Favre vs. Rodgers, both 39

German_Panzer · Post by **German_Panzer** » 11 Jan 2023 14:39

Who is better? Who would you let play on your team if you had to decide right now? Remember, Favre in 2008/09 was still pretty

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Crazylegs Starks · Post by **Crazylegs Starks** » 11 Jan 2023 15:15

Hmm, this is tough. If we are going by 2008 Favre, then it's Rodgers hands down, but 2009 Favre was better than 2022 Rodgers. (Yes, I know Favre had the bicep injury for most of 2008, while 2022 Rodgers had the thumb thing.)

I guess I'd still go with Rodgers because historically he throws fewer interceptions, and late-career Favre looked particularly bad in cold games. The Vikings being a dome team really helped Favre.

Labrev · Post by **Labrev** » 11 Jan 2023 15:28

Push. Both were great QBs early on and for their time that eventually became playoff choke artists, just 1 ring each, although Favre came damn close to two if not for a few bad calls by the coach.

texas · Post by **texas** » 11 Jan 2023 15:41

We should just put a retractable roof on Lambeau and then leave it open most of the time except whenever our QB gets above 35 years old. Problem solved.

GB cold used to be an advantage but for the last 2 QBs it has been an overwhelming disadvantage over the 2nd halves of their careers.

Boomers can daydream about the good old days where you won with a strong line and tough running game in a cold game but that style doesn't work as well anymore (although notably in the playoffs it seems to knock off good teams). Gotta pass the ball. Can't do it with an old QB who has been frostbitten.

go pak go · Post by **go pak go** » 11 Jan 2023 15:43

I'm I'm the Packers, neither of them.

If I'm the Jets, I would want Aaron Rodgers.

Pugger · Post by **Pugger** » 11 Jan 2023 16:29

go pak go wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 15:43
I'm I'm the Packers, neither of them.

If I'm the Jets, I would want Aaron Rodgers.

go pak go · Post by **go pak go** » 11 Jan 2023 16:34

Pugger wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:29

go pak go wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 15:43
I'm I'm the Packers, neither of them.

If I'm the Jets, I would want Aaron Rodgers.

The Jets have the ammo to build around an aging quarterback. We don't.

Pugger · Post by **Pugger** » 11 Jan 2023 16:40

go pak go wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:34

Pugger wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:29

go pak go wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 15:43
I'm I'm the Packers, neither of them.

If I'm the Jets, I would want Aaron Rodgers.

The Jets have the ammo to build around an aging quarterback. We don't.

True but I got the feeling this thread was just comparing the play of Rodgers vs Favre at the age of 39.

Yoop · Post by **Yoop** » 11 Jan 2023 17:47

Pugger wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:40

go pak go wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:34

Pugger wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:29

The Jets have the ammo to build around an aging quarterback. We don't.
True but I got the feeling this thread was just comparing the play of Rodgers vs Favre at the age of 39.

doesn't matter Pugger what age we use, Rodgers start to finish is far superior to Favre in just about any skill ya want to use, and this has nothing to do with my feelings for either, Rodgers had just as strong a arm, was/is more accurate, is a quicker thinker, has a better release, isn't prone to making any where near the mistakes Favre did, Favre could probably absorb more physical abuse, but thats about the only thing I can think of.

eventually Rodgers will be ranked up there top 5 all time, Favre will be lucky to be top 20., just my opinion anyway.

Scott4Pack · Post by **Scott4Pack** » 11 Jan 2023 17:52

go pak go wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:34

Pugger wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 16:29

go pak go wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 15:43
I'm I'm the Packers, neither of them.

If I'm the Jets, I would want Aaron Rodgers.

The Jets have the ammo to build around an aging quarterback. We don't.

The Jets got to experience Favre under less than ideal circumstances, before he had his renaissance in Minny.

Scott4Pack · Post by **Scott4Pack** » 11 Jan 2023 17:54

That’s like asking if Reggie Jackson or Ken Griffey Jr is better than the other. Griffey had one of the sweetest swings EVER. And Jackson hit more HRs, but he also struck out more than almost anybody.

As Jackson/Griffey were to baseball, so are Favre/Rodgers to football. Unless you are their HC/OC, it’s really a question without an answer other than personal pref.

I love seeing Rodgers throw the ball. Always have. He’s a passing purist to an elite degree.
I love seeing Favre’s pure love for the game and competition.
I can see winning and/or losing the same amount of games with either one, irregardless of age.

