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I can't' get behind that at all. The slot CB and safety didn't make the plays. Sul wouldn't have been in those spots.Drj820 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:54Gute gotta go to bed knowing that we win this game with rasul on the roster
You are absolutely right.Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:54You can’t play the “it’s supposed to happen tomorrow, not today” game in the NFL. You never know when you’ll have this opportunity again. Nobody had any film on this team. Next year they will. The task is only going to get harder. The opportunity was right here and we didn’t take advantage.
All in hindsight too. We were all mad weeks ago, but from a football standpoint it completely made sense. Love looked as close as "not the guy" as he looks "the guy" now.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:57I can't' get behind that at all. The slot CB and safety didn't make the plays. Sul wouldn't have been in those spots.
The only thing the GM/coach could have considered was bringing in Mason.
Post more! I love your takes!TheGreenMan wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 23:59All in hindsight too. We were all mad weeks ago, but from a football standpoint it completely made sense. Love looked as close as "not the guy" as he looks "the guy" now.
Agreed! Your visits are way too infrequent, [mention]TheGreenMan[/mention]!Pckfn23 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 00:02Post more! I love your takes!TheGreenMan wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 23:59All in hindsight too. We were all mad weeks ago, but from a football standpoint it completely made sense. Love looked as close as "not the guy" as he looks "the guy" now.
I know, I know.APB wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 00:11Agreed! Your visits are way too infrequent, @TheGreenMan!Pckfn23 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 00:02Post more! I love your takes!TheGreenMan wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 23:59
All in hindsight too. We were all mad weeks ago, but from a football standpoint it completely made sense. Love looked as close as "not the guy" as he looks "the guy" now.
Yeah, I have previously bought into the notion that MLF has little brother syndrome against Shannahan, but this is not on him AT ALL. The one thing I could say is that he should have called a timeout before the 3rd and 1 TD by CMC but even that I see both sides.
never understood the mind set that unless that certain departed player makes a play another didn't his presence wouldn't have mattered, that diminishes the reality that said player had leadership ability and had been a inspiration to other players in the past, just possibly Rasul would/could have done that and had Nixon, Savage, others playing looser, when your wound up tight mistakes happen.go pak go wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:57I can't' get behind that at all. The slot CB and safety didn't make the plays. Sul wouldn't have been in those spots.
The only thing the GM/coach could have considered was bringing in Mason.
So Savage would have made the pick had Sul stayed because of inspiration?Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 06:45never understood the mind set that unless that certain departed player makes a play another didn't his presence wouldn't have mattered, that diminishes the reality that said player had leadership ability and had been a inspiration to other players in the past, just possibly Rasul would/could have done that and had Nixon, Savage, others playing looser, when your wound up tight mistakes happen.
my issue was pass rush, when we got to Purdy, good things happened, when we didn't, he beat us.
how do you know he wouldn't? I think thats the question, your so concerned with being lock step with everything Gutekunst does that you will over look anything he doesn't do, same with coaches, your so quick to discount the reality that just one player, any player can and often do inspire better play in others.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 09:36So Savage would have made the pick had Sul stayed because of inspiration?Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 06:45never understood the mind set that unless that certain departed player makes a play another didn't his presence wouldn't have mattered, that diminishes the reality that said player had leadership ability and had been a inspiration to other players in the past, just possibly Rasul would/could have done that and had Nixon, Savage, others playing looser, when your wound up tight mistakes happen.
my issue was pass rush, when we got to Purdy, good things happened, when we didn't, he beat us.
I gotta hand it to ya.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 09:44how do you know he wouldn't? I think thats the question, your so concerned with being lock step with everything Gutekunst does that you will over look anything he doesn't do, same with coaches, your so quick to discount the reality that just one player, any player can and often do inspire better play in others.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 09:36So Savage would have made the pick had Sul stayed because of inspiration?Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 06:45
never understood the mind set that unless that certain departed player makes a play another didn't his presence wouldn't have mattered, that diminishes the reality that said player had leadership ability and had been a inspiration to other players in the past, just possibly Rasul would/could have done that and had Nixon, Savage, others playing looser, when your wound up tight mistakes happen.
my issue was pass rush, when we got to Purdy, good things happened, when we didn't, he beat us.
your the guy who wants to discount that chemistry, I'am the guy who knows it exist, players inspire one another, it helps them relieve tension, if you don't think those drops had to do with Savage and Nixon being wound tighter then a banjo string your kidding yourself.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 09:49I gotta hand it to ya.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 09:44how do you know he wouldn't? I think thats the question, your so concerned with being lock step with everything Gutekunst does that you will over look anything he doesn't do, same with coaches, your so quick to discount the reality that just one player, any player can and often do inspire better play in others.
I never considered "inspiration" on converting a dropped INT as connection to point out a GM's failure but once again your creativity to roll it to the top didn't fail to come out.
That's a new one yoop.
