Funny the impact a guy who played 4 games, plus about a dozen playoff snaps, had on us. Would have been nice to have him back.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022 13:39
by Trudge
I saw this week about now how LeRoy Butler got in the hall of fame they can go after the next one. Sterling Sharpe was who he was talking about. Anyone else see this? There aren't any YouTube hits as far as I've known. Can see it makes an appearance on Tiger but it doesn't go beyond.
I saw this week about now how LeRoy Butler got in the hall of fame they can go after the next one. Sterling Sharpe was who he was talking about. Anyone else see this? There aren't any YouTube hits as far as I've known. Can see it makes an appearance on Tiger but it doesn't go beyond.
I don't think many people of note are out there stumping for Sharpe. I doubt he ever becomes a finalist.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022 13:59
by Acrobat
It really is a travesty that Sharpe isn't in, but at the same time, it's fair. He just didn't play enough years. I guarantee if he had played even two more seasons and won the Super Bowl in 96 and retired immediately after, he would have been in the HOF for years now.
It really is a travesty that Sharpe isn't in, but at the same time, it's fair. He just didn't play enough years. I guarantee if he had played even two more seasons and won the Super Bowl in 96 and retired immediately after, he would have been in the HOF for years now.
I'll agree, maybe it's fair that he had to be patient and wait his turn, but the time has come. His other accomplishments outside of bulk numbers are above and beyond many that are already in the HOF. Some just blow you away. He received MVP votes in 1992 and 1993. I still think it will happen for him. One of these years.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022 14:22
by NCF
I also get the argument that you can't vote someone to the HOF for what they might have become due to injury. But, I struggle with that same argument when it becomes you can't vote for someone to the HOF for what they truly were, but not long enough due to injury.
I also get the argument that you can't vote someone to the HOF for what they might have become due to injury. But, I struggle with that same argument when it becomes you can't vote for someone to the HOF for what they truly were, but not long enough due to injury.
To me if Terrell Davis is in, then Sharpe should be in. Easy as that. I've complained before, but every HOF sucks. Most of them turning into the hall of very good now anyway. Should be more selective.
I also get the argument that you can't vote someone to the HOF for what they might have become due to injury. But, I struggle with that same argument when it becomes you can't vote for someone to the HOF for what they truly were, but not long enough due to injury.
To me if Terrell Davis is in, then Sharpe should be in. Easy as that. I've complained before, but every HOF sucks. Most of them turning into the hall of very good now anyway. Should be more selective.
I don’t know, Davis has two rings, 2 offensive player of the year awards and an MVP. That is rare company for non QBs.
I also get the argument that you can't vote someone to the HOF for what they might have become due to injury. But, I struggle with that same argument when it becomes you can't vote for someone to the HOF for what they truly were, but not long enough due to injury.
Sayers was high profile, rookie of year with 2200 yrds, and 22 TD's basically active for 5 out of 7 seasons still accumulated over 9000 yrds, then we have Brians song and it's exposure, Sayers is still the youngest player selected to the HOF.
Sharp was one of the most dominating receivers ever, in 7 seasons he accumulated almost 9000 yrds as well, he simply didn't explode out of the gate so to speak like Gale or get the fan exposure nation wide or the media attention that Sayers did. he still did enough to get in though, and I expect he will in the next few years, I've felt for a while now that he's being snubbed.
I also get the argument that you can't vote someone to the HOF for what they might have become due to injury. But, I struggle with that same argument when it becomes you can't vote for someone to the HOF for what they truly were, but not long enough due to injury.
To me if Terrell Davis is in, then Sharpe should be in. Easy as that. I've complained before, but every HOF sucks. Most of them turning into the hall of very good now anyway. Should be more selective.
I don’t know, Davis has two rings, 2 offensive player of the year awards and an MVP. That is rare company for non QBs.
I’d seemingly go the other way. If Frank Gore gets in (he should and will), then Sterling Sharpe should get in.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 07 Apr 2022 15:34
by YoHoChecko
I have to say... I think Sharpe should be in, primarily because his best years when he was in the "best receiver in the league" discussion, the other guy in the conversation was Jerry Rice; Sharpe was setting records playing at the same time as Rice in his heyday. I think the brevity of Sharpe's reception record as the run and shoot and west coast passing offense refinement came to dominate the league and put guys like Herman Moore and Terrance Mathis in the thick of the record hunt shortly after really hurt Sharpe's case from an emotional standpoint.
All that said, I think I'm missing the gene or brain cells that make people care about Halls of Fame. I love the Packers' history and tradition and I like to think of things in historical context, so it's not that. I just haven't been able to get worked up or formulate a strong opinion on anything related to a Hall of Fame since like 2007 (random year, not precise). Don't know why. Just isn't for me.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 12 Apr 2022 08:25
by BF004
Seems like his development plan worked well.