RingoCStarrQB · Post by **RingoCStarrQB** » 11 Jan 2023 17:55

This is easy. It's Brett Favre. Favre was one of very few who no matter what the circumstance was .......... the Packers fans wanted to see Favre play, and play well.

No one can say that about Rodgers. Rodgers is leaving all Packers fans miffed and with a bad taste in their mouths due to his unjustified $59M CY23 contract. And his lack of production in clutch situations the past 3 playoffs under the coaching of LaCoach.

German_Panzer · Post by **German_Panzer** » 12 Jan 2023 09:13

I‘d probably pick Favre. He played pretty good in 2008 till his injury and he was MVPish in 2009. I would not think Rodgers was better this season even before his thumb injury. And Favre got along better with teammates, firing them up better which could also result in a better team overall.

German_Panzer · Post by **German_Panzer** » 12 Jan 2023 09:20

Is there a consensus about their absolute best games? Rodgers I think its the divisional game vs. Atlanta in 2011. I am pretty confident almost all Packers fans could agree, I couldnt think of a more prolific show he had. But Favre? Since I only follow the NFL since 2007 I am not sure.

Pckfn23 · Post by **Pckfn23** » 12 Jan 2023 09:28

Atlanta 2011 might be his best playoff game, might, but there are certainly better games throughout his career:
https://stathead.com/tiny/R95fS

Yoop · Post by **Yoop** » 12 Jan 2023 10:03

when ya compare Aaron and Brett using stat head Rodgers is tops in every category , completion %, rating, money earned, and scowling at receivers for dropping footballs

williewasgreat · Post by **williewasgreat** » 12 Jan 2023 10:19

They were both great QBs when young. Favre at 39 would still do everything he could, including sacrifice his body to win. I don't see Rodgers doing that. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'll take Favre.

Yoop · Post by **Yoop** » 12 Jan 2023 10:28

ehhh, Willie, I think the years help the memory grow fonder, I agree Rodgers has never played the physical part like Favre, it's why he was called Iron man, but when it comes to bone headed passes to end games Favre to me has far more then Rodgers, still both of these QB's in there prime are as good as they come, did very well extending plays and eventually finding the open man, Rodgers foils imo are just more fresh in our minds

Labrev · Post by **Labrev** » 12 Jan 2023 15:58

I misunderstood the OP, let me re-answer...

German_Panzer wrote: ↑
11 Jan 2023 14:39
Who is better? Who would you let play on your team if you had to decide right now?

Right now? Rodgers, quite easily.

Even by the standards of *his* time, Favre threw too many INTs. Today, QBs (not just Rodgers) have to play much more mistake-free football.

For comparison, Dak Prescott and Davis Mills(<-- worst QB in the league of those that started most of the season) tied for the most INTs thrown this season at 15 picks.

Brett Favre's lowest INT season is 2009, when he threw 7 as a Viking, a statistical anomaly in his career. The next lowest are three seasons of 13 INTs, which would tie him with the decaying Matt Ryan this year (but behind ProBowl-bound Josh Allen and kraut corsin, take that fwiw, but also behind Derek Carr who was just benched). Then one year with 14, two years with 15.

And then a whopping 12 seasons with 16 or more. He threw more than 20 INTs in six (SIX!) seasons.

You can't throw that many INTs in today's NFL. If you are gonna throw even 14 INTs, you better make up for it with A LOT of TDs, like Josh Allen's 35. Six QBs have 29 or more TDs, and 14 was on the low end for Favre; he was more likely to throw a lot more.

Labrev · Post by **Labrev** » 12 Jan 2023 16:14

In the end, it's kinda moot because Rodgers has become a playoff choke artist in the same vein as BrINT, only with offensive futility rather than Favre's outright turnovers, but it's semantics, both reliably fail to come through when you needed them to do so most (just in different ways).

But Favre likely does not make it that far in the first place (playoffs, that is) as often in today's NFL as Rodgers has.

I will say this, though, in Favre's favor... when we used to fall behind by 14 points when Favre was our QB, I didn't see the deficit as insurmountable and felt like pretty confident we could comeback if there was still a lot of ballgame left. With Rodgers, coming back from 14 down feels very difficult. He is the opposite extreme of Favre's riskiness, Rodgers is too meticulous/conservative.

This year was actually better than usual, we showed more resilience when falling behind than we usually do, but we regressed hard last Sunday.