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IMO, Unfortunate. I don't see it mentioned anywhere and thought it deserves its own thread

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:45

IMO, Unfortunate

I had a lot of hope for the guy, but his athletic ability just hasn't shown up the same way post-ACL. Some guys come back like nothing ever happened; some don't. Maybe another year of training and healing he'll get some juice back, but I'm not particularly concerned about letting this one walk.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:51

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:45

IMO, Unfortunate

I had a lot of hope for the guy, but his athletic ability just hasn't shown up the same way post-ACL. Some guys come back like nothing ever happened; some don't. Maybe another year of training and healing he'll get some juice back, but I'm not particularly concerned about letting this one walk.

The Packers seem to have not been lucky with the ACL's. Bakh took forever. Jenkins wasn't himself until late in the season.

In the last 2 games of the season, Tonyan had 7 targets, caught 6 for 81 yards and a TD. I know it isn't fair but if he did that over 17 games it would look a lot better.

tonyan was not especially good before this acl injury. He had one season where Rodgers looked for him nonstop in the red zone.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 14:07

tonyan was not especially good before this acl injury. He had one season where Rodgers looked for him nonstop in the red zone.

Tonyan seemed to benefit from the defense losing him. 2020 had him wide open so often.

Then he had a fantastic camp in 2021 and expectations were huge. Problem was it never materialized in 2021 and then he got the ACL injury in late October in AZ.

It is too bad. His arrow was a big up in August 2021. Just never materialized. Football is a funny sport that way.

Drj820 wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 14:07

tonyan was not especially good before this acl injury. He had one season where Rodgers looked for him nonstop in the red zone.

I disagree. Solid athlete (not elite, but good) before the injury, nice size, catches almost everything thrown his way. I think our TB playoff loss changes if 12 looks for him rather than force it to Adams who was double- and triple-covered all game. The next year he was forced into blocking more than receiving due to the patchwork OL, then injury.

I think he could have been a lot more productive with a more TE-friendly QB, and better health.

He looked like he was getting his legs back late last year. We'll see if he turns things around in CHI, they tend to do a better job getting TE production than we do.

The problem now is that Davis, Deguara and a rookie is not inspiring. Rookies have to either learn to block or run routes, very few do both in college

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:51

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:45

IMO, Unfortunate

I had a lot of hope for the guy, but his athletic ability just hasn't shown up the same way post-ACL. Some guys come back like nothing ever happened; some don't. Maybe another year of training and healing he'll get some juice back, but I'm not particularly concerned about letting this one walk.

I'am shocked we let him go, lots of players take a full season to gain the faith needed to make hard cuts after ACL surgery, and Bob was starting to get that faith back towards the end of the season.

true he is not a gifted athlete in the sense we'd like to see at the position, but lewis tutorship on leverage helped Bob become a better blocker, imo he'll be a better player this year then he was last, how much better????

to me this is a sign that we are going to draft a TE, maybe even 1st or 2nd round

I am a bit surprised just because the cost was so low and the position is so bare, but I think they want Deguara and a couple rookies from this class. Maybe with Lewis, too, maybe not. But they’re ready to restock and the draft class is a great place to do it.

Yoop wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 15:15

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:51

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:45

IMO, Unfortunate

I had a lot of hope for the guy, but his athletic ability just hasn't shown up the same way post-ACL. Some guys come back like nothing ever happened; some don't. Maybe another year of training and healing he'll get some juice back, but I'm not particularly concerned about letting this one walk.

I'am shocked we let him go, lots of players take a full season to gain the faith needed to make hard cuts after ACL surgery, and Bob was starting to get that faith back towards the end of the season.

true he is not a gifted athlete in the sense we'd like to see at the position, but lewis tutorship on leverage helped Bob become a better blocker, imo he'll be a better player this year then he was last, how much better????

to me this is a sign that we are going to draft a TE, maybe even 1st or 2nd round

I wasn't shocked we let him go, but I have to say I was surprised we let him walk away for that price. I would have been happy to give him another shot for $2.5 Million.

go pak go wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 15:28

Yoop wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 15:15

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 13:51

I had a lot of hope for the guy, but his athletic ability just hasn't shown up the same way post-ACL. Some guys come back like nothing ever happened; some don't. Maybe another year of training and healing he'll get some juice back, but I'm not particularly concerned about letting this one walk.

I'am shocked we let him go, lots of players take a full season to gain the faith needed to make hard cuts after ACL surgery, and Bob was starting to get that faith back towards the end of the season.

true he is not a gifted athlete in the sense we'd like to see at the position, but lewis tutorship on leverage helped Bob become a better blocker, imo he'll be a better player this year then he was last, how much better????

to me this is a sign that we are going to draft a TE, maybe even 1st or 2nd round

I wasn't shocked we let him go, but I have to say I was surprised we let him walk away for that price. I would have been happy to give him another shot for $2.5 Million.

I assumed they were going to let him walk going into FA but I thought his price would be higher. At that price I'm more surprised they didn't keep him, but I think they are looking for more athleticism. Great draft class for that.

Tonyan was a pretty average TE. He was in year 5 and just never developed a full game. He was useful as a pass catcher but a pretty weak blocker which makes sense given the lack of experience.

The ACL injury was unfortunate but that season he played in 8 games and had just 18 catches and 2 TDs in a Rodgers MVP season.

