Cobb.
The Jets are getting praised on this thread for going after Dalvin Cook when knowing BG would get slammed for this move because it's the "wrong position". Breece Hall is expected back early in the season. Double dipping at RB would get slammed here. How do I know that?...because I read our forum boards after Round 2 in the 2020 NFL Draft.
Is there another push that the Jets are doing right by Rodgers so Rodgers took a pay cut because he believes the Jets are giving him a squad superior to what he had in GB?
The Jets are literally modeling their offense to the 2020 and 2021 Packers offense for the exception that the Jets have a worse #1 WR and an even older Randall Cobb.
The Jets are getting praised on this thread for going after Dalvin Cook when knowing BG would get slammed for this move because it's the "wrong position". Breece Hall is expected back early in the season. Double dipping at RB would get slammed here. How do I know that?...because I read our forum boards after Round 2 in the 2020 NFL Draft.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 13:37
So why do you think rodgers squeezed the packers for every Penny he could and then landed in New York and took one of the largest paycuts in league history?go pak go wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 13:16What are we even talking about here?
Is there another push that the Jets are doing right by Rodgers so Rodgers took a pay cut because he believes the Jets are giving him a squad superior to what he had in GB?
The Jets are literally modeling their offense to the 2020 and 2021 Packers offense for the exception that the Jets have a worse #1 WR and an even older Randall Cobb.
The Jets are getting praised on this thread for going after Dalvin Cook when knowing BG would get slammed for this move because it's the "wrong position". Breece Hall is expected back early in the season. Double dipping at RB would get slammed here. How do I know that?...because I read our forum boards after Round 2 in the 2020 NFL Draft.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 13:38
those are not facts per se, they are Yoho's opinions of what he thinks.Pckfn23 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 13:07And there is no evidence what so ever that Rodgers did walk into the GMs office and asked for that, or did and was denied, or even entertained the notion of a pay cut.Yoop wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 10:28little different then walking into the GM's office and saying I'll take a pay cut if you bring in such and such.
a pay cut to remain on the team, or deferring contract money to the future helps the team, but it's not the same as a pay cut to bring in specific talent.
Rodgers took a pay cut, and the Jets announced that there bringing in Cooks for a try out.
same as Brady did to bring in several different receivers over the years.
That facts are as @YoHoChecko outlined.
people act like Brady was some sort of Saint and Rodgers was a descendent of Satan
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 13:48
Not offensive talent. We brought in offensive players. There’s a difference. Jimmy Graham got paid and was &%$@. Billy Turner got paid significantly more than he should have, as referenced by the contracts he received after GB, and he was &%$@. Sammy Watkins was brought in and was &%$@.
Let’s go back even further to the TT days. Marcellus Bennett. Cedric Benson way past his prime. Jeff Saturday.
I can honestly say the only good FA I can think of that we brought here on offense in the Rodgers era was Jared Cook for a single season.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 13:51
Aaron Jones= Dalvin Cooks, they want that type versatility, plus they have Garrett and Hardeman and just maybe they will use Cooks more then we've used Jones as a receivergo pak go wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 13:16What are we even talking about here?
Is there another push that the Jets are doing right by Rodgers so Rodgers took a pay cut because he believes the Jets are giving him a squad superior to what he had in GB?
The Jets are literally modeling their offense to the 2020 and 2021 Packers offense for the exception that the Jets have a worse #1 WR and an even older Randall Cobb.
The Jets are getting praised on this thread for going after Dalvin Cook when knowing BG would get slammed for this move because it's the "wrong position". Breece Hall is expected back early in the season. Double dipping at RB would get slammed here. How do I know that?...because I read our forum boards after Round 2 in the 2020 NFL Draft.
Re: Cheese Curds - News Around The League 2023
Posted: 29 Jul 2023 13:54
never will understand dropping Cooks to go after a very controversial Bennett.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑29 Jul 2023 13:48Not offensive talent. We brought in offensive players. There’s a difference. Jimmy Graham got paid and was &%$@. Billy Turner got paid significantly more than he should have, as referenced by the contracts he received after GB, and he was &%$@. Sammy Watkins was brought in and was &%$@.
Let’s go back even further to the TT days. Marcellus Bennett. Cedric Benson way past his prime. Jeff Saturday.
I can honestly say the only good FA I can think of that we brought here on offense in the Rodgers era was Jared Cook for a single season.