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I read it and didn't verify, still he has the ability to provide that, and 85 YPG is nothing to sneeze at, and sharing snaps with Hall is no different then Jones sharing snaps with Dillon, the Vikes also had one of the best WR's in the league, either way, Cook amounts to cheap production signing that has the potential to make a huge difference for the Jets offense.APB wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 12:12If this were true, I'd be all-in on the signing. Unfortunately, it is not true.
Not sure where you got those numbers from but here is his yardage data for 2022 and beyond:
2022:
Rushing: 1173 yds
Receiving: + 295 yds
Total = 1468 yds
Games: 17
Yards/Game (2022) = 86.3 yds/gm
Career:
Rushing: 5993 yds
Receiving: + 1794 yds
Total = 7787 yds
Games: 73
Yards/Game (Career) = 106.6 yds/gm
And that was as the established no.1 RB in a favorable scheme. He'll be lucky to get half the yards/game he saw in Minny.
Other fun stuff:
Well, gee whiz, [mention]Yoop[/mention], you could make an argument for any number of players that they have the ability to perform at a certain level. The point is, most don't.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 14:34I read it and didn't verify, still he has the ability to provide that, and 85 YPG is nothing to sneeze at, and sharing snaps with Hall is no different then Jones sharing snaps with Dillon, the Vikes also had one of the best WR's in the league, either way, Cook amounts to cheap production signing that has the potential to make a huge difference for the Jets offense.APB wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 12:12If this were true, I'd be all-in on the signing. Unfortunately, it is not true.
Not sure where you got those numbers from but here is his yardage data for 2022 and beyond:
2022:
Rushing: 1173 yds
Receiving: + 295 yds
Total = 1468 yds
Games: 17
Yards/Game (2022) = 86.3 yds/gm
Career:
Rushing: 5993 yds
Receiving: + 1794 yds
Total = 7787 yds
Games: 73
Yards/Game (Career) = 106.6 yds/gm
And that was as the established no.1 RB in a favorable scheme. He'll be lucky to get half the yards/game he saw in Minny.
there are WR's making twice what Cooks got and wont even come close to producing what Cooks will for the Jets.
we'll see.
bruh it was rough.
APB wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 16:00Well, gee whiz, @Yoop, you could make an argument for any number of players that they have the ability to perform at a certain level. The point is, most don't.Yoop wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 14:34I read it and didn't verify, still he has the ability to provide that, and 85 YPG is nothing to sneeze at, and sharing snaps with Hall is no different then Jones sharing snaps with Dillon, the Vikes also had one of the best WR's in the league, either way, Cook amounts to cheap production signing that has the potential to make a huge difference for the Jets offense.APB wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 12:12
If this were true, I'd be all-in on the signing. Unfortunately, it is not true.
Not sure where you got those numbers from but here is his yardage data for 2022 and beyond:
2022:
Rushing: 1173 yds
Receiving: + 295 yds
Total = 1468 yds
Games: 17
Yards/Game (2022) = 86.3 yds/gm
Career:
Rushing: 5993 yds
Receiving: + 1794 yds
Total = 7787 yds
Games: 73
Yards/Game (Career) = 106.6 yds/gm
And that was as the established no.1 RB in a favorable scheme. He'll be lucky to get half the yards/game he saw in Minny.
there are WR's making twice what Cooks got and wont even come close to producing what Cooks will for the Jets.
we'll see.
Cook (and please, for the love of god note the spelling) did it once over an entire season three years ago but hasn't come close since, and that was with starter level touches every year he's played. You're now arguing it's a good signing because he could possibly achieve that level again despite sharing carries, at best, or filling in as backup, at worst.
In your own words - No sale.
For the record, the Packers moving on from Jones next offseason would result in only $12.355 million of dead money counting against their cap.LombardiTime wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 00:14And while their caps hits will be (I believe) about equal in 2023, the Pack is on the hook for $24M in dead cap expenditures in the future even if they move on from Jones after the 2023 season.
If Cook's contract with the Jets is a bad one ... for the team, why is the Jones contract a good one for the Pack?
When 58 mill of dead cap is burned off in 23, we can afford to pay Jones in 24 if we want to.CWIMM wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 05:22For the record, the Packers moving on from Jones next offseason would result in only $12.355 million of dead money counting against their cap.LombardiTime wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 00:14And while their caps hits will be (I believe) about equal in 2023, the Pack is on the hook for $24M in dead cap expenditures in the future even if they move on from Jones after the 2023 season.
If Cook's contract with the Jets is a bad one ... for the team, why is the Jones contract a good one for the Pack?
With that being said I don't consider the Jets signing Cook a good move. They had more pressing needs than adding a running back with Hall and Carter on their roster.
Currently set for $18M in cap space without resigning Gary yet. That doesn’t consider probably extending Love if he plays well this season. It also doesn’t consider possibly retaining Runyan or Dillon. Now for Dillon it would be cheap. I would expect $5M. Runyan though is a great pass blocking guard that I think teams would consider giving a shot at RT. I think he gets paid.Cdragon wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 06:49When 58 mill of dead cap is burned off in 23, we can afford to pay Jones in 24 if we want to.CWIMM wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 05:22For the record, the Packers moving on from Jones next offseason would result in only $12.355 million of dead money counting against their cap.LombardiTime wrote: ↑15 Aug 2023 00:14And while their caps hits will be (I believe) about equal in 2023, the Pack is on the hook for $24M in dead cap expenditures in the future even if they move on from Jones after the 2023 season.
If Cook's contract with the Jets is a bad one ... for the team, why is the Jones contract a good one for the Pack?
With that being said I don't consider the Jets signing Cook a good move. They had more pressing needs than adding a running back with Hall and Carter on their roster.
Runyan, a non-special OL, is the exact guy you'd kind of want to just let walk and hope you have a near replacement level guy on a rookie contract to step in for a few years, take the comp pick, draft another rookie OL with it. Not looking good for Rhyan at the moment though.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 07:04Currently set for $18M in cap space without resigning Gary yet. That doesn’t consider probably extending Love if he plays well this season. It also doesn’t consider possibly retaining Runyan or Dillon. Now for Dillon it would be cheap. I would expect $5M. Runyan though is a great pass blocking guard that I think teams would consider giving a shot at RT. I think he gets paid.Cdragon wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 06:49When 58 mill of dead cap is burned off in 23, we can afford to pay Jones in 24 if we want to.CWIMM wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 05:22
For the record, the Packers moving on from Jones next offseason would result in only $12.355 million of dead money counting against their cap.
With that being said I don't consider the Jets signing Cook a good move. They had more pressing needs than adding a running back with Hall and Carter on their roster.
Yeah I remember proponents of bringing Rodgers back were saying... well last season he had the thumb, his play will be elite next year without it.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 14:15worth noting this is the second calf injury of the offseason. One to each leg.
True, especially as the Packers would save less than $5 million of cap space by moving on from Jones next offseason.
It's all but guaranteed the Packers will gain an additional $21.5 million of cap space for 2024 by moving on from Bakhtiari after this season. In addition they could extend Love without his cap hit increasing for 2024. There's no need to break the bank for either Runyan or Dillon either.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 07:04Currently set for $18M in cap space without resigning Gary yet. That doesn’t consider probably extending Love if he plays well this season. It also doesn’t consider possibly retaining Runyan or Dillon. Now for Dillon it would be cheap. I would expect $5M. Runyan though is a great pass blocking guard that I think teams would consider giving a shot at RT. I think he gets paid.
don't care