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Besides Savage, who plays worse than being drafted at the end of the 1st round and is in his 3rd year or more and did not spend the bulk of his 2nd year on IR?
Savage is bad. Stokes is not a very good CB on top of not even having a place for him to play. Wyatt is a liability in the run game. Clark is not playing well and he didn’t play well last year. He makes huge splash plays but in between he is getting dominated. Quay is making a ton of tackles but there’s no value in them because they’re all 5-8 yards down field. He is trying to run around blocks instead of through them and it’s hurting the run defense. Van Ness isn’t playing well but I expected a Sophomore to struggle early.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:31Besides Savage, who plays worse than being drafted at the end of the 1st round and is in his 3rd year or more and did not spend the bulk of his 2nd year on IR?
Contrast that with Gary, Alexander and Clark who have become over achievers relative to where they were drafted in the first round.
Savage is mediocre, not bad. There are a lot of players in the NFL who are worse.lupedafiasco wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:43Savage is bad. Stokes is not a very good CB on top of not even having a place for him to play. Wyatt is a liability in the run game. Clark is not playing well and he didn’t play well last year. He makes huge splash plays but in between he is getting dominated. Quay is making a ton of tackles but there’s no value in them because they’re all 5-8 yards down field. He is trying to run around blocks instead of through them and it’s hurting the run defense. Van Ness isn’t playing well but I expected a Sophomore to struggle early.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:31Besides Savage, who plays worse than being drafted at the end of the 1st round and is in his 3rd year or more and did not spend the bulk of his 2nd year on IR?
Contrast that with Gary, Alexander and Clark who have become over achievers relative to where they were drafted in the first round.
Gary is a great player on a pitch count. Jaire is a good player but his most recent action he was getting beat.
come on for krist sakeslupedafiasco wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:43Savage is bad. Stokes is not a very good CB on top of not even having a place for him to play. Wyatt is a liability in the run game. Clark is not playing well and he didn’t play well last year. He makes huge splash plays but in between he is getting dominated. Quay is making a ton of tackles but there’s no value in them because they’re all 5-8 yards down field. He is trying to run around blocks instead of through them and it’s hurting the run defense. Van Ness isn’t playing well but I expected a Sophomore to struggle early.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:31Besides Savage, who plays worse than being drafted at the end of the 1st round and is in his 3rd year or more and did not spend the bulk of his 2nd year on IR?
Contrast that with Gary, Alexander and Clark who have become over achievers relative to where they were drafted in the first round.
Gary is a great player on a pitch count. Jaire is a good player but his most recent action he was getting beat.
True, but Wyatt is just starting his 2nd year. He is playing like the late 1st round draft pick that he was.
Once you are out of your 2nd contract it doesn’t matter if you are outplaying your draft pick. You need to play up to or outplay your contract. Clark hasn’t had a good year in a while. I suspect it either because they’ve moved him off the nose or because he plays too many snaps.
The Barry Disease. Tell Murphy to get Dr Fauci out of retirement to sterilize the place. Vaccines, boosters, whatever it takes!Yoop wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 07:23come on for krist sakeslupedafiasco wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:43Savage is bad. Stokes is not