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I am actually shocked by this. I thought this guy had a clear path to the Practice Squad and with next year 2 to 3 WR's no longer being on the team, there is a real shot a Psquad guy this year has a shot next year.
Maybe got a real world job offer he couldn't turn down? Who knows. Some thought he could make the PS, but that's not how everyone wants to live. He was a long shot to ever make an NFL roster.
awe man, Rodgers needed to go to bat for this big play phenomgo pak go wrote: ↑03 Aug 2021 10:47I am actually shocked by this. I thought this guy had a clear path to the Practice Squad and with next year 2 to 3 WR's no longer being on the team, there is a real shot a Psquad guy this year has a shot next year.
Plus you make good money on the practice squad. He must have had another good opportunity show up.
BSA wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 11:34
"LaFleur said that he loves Kamal Martin's aggressiveness but as far as him practicing second or third team so far, he said that Martin has to earn his way onto the field. From early going it looks like Krys Barnes, De'Vondre Campbell and Ty Summers are ahead of him at ILB."
Its still early ! But it looks like the JustJeff forum over-rated Kamal Martin in the rank- the- roster polls ( #30)
Agreed- its not a great sign, but its also not a death knell either.
It's fine to me in the circumstances.BSA wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 13:09Agreed- its not a great sign, but its also not a death knell either.
If you think about it from the POV of only 48 active players on Sundays, the HC will favor a depth player who can handle 2 roles. So its also an opportunity for Martin to carve out a hybrid role. GB has done this in the past with CB/S guys who can do both in a pinch and that's their ticket to being activated on game day.
DeVondre Campbell talked about this a bit in his presser saying he specialized in covering TEs - due to his size/athleticism. He noted that the big TEs just over- power the Safeties in coverage, but that wasn't the case for him.YoHoChecko wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 14:29I think DeVondre should be doing it, too. Our longer athletic LBs make perfect sense to play the coverage/blitz OLB role,
I think our coverage is good enough. I really didn’t think they were that bad last year, especially once Savage got his head out of his ass the 2nd half of the season. King stinks but Stokes should take that over.Yoop wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 14:48we got pass rushers, what we need is pass coverage, sooooooo, again, if we are going to use more base ( 50 fronts, 3 down, two up) then we need more then just P.Smith that can drop into coverage, or like last year we become to obvious in our coverages, and P. Smith looses half his battles in coverage, Martin should match up well on most TE's and even RB's.
agree, the more players ya can move around, the better, less substitution, so if ya can move a Martin from edge to ILB it takes time for the QB to account for every defender, the goal is to have someone unchecked and a free run at the QB.
we saw a lot of energy and hustle last year from Martin, hopefully martin can put that to better use, I don't want to think we here at Just Jeffs pigskin Prattle ( original name) over valued him.
lets face it most of our picks in Waldo's exercise are barely more then educated guesses based on hope, wants and desires, it's amazing we are as accurate as we are
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-ex ... 59229.html
Let's call a spade a spade right now.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 22:38I think our coverage is good enough. I really didn’t think they were that bad last year, especially once Savage got his head out of his ass the 2nd half of the season. King stinks but Stokes should take that over.Yoop wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 14:48we got pass rushers, what we need is pass coverage, sooooooo, again, if we are going to use more base ( 50 fronts, 3 down, two up) then we need more then just P.Smith that can drop into coverage, or like last year we become to obvious in our coverages, and P. Smith looses half his battles in coverage, Martin should match up well on most TE's and even RB's.
agree, the more players ya can move around, the better, less substitution, so if ya can move a Martin from edge to ILB it takes time for the QB to account for every defender, the goal is to have someone unchecked and a free run at the QB.
we saw a lot of energy and hustle last year from Martin, hopefully martin can put that to better use, I don't want to think we here at Just Jeffs pigskin Prattle ( original name) over valued him.
lets face it most of our picks in Waldo's exercise are barely more then educated guesses based on hope, wants and desires, it's amazing we are as accurate as we are
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-ex ... 59229.html
I thought the biggest problem was down and distance. It’s hard to stop the past when you are constantly behind the eight ball. Team had a lot of favorable 2nd and 3rd downs because our run defense was so bad. That’s the biggest thing for me. I think that was also a big reason why our pass rushers struggled. It helps them when they have better down and distances to work with.
ok, but what rookie CB doesn't get burned, heres a snip from JS onlinego pak go wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021 05:57Let's call a spade a spade right now.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 22:38I think our coverage is good enough. I really didn’t think they were that bad last year, especially once Savage got his head out of his ass the 2nd half of the season. King stinks but Stokes should take that over.Yoop wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 14:48we got pass rushers, what we need is pass coverage, sooooooo, again, if we are going to use more base ( 50 fronts, 3 down, two up) then we need more then just P.Smith that can drop into coverage, or like last year we become to obvious in our coverages, and P. Smith looses half his battles in coverage, Martin should match up well on most TE's and even RB's.
agree, the more players ya can move around, the better, less substitution, so if ya can move a Martin from edge to ILB it takes time for the QB to account for every defender, the goal is to have someone unchecked and a free run at the QB.
we saw a lot of energy and hustle last year from Martin, hopefully martin can put that to better use, I don't want to think we here at Just Jeffs pigskin Prattle ( original name) over valued him.
lets face it most of our picks in Waldo's exercise are barely more then educated guesses based on hope, wants and desires, it's amazing we are as accurate as we are
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-ex ... 59229.html
I thought the biggest problem was down and distance. It’s hard to stop the past when you are constantly behind the eight ball. Team had a lot of favorable 2nd and 3rd downs because our run defense was so bad. That’s the biggest thing for me. I think that was also a big reason why our pass rushers struggled. It helps them when they have better down and distances to work with.
Stokes has been absolutely been lit up in Training Camp so far. It's not games so that is good. But Juwann Winfree added his name of WRs to the list who has embarrassed Stokes.
I don't care when it's Adams burning Stokes. I will understand when that happens. And that was a popular storyline from last week of how "Stokes mentality is good. yada yada yada."...I've heard all that.Yoop wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021 08:03ok, but what rookie CB doesn't get burned, heres a snip from JS onlinego pak go wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021 05:57Let's call a spade a spade right now.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 22:38
I think our coverage is good enough. I really didn’t think they were that bad last year, especially once Savage got his head out of his ass the 2nd half of the season. King stinks but Stokes should take that over.
I thought the biggest problem was down and distance. It’s hard to stop the past when you are constantly behind the eight ball. Team had a lot of favorable 2nd and 3rd downs because our run defense was so bad. That’s the biggest thing for me. I think that was also a big reason why our pass rushers struggled. It helps them when they have better down and distances to work with.
Stokes has been absolutely been lit up in Training Camp so far. It's not games so that is good. But Juwann Winfree added his name of WRs to the list who has embarrassed Stokes.
Stokes is getting burned a lot in training camp, but the fact all-pro Davante Adams is doing a lot of it has kept Stokes' spirits high. The first-round pick out of Georgia is experiencing what Jaire Alexander did three years ago and it wound up making him a better cornerback.
can't make a omelet without first busting a few eggs, Stokes is simply dealing with better receivers, better pass routes and the best QB in the league, as Savage said after one torching, ya wont face many number 12 and 17's in this league, don't become discouraged.
Lupe: my comment concerning coverage mostly centered on Martin and our OLB's being able to drop and cover, sounds like we are also doing that some with Campbell
I said when we took Stokes I have my concerns with him in coverage because his feet are terrible and all over the place. He should still be better than King. I'll wait a bit to call Stokes a Charred Caprese Sandwich.go pak go wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021 05:57Let's call a spade a spade right now.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 22:38I think our coverage is good enough. I really didn’t think they were that bad last year, especially once Savage got his head out of his ass the 2nd half of the season. King stinks but Stokes should take that over.Yoop wrote: ↑04 Aug 2021 14:48we got pass rushers, what we need is pass coverage, sooooooo, again, if we are going to use more base ( 50 fronts, 3 down, two up) then we need more then just P.Smith that can drop into coverage, or like last year we become to obvious in our coverages, and P. Smith looses half his battles in coverage, Martin should match up well on most TE's and even RB's.
agree, the more players ya can move around, the better, less substitution, so if ya can move a Martin from edge to ILB it takes time for the QB to account for every defender, the goal is to have someone unchecked and a free run at the QB.
we saw a lot of energy and hustle last year from Martin, hopefully martin can put that to better use, I don't want to think we here at Just Jeffs pigskin Prattle ( original name) over valued him.
lets face it most of our picks in Waldo's exercise are barely more then educated guesses based on hope, wants and desires, it's amazing we are as accurate as we are
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-ex ... 59229.html
I thought the biggest problem was down and distance. It’s hard to stop the past when you are constantly behind the eight ball. Team had a lot of favorable 2nd and 3rd downs because our run defense was so bad. That’s the biggest thing for me. I think that was also a big reason why our pass rushers struggled. It helps them when they have better down and distances to work with.
Stokes has been absolutely been lit up in Training Camp so far. It's not games so that is good. But Juwann Winfree added his name of WRs to the list who has embarrassed Stokes.
If Winfree keeps this up there's basically zero shot for Funchess or ESB to make the roster.
I think the Funchess versus Lazard battle is going to be potentially real. Similar players, similar body types, similar dropsies, similar not-fast. Funchess is more of a middle-of-the-field weapon and Lazard is more of a "right place, right time" Rodgers fave. Will be interesting to see how that plays out with the front office and RodgersWaldo wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021 09:36If Winfree keeps this up there's basically zero shot for Funchess or ESB to make the roster.
Adams
Cobb
MVS
Lazard
Rogers
are locks.
If a 6th WR is kept, it would certainly be a guy like Winfree to develop, not a meh vet like Funchess or ESB. For either to make the roster, it's going to take an injury or they are going to have to take MVS' or Lazard's spot, good luck with that.