Deguara is going into year 4 and his ACL injury is far behind him. I still think it was a huge reach in the draft but he’s in the year where TEs start putting it together. On top of that theres opportunity now that we got rid of the inept Mercedes Lewis.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 17:56

Tonyan was a pretty average TE. He was in year 5 and just never developed a full game. He was useful as a pass catcher but a pretty weak blocker which makes sense given the lack of experience.

The ACL injury was unfortunate but that season he played in 8 games and had just 18 catches and 2 TDs in a Rodgers MVP season.

Deguara is going into year 4 and his ACL injury is far behind him. I still think it was a huge reach in the draft but he’s in the year where TEs start putting it together. On top of that theres opportunity now that we got rid of the inept Mercedes Lewis.

Man I was about to say this post was spot on, then you had to add that last sentence, which completely ruined a good post.

Packfntk wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:13

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 17:56

Tonyan was a pretty average TE. He was in year 5 and just never developed a full game. He was useful as a pass catcher but a pretty weak blocker which makes sense given the lack of experience.

The ACL injury was unfortunate but that season he played in 8 games and had just 18 catches and 2 TDs in a Rodgers MVP season.

Deguara is going into year 4 and his ACL injury is far behind him. I still think it was a huge reach in the draft but he’s in the year where TEs start putting it together. On top of that theres opportunity now that we got rid of the inept Mercedes Lewis.

Man I was about to say this post was spot on, then you had to add that last sentence, which completely ruined a good post.

Truth hurts. I mean if Lewis was so good wheres his new team?

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:15

Packfntk wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:13

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 17:56

Tonyan was a pretty average TE. He was in year 5 and just never developed a full game. He was useful as a pass catcher but a pretty weak blocker which makes sense given the lack of experience.

The ACL injury was unfortunate but that season he played in 8 games and had just 18 catches and 2 TDs in a Rodgers MVP season.

Deguara is going into year 4 and his ACL injury is far behind him. I still think it was a huge reach in the draft but he’s in the year where TEs start putting it together. On top of that theres opportunity now that we got rid of the inept Mercedes Lewis.

Man I was about to say this post was spot on, then you had to add that last sentence, which completely ruined a good post.

Truth hurts. I mean if Lewis was so good wheres his new team?

He'll go to the Jets as soon as AR does.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:15

Packfntk wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:13

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 17:56

Tonyan was a pretty average TE. He was in year 5 and just never developed a full game. He was useful as a pass catcher but a pretty weak blocker which makes sense given the lack of experience.

The ACL injury was unfortunate but that season he played in 8 games and had just 18 catches and 2 TDs in a Rodgers MVP season.

Deguara is going into year 4 and his ACL injury is far behind him. I still think it was a huge reach in the draft but he’s in the year where TEs start putting it together. On top of that theres opportunity now that we got rid of the inept Mercedes Lewis.

Man I was about to say this post was spot on, then you had to add that last sentence, which completely ruined a good post.

Truth hurts. I mean if Lewis was so good wheres his new team?

Cuz we got ‘lil big dawg, Darnell Washington, visiting GB today.

BF004 wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 08:40

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:15

Packfntk wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:13

Man I was about to say this post was spot on, then you had to add that last sentence, which completely ruined a good post.

Truth hurts. I mean if Lewis was so good wheres his new team?

Cuz we got ‘lil big dawg, Darnell Washington, visiting GB today.

I’m convinced the Packers are going to dry and get Washington. He’s a young Lewis all the way. I just think Washington might guy late 1st early 2nd. I think teams will like him better than Musgrave or Kincaid. I personally like him better than Mayer too.

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:15

Packfntk wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:13

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 17:56

Tonyan was a pretty average TE. He was in year 5 and just never developed a full game. He was useful as a pass catcher but a pretty weak blocker which makes sense given the lack of experience.

The ACL injury was unfortunate but that season he played in 8 games and had just 18 catches and 2 TDs in a Rodgers MVP season.

Deguara is going into year 4 and his ACL injury is far behind him. I still think it was a huge reach in the draft but he’s in the year where TEs start putting it together. On top of that theres opportunity now that we got rid of the inept Mercedes Lewis.

Man I was about to say this post was spot on, then you had to add that last sentence, which completely ruined a good post.

Truth hurts. I mean if Lewis was so good wheres his new team?

Because at this point he is strictly a blocking TE. I believe there have been opportunities, but he is being selective on situation. I get it, he is a soon to be 39 blocking TE. But he is still very good at his craft. Yeah, and AR will bring him to NYJ.

Packfntk wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 11:24

lupedafiasco wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:15

Packfntk wrote: ↑

21 Mar 2023 07:13

Man I was about to say this post was spot on, then you had to add that last sentence, which completely ruined a good post.

Truth hurts. I mean if Lewis was so good wheres his new team?

Because at this point he is strictly a blocking TE. I believe there have been opportunities, but he is being selective on situation. I get it, he is a soon to be 39 blocking TE. But he is still very good at his craft. Yeah, and AR will bring him to NYJ.

I don’t care how good he is at his craft if the other part of his game is nonexistent. We tip our hand every time he walked in the field.

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2023 14:59

The problem now is that Davis, Deguara and a rookie is not inspiring. Rookies have to either learn to block or run routes, very few do both in college

This is supposed to be a good TE draft so hopefully we can get an upgrade there and let him develop with Love.