24 hours ago this team was loaded with chemistry. We all reacted how they loved each other in the locker room. But now you are trying to lay claim Savage and Nixon dropped balls because of lack of chemistry? good grief.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 10:01your the guy who wants to discount that chemistry, I'am the guy who knows it exist, players inspire one another, it helps them relieve tension, if you don't think those drops had to do with Savage and Nixon being wound tighter then a banjo string your kidding yourself.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 09:49I gotta hand it to ya.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 09:44
how do you know he wouldn't? I think thats the question, your so concerned with being lock step with everything Gutekunst does that you will over look anything he doesn't do, same with coaches, your so quick to discount the reality that just one player, any player can and often do inspire better play in others.
I never considered "inspiration" on converting a dropped INT as connection to point out a GM's failure but once again your creativity to roll it to the top didn't fail to come out.
That's a new one yoop.
would Rasul absolutely made that difference? no one can say, but it's common knowledge he motivated others, and was a excellent team mate others appreciated.
ya want to know a reason vets make mistakes? there trying to hard, and often the reason for that, is that others are unable to try hard enough, basically they know if they don't do a thing no one else will either, sorta like Adams dropping a TD pass, or the 2 dropped pics last night.
unless you don't believe the house money concept, tension is a killer for a player, so if another player can help relieve some of that, geesus I can't believe I have to explain any of this stuff to you, come on
again you resort to contorting comments because thats the only come back you got, 24 hours ago both teams started the game tight, just as many games like this, what settles them down is each other and the coaches, Rasul Douglas was a big help with that in the past, hell every player voiced as much when he left, and locker room chemistry, love for one another is a different thing and you know it, well, actually it seems you don't, and I think it's because winning this argument is more important then just admitting that players are in each others ear the whole game, &%$@ happens for reasons.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 11:4624 hours ago this team was loaded with chemistry. We all reacted how they loved each other in the locker room. But now you are trying to lay claim Savage and Nixon dropped balls because of lack of chemistry? good grief.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 10:01your the guy who wants to discount that chemistry, I'am the guy who knows it exist, players inspire one another, it helps them relieve tension, if you don't think those drops had to do with Savage and Nixon being wound tighter then a banjo string your kidding yourself.
would Rasul absolutely made that difference? no one can say, but it's common knowledge he motivated others, and was a excellent team mate others appreciated.
ya want to know a reason vets make mistakes? there trying to hard, and often the reason for that, is that others are unable to try hard enough, basically they know if they don't do a thing no one else will either, sorta like Adams dropping a TD pass, or the 2 dropped pics last night.
unless you don't believe the house money concept, tension is a killer for a player, so if another player can help relieve some of that, geesus I can't believe I have to explain any of this stuff to you, come on
The only young guy who made any real mistake was Carlson. The only vet who did anything substantial was Aaron Jones.
Everyone else younger than Savage and Nixon did just fine - actually contributed to our success. Your theory you're trying to push has as much merit as me kicking myself for wearing a green shirt rather than a yellow shirt under my Packer 1/4 Zip.
Every player in the league is expected to catch those gimme's. Not catching them is on them and them alone.
Gentlemen (and Ladies):Pugger wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:34A Super Bowl team finds a way to win a game like this, not give it away like this.MY_TAKE wrote: ↑20 Jan 2024 22:27
You have been saying that all year pugger. Im sorry but this was a superbowl team right now! This game proves it. They have been playing as well as anyone. I am also not sure about your Baltimore prediction either. The last superbowl they won they were the final seed also. I vehemently disagree with your take.
So you want me to say the Packers lost yesterday because BG traded Sul to Buffalo which impacted the chemistry that messed with Savage and Nixon's brain while going for an interception so you can win an argument?Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 12:16again you resort to contorting comments because thats the only come back you got, 24 hours ago both teams started the game tight, just as many games like this, what settles them down is each other and the coaches, Rasul Douglas was a big help with that in the past, hell every player voiced as much when he left, and locker room chemistry, love for one another is a different thing and you know it, well, actually it seems you don't, and I think it's because winning this argument is more important then just admitting that players are in each others ear the whole game, &%$@ happens for reasons.go pak go wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 11:4624 hours ago this team was loaded with chemistry. We all reacted how they loved each other in the locker room. But now you are trying to lay claim Savage and Nixon dropped balls because of lack of chemistry? good grief.Yoop wrote: ↑21 Jan 2024 10:01
your the guy who wants to discount that chemistry, I'am the guy who knows it exist, players inspire one another, it helps them relieve tension, if you don't think those drops had to do with Savage and Nixon being wound tighter then a banjo string your kidding yourself.
would Rasul absolutely made that difference? no one can say, but it's common knowledge he motivated others, and was a excellent team mate others appreciated.
ya want to know a reason vets make mistakes? there trying to hard, and often the reason for that, is that others are unable to try hard enough, basically they know if they don't do a thing no one else will either, sorta like Adams dropping a TD pass, or the 2 dropped pics last night.
unless you don't believe the house money concept, tension is a killer for a player, so if another player can help relieve some of that, geesus I can't believe I have to explain any of this stuff to you, come on
The only young guy who made any real mistake was Carlson. The only vet who did anything substantial was Aaron Jones.
Everyone else younger than Savage and Nixon did just fine - actually contributed to our success. Your theory you're trying to push has as much merit as me kicking myself for wearing a green shirt rather than a yellow shirt under my Packer 1/4 Zip.
Every player in the league is expected to catch those gimme's. Not catching them is on them and them alone.