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Jones and fumbles
Posted: 20 Dec 2022 12:02
by Scott4Pack
Was that fumble to the Rams yesterday the second time he has fumbled to them?
I ask because I am a little concerned that AJ, an almost always secure guy handling the ball, fumbles at in opportune moments. I think we’ve seen that twice in the playoffs these past couple of years. There’s yesterday too.
Yeah, he almost never fumbles. But when he does, it’s at the worst times of the season. Is this my imagination, or is there a real trend here? Does anybody have some data?
Again, I love Jones. I want the Pack to keep him as long as they can. And there’s hardly a more dynamic guy around. I don’t want us to give him the ball less either. It’s just this one thing… I hope it’s understandable what I’m writing here.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 20 Dec 2022 12:06
by Drj820
Jones usually fumbles when he gets hit super hard. He’s a shifty guy so it’s hard to land a pure shot on him. It doesn’t happen often. But when he doesn’t see the defender coming, can’t do a shift avoid major contact, and gets popped…he is prone to cough it up.
It seems he does this more in big games because big games are played against good opponents and they are the teams with the types of defenders that can get pure shots on Jones and make him cough it up.
Just my opinion
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 20 Dec 2022 14:37
by BSA
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑20 Dec 2022 12:02
I ask because I am a little concerned that AJ, an almost always secure guy handling the ball, fumbles at in opportune moments.
Putting the ball on the ground was one of the knocks on Jones coming out of UTEP and part of the reason he fell to the 5th round. He's done a good job of getting better at ball control, but he still gets it punched out ( at inopportune times) and CBs/LBs will continue trying to pry it loose.
Elite hands at catching the ball, but still room for improvement in retaining the ball post-contact.
Jones also moved past John Brockington on the all-time Packers rushing list with just over 5000 yds in Titletown
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 08:33
by Scott4Pack
I do feel like I’m being a little (not entirely) nit-picky about this. He is more secure with the ball than probably the vast majority of RBs. But it’s those times when it’s a big game or whatnot…
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 09:32
by Pugger
Was the ball ripped out of his hand Monday night?
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 09:38
by Pckfn23
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 10:16
by go pak go
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022 08:33
I do feel like I’m being a little (not entirely) nit-picky about this. He is more secure with the ball than probably the vast majority of RBs. But it’s those times when it’s a big game or whatnot…
Basically remove Aaron Jones games vs Tampa and he is pretty decent. It's those damn Tampa games.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 10:33
by Yoop
as was said it was a take away, not a fumble, there is a difference, sure it amounts to the same thing, a turn over, imo though take aways like Ramsey did should be a foul on the defender, since when did we make it legal to tackle the football.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 13:25
by Scott4Pack
go pak go wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022 10:16
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022 08:33
I do feel like I’m being a little (not entirely) nit-picky about this. He is more secure with the ball than probably the vast majority of RBs. But it’s those times when it’s a big game or whatnot…
Basically remove Aaron Jones games vs Tampa and he is pretty decent. It's those damn Tampa games.
Yeah. Twice against them I think.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 14:27
by Trudge
Yeah, he almost never fumbles. But when he does, it’s at the worst times of the season. Is this my imagination, or is there a real trend here? Does anybody have some data?
Is there ever a good time to fumble?
Looking back...he doesn't really let the ball go. Where has this happened?
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 15:07
by BSA
Trudge wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022 14:27
Looking back...
he doesn't really let the ball go. Where has this happened?
Agreed.
By memory, they've mostly been at the end of plays - either getting it punched out or as part of the tackle/collision.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 15:53
by Scott4Pack
Trudge wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022 14:27
Yeah, he almost never fumbles. But when he does, it’s at the worst times of the season. Is this my imagination, or is there a real trend here? Does anybody have some data?
Is there ever a good time to fumble?
Looking back...he doesn't really let the ball go. Where has this happened?
I’d have to check back on which exact games. But one was the playoff loss to Tampa. We still had momentum when Jones was hit very hard. I actually think that almost anybody would’ve fumbled on that hit oftentimes. Another was also against Tampa, a team that we haven’t fared well against lately.
Does anybody recall if he fumbled against SF in the playoffs too?
Again, the sample size is small.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 16:02
by BSA
AJones Fumbles by year: 1, 3, 2,2,4
Playoffs, 2 in 2020
that's not very many
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... neAa00.htm
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 18:09
by Ghost_Lombardi
Aaron Jones will turn 29 next year. Time flies when you are fumbling away the playoffs.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 21 Dec 2022 19:07
by Yoop
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022 18:09
Aaron Jones will turn 29 next year. Time flies when you are fumbling away the playoffs.
weren't you against his resign, Jones has sure lived up to his contract, he'll be around another year, his fumble totals are low, huge producer.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 17 Jan 2023 17:05
by Scott4Pack
Just a bookmark in this thread. Jones had a key fumble against Detroit in the final week, must-win game.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 17 Jan 2023 17:18
by RingoCStarrQB
Scott4Pack wrote: ↑17 Jan 2023 17:05
Just a bookmark in this thread. Jones had a key fumble against Detroit in the final week, must-win game.
Packers loss to Detroit was more due to an inept offense led by the Packers QB and Head Coach, not one Aaron Jones fumble. Packers had the ball late in the 4th quarter with every opportunity to march down the field and score ala the Ice Bowl, but instead came up short due to terrible play calling and offensive play execution. It was an ugly season 4th quarter finale in Titletown.
At least Hinterland was serving good tequila and brews after standing up the entire Packers - Lions game.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 18 Jan 2023 10:47
by Pugger
Jones fumbles at the same rate as other top backs. I guess it comes with the position.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-f ... ning-backs
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 18 Jan 2023 10:53
by Drj820
its not the amount of fumbles, its when he fumbles.
Re: Jones and fumbles
Posted: 18 Jan 2023 14:05
by Scott4Pack
Drj820 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2023 10:53
its not the amount of fumbles, its when he fumbles.
Yup. That’s exactly part of my point when I began this thread. Thanks.