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Rank The Roster: 2022 Edition

1. Aaron Rodgers (62%)[--]
2. Kenny Clark (43%)[+3]
3. Jaire Alexander (44%)[--]
4. David Bakhtiari (40%)[--]
5. Elgton Jenkins (29%)[+3]
6. Rashan Gary (51%)[+4]
7. DeVondre Campbell (51%)[+26]
8. Aaron Jones (53%)[-1]
9. Adrian Amos (40%)[--]
10. Eric Stokes (41%)[+10]
11. AJ Dillon (42%)[+5]
12. Preston Smith (52%)[+2]
13. Rasul Douglas (42%)[+29]
14. Darnell Savage (42%)[-1]
15. Alan Lazard (33%)[+5]
16. Current (xx%)[--]

Percent of vote the winner got will be in parenthesis, position change vs. 2019 will be in brackets.

Here's how this works:

Each day there is a new thread/poll, starting at #1, on down to whereever we get. The whole point of this exercise is to have something to talk about in the lean news months to carry us to camp. Each poll will be open for voting for 24 hours. New threads will only be created on weekdays. Ties will cause a runoff poll. You may vote up to TWO players (a change that was made mid-poll last year, seemed to work well).

Simply voting is not enough!

Post why you voted for who you did and provide a player to add to the next poll (every poll will be a list of 15-20 guys, new players added in bunches every few days).

Here's the thing. There is no criteria. This is an exercise to foster discussion therefore there are no clear criteria for ranking. Who is better right now? Who will have the best season? Who was better last year? Sort of a combo of them all? Do you take positional value into account? It really doesn't matter.

Previous Years:
Rank the Roster: 2021
Rank the Roster: 2020
Rank the Roster: 2014-2019

Alright, a pass catcher finally goes.

I could be persuaded to go for another pass catcher soon, maybe Tonyan or Watson.

But its a good time to fill in a couple line spots. I think big Dean will still be a key part of the DL all season, and JRJ is the mostly likely to start guard.

I know there's going to be a big Myers push here, but G is definitely more impactful and we have a bunch of decent guards, all young and still improving.

Huh. Wow.

Dean, eh?

Are we going with a certainty to be solid over the uncertainty of the others' obviously greater upside?

I mean, we drafted a first round pick for the intent of diminishing Lowry's role at least in part (I know they're limited in overlapping roles, but it happens). Tonyan will be a better player when out there, but it's unknown if he misses the first 6 games or just a couple.

We all know I'm a Watkins believer. I think he's our most likely WR1 role when healthy.

But I would proably vote for at least 4 of these guys before Dean. I do have a higher propensity to rely on projection in these exercises while others tend to calue certainty, but I just didn't anticipate the thought that Dean Lowry is better than our 20th best starter.

It is generally accepted that center is the 2nd most critical position in the Oline. They make the line calls. They have to be able to block a NT and a blitzing LB and so they need the power of a guard with the quickness of a LT. The Packers have a proven center just entering his second year, a probable all-pro. Myers

It is generally accepted that QB, LT and WR#1 are the 3 most valuable positions in today's offense. The Packers paid a first round price for the starting WR#1 and he is an athletic freak. There has not been any Packer with this kind of athletic potential at WR - ever. Not even Lofton.

These are my choices. Other people may choose a rotational Delineman who is unlikely to play more than half the snaps and could get cut. Interesting choice but I don't understand it.

going with Watkins and Watson again, Watkins because Rodgers likes skilled veterans, and Watson because I think Rodgers called Gute after day one and asked if he wanted a repeat tantrum of the previous year

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 03:41

It is generally accepted that center is the 2nd most critical position in the Oline. They make the line calls. They have to be able to block a NT and a blitzing LB and so they need the power of a guard with the quickness of a LT. The Packers have a proven center just entering his second year, a probable all-pro. Myers

It is generally accepted that QB, LT and WR#1 are the 3 most valuable positions in today's offense. The Packers paid a first round price for the starting WR#1 and he is an athletic freak. There has not been any Packer with this kind of athletic potential at WR - ever. Not even Lofton.