Yet we saw really nice flashes as rookies, which could get you blasted for calling a nice pass rush rep a nice pass rush rep from people who hated the pick. I still don't get how giving him more snaps would have stunted his development.
Yet we saw really nice flashes as rookies, which could get you blasted for calling a nice pass rush rep a nice pass rush rep from people who hated the pick. I still don't get how giving him more snaps would have stunted his development.
so thats our plan? draft a player real high, watch him develop for two years, get great production for 2 years, then be unable to resign him, and out bid for his services when he hits UFA a year later, I like that Gary has finally become a great player.
I stand by my dislike of drafting Gary, another player I liked has been proving his value on the field since year one
Yet we saw really nice flashes as rookies, which could get you blasted for calling a nice pass rush rep a nice pass rush rep from people who hated the pick. I still don't get how giving him more snaps would have stunted his development.
so thats our plan? draft a player real high, watch him develop for two years, get great production for 2 years, then be unable to resign him, and out bid for his services when he hits UFA a year later, I like that Gary has finally become a great player.
I stand by my dislike of drafting Gary, another player I liked has been proving his value on the field since year one
We're not resigning Gary? I must have missed this news. Can you link me to the article?
I also get the argument that you can't vote someone to the HOF for what they might have become due to injury. But, I struggle with that same argument when it becomes you can't vote for someone to the HOF for what they truly were, but not long enough due to injury.
To me if Terrell Davis is in, then Sharpe should be in. Easy as that. I've complained before, but every HOF sucks. Most of them turning into the hall of very good now anyway. Should be more selective.
I don’t know, Davis has two rings, 2 offensive player of the year awards and an MVP. That is rare company for non QBs.
Yes, but I think the argument was for Davis' longevity or lack there of. The one HOFer who is in even though his career was cut short because of injury was Gale Sayers. Sayers played for 5 years while Sharpe played for 7.
Re: Green Bay Packers News 2022
Posted: 12 Apr 2022 10:30
by paco
Waiting for the report that Bak is no longer playing left tackle. Stenavich said that Nijman will get shots at RT and LT. Butkus says the best fit and best 5 on the field and he's sure they play around with that a little bit. So I read Bak is switching positions.
If you haven't figured out, I'm kidding. At least a little bit. Funny thing is that I thought Bak was a possible option at center. Pretty sure I tossed it in a mock or 2. Didn't pick it for the contest, but believe I was happy with the selection. Then we picked Tretter with our next pick.
Yet we saw really nice flashes as rookies, which could get you blasted for calling a nice pass rush rep a nice pass rush rep from people who hated the pick. I still don't get how giving him more snaps would have stunted his development.
so thats our plan? draft a player real high, watch him develop for two years, get great production for 2 years, then be unable to resign him, and out bid for his services when he hits UFA a year later, I like that Gary has finally become a great player.
I stand by my dislike of drafting Gary, another player I liked has been proving his value on the field since year one
We're not resigning Gary? I must have missed this news. Can you link me to the article?
we probably wont be able to, we just let the best WR in the league go do to contract demands, Gary will probably end up the same, I'd rather get 4 years of production prior to letting a huge investment walk out the door.
so thats our plan? draft a player real high, watch him develop for two years, get great production for 2 years, then be unable to resign him, and out bid for his services when he hits UFA a year later, I like that Gary has finally become a great player.
I stand by my dislike of drafting Gary, another player I liked has been proving his value on the field since year one
We're not resigning Gary? I must have missed this news. Can you link me to the article?
we probably wont be able to, we just let the best WR in the league go do to contract demands, Gary will probably end up the same, I'd rather get 4 years of production prior to letting a huge investment walk out the door.
That's not apples to apples though. We resigned Davante after his rookie deal, along with several other players. So the fact that Adams is gone does not give any indication that Gary would be gone too.
We're not resigning Gary? I must have missed this news. Can you link me to the article?
we probably wont be able to, we just let the best WR in the league go do to contract demands, Gary will probably end up the same, I'd rather get 4 years of production prior to letting a huge investment walk out the door.
That's not apples to apples though. We resigned Davante after his rookie deal, along with several other players. So the fact that Adams is gone does not give any indication that Gary would be gone too.
I actually cannot think of one single example, ever, where the Packers let a guy walk off his rookie contract because they could not afford to pay him. They have chose to let guys walk that they didn't value enough to pay like Hyde and Hayward, as examples, but never have they said, too rich for my blood with any player that they have targeted to keep coming off his rookie deal.