These are my choices. Other people may choose a rotational Delineman who is unlikely to play more than half the snaps and could get cut. Interesting choice but I don't understand it.

If center is the second most important OL position ( good argument) why is it the least paid of all 5? or was the last time I looked, I like most of what we've seen of Myers even though I liked the kid we passed on more, and center doesn't automatically do line calls ( blocking assignments) often the QB does, or even a guard, when ya see Rodgers making adjustments often he is adjusting the blocking, still I tend to agree, a great center solidifies the line, makes it much better, in that sense they should make the same money as a guard, maybe even RT.

I'm on Runyan here, but also casting a vote for Myers. I think these guys are both ascending lineman who have already produced. After these two, then I think I have to go with Watkins over Watson who I think is going to take some time.

Haven’t debated the past few or paid a ton of attention, but really think Myers needs to be going here and should have went sooner.

I really think the WR group is being muddled by Randall Cobb. Is he a part of that starting 3 and will he remain a part of that group as the season progresses? I feel pretty good about Lazard and Watkins, but what about Cobb? If Cobb is in that group it really will diminish what we see from Watson and Doubs. I actually think there is about a 50-50 chance Doubs outperforms Watson in 2022 just because I think less will be asked of him and he seems most likely to slide into that MVS speed only role. Not that Watson couldn't, but I just don't think that is how they will choose to deploy him this year.

BF004 wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 08:11

Haven’t debated the past few or paid a ton of attention, but really think Myers needs to be going here and should have went sooner.

why? of all centers ranked who had 200 snaps he ranked poorly



54.9. Myers ranked 34th among centers with at least 200 snaps. He was 19th in pass-blocking grade but only 37th in run-blocking grade. While he finished as the second-highest graded rookie center, his grade was over 37 points lower than top rookie Creed Humphrey, who went one pick after Myers to the Kansas City Chiefs.Feb 8, 2022

I didn't study centers prior to last years draft, was simply glad we took one, but he didn't impress me that much, in fact Patrick was one of the best Run blocking centers in the league last season, it made little sense to me that we moved Patrick to RG, brought in Myers, who had to be rusty and showed it against SF, benched Newman, moved Taylor to LT and put Kelly at RT and both stunk the game up, I had been impressed with our OL coach till he did that.

imo Myers has a lot to prove, more then Runyan, imo Runyan allows us to move Jenkins to either tackle position.

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 10:26

BF004 wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 08:11

Haven’t debated the past few or paid a ton of attention, but really think Myers needs to be going here and should have went sooner.

why? of all centers ranked who had 200 snaps he ranked poorly



54.9. Myers ranked 34th among centers with at least 200 snaps. He was 19th in pass-blocking grade but only 37th in run-blocking grade. While he finished as the second-highest graded rookie center, his grade was over 37 points lower than top rookie Creed Humphrey, who went one pick after Myers to the Kansas City Chiefs.Feb 8, 2022

I didn't study centers prior to last years draft, was simply glad we took one, but he didn't impress me that much, in fact Patrick was one of the best Run blocking centers in the league last season, it made little sense to me that we moved Patrick to RG, brought in Myers, who had to be rusty and showed it against SF, benched Newman, moved Taylor to LT and put Kelly at RT and both stunk the game up, I had been impressed with our OL coach till he did that.

imo Myers has a lot to prove, more then Runyan, imo Runyan allows us to move Jenkins to either tackle position.

Agreed, when it comes to the OL at least. Myers was ok, but he certainly was no fringe all-pro. He was a competent snapper that did some nice 2nd level stuff from time to time. But he's certainly not the type (yet) that will clear out wide open A gaps on every run, and pass rushers can get by him.

I thought this post was interesting and relevant to this discussion.

If Quay is already starting, I'll definitely take him over Watson as the first rookie off the board. I'll switch my Lowry vote to Quay.

Reed though. I'll put him up next poll.

Waldo wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 12:30

I thought this post was interesting and relevant to this discussion.

If Quay is already starting, I'll definitely take him over Watson as the first rookie off the board.

Reed though. I'll put him up next poll.

Not sure how much gravity there is to this, but no Lowry either.

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 07:54

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 03:41

It is generally accepted that center is the 2nd most critical position in the Oline. They make the line calls. They have to be able to block a NT and a blitzing LB and so they need the power of a guard with the quickness of a LT. The Packers have a proven center just entering his second year, a probable all-pro. Myers

It is generally accepted that QB, LT and WR#1 are the 3 most valuable positions in today's offense. The Packers paid a first round price for the starting WR#1 and he is an athletic freak. There has not been any Packer with this kind of athletic potential at WR - ever. Not even Lofton.

These are my choices. Other people may choose a rotational Delineman who is unlikely to play more than half the snaps and could get cut. Interesting choice but I don't understand it.

If center is the second most important OL position ( good argument) why is it the least paid of all 5? or was the last time I looked, I like most of what we've seen of Myers even though I liked the kid we passed on more, and center doesn't automatically do line calls ( blocking assignments) often the QB does, or even a guard, when ya see Rodgers making adjustments often he is adjusting the blocking, still I tend to agree, a great center solidifies the line, makes it much better, in that sense they should make the same money as a guard, maybe even RT.

Center is also the lowest drafted offensive line position.

Myers and Wyatt for me. DL might take time but GB didn't draft Wyatt to take time. He's a stud and he's older. He will be asked to contribute right away. This is all upside vote for me but his play alongside Clark and Reed will really make this D good to possibly great.

Waldo wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 12:33

Yoop wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 07:54

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 03:41

It is generally accepted that center is the 2nd most critical position in the Oline. They make the line calls. They have to be able to block a NT and a blitzing LB and so they need the power of a guard with the quickness of a LT. The Packers have a proven center just entering his second year, a probable all-pro. Myers

It is generally accepted that QB, LT and WR#1 are the 3 most valuable positions in today's offense. The Packers paid a first round price for the starting WR#1 and he is an athletic freak. There has not been any Packer with this kind of athletic potential at WR - ever. Not even Lofton.

These are my choices. Other people may choose a rotational Delineman who is unlikely to play more than half the snaps and could get cut. Interesting choice but I don't understand it.

If center is the second most important OL position ( good argument) why is it the least paid of all 5? or was the last time I looked, I like most of what we've seen of Myers even though I liked the kid we passed on more, and center doesn't automatically do line calls ( blocking assignments) often the QB does, or even a guard, when ya see Rodgers making adjustments often he is adjusting the blocking, still I tend to agree, a great center solidifies the line, makes it much better, in that sense they should make the same money as a guard, maybe even RT.

Center is also the lowest drafted offensive line position.

sure, one reason is because ya need twice as many G's and T's , but even so, teams almost refuse to spend a first on a center, they've got to be stand out once a decade fabulous Ponzi ( think I got the name right) good to be picked in round one

we had Tretter, now ranked 2nd, let him go, we had Linsley, now ranked 3rd, let him go, guess we didn't want to set a precedent of over paying for centers so we'd rather spend another 3rd rounder on one, and though he had a rough rookie year, he did show some good stuff and promise at times.

I suppose if the concern is voting in starters over rotational players, well OK, I get that, but Walker, Wyatt and Watkins will play a lot this year, so even though they'll rotate, there also as valuable as starters.

Waldo wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2022 12:33

Center is also the lowest drafted offensive line position.

What's the second lowest drafted Oline position?

I have never ever heard anyone wanting to draft a RG-only prospect, so maybe that?

A good center is more valuable than an average guard or RT. Myers is already a good center, particularly considering that he was a rookie and missed the middle of the season because of an injury. He started the playoff game rather than Patrick after returning the game before, that should tell everyone all they need to know.

Also, if a guard screws up the run gets stuffed or the QB has to hurry the throw. If a center screws up the ball is on the ground or a LB gets a free run at the QB and the cart comes out for that QB. The position is considered less valuable because there are a lot of college linemen that are good athletes but not big enough to play guard or OT in the NFL. What there are not many of is centers who are 6'5" and 310 and quick enough. It gives an Oline a lot of options when you don't have to double team the NT on most running plays.

Glad to see my guys in a tie. Probably go with JRJ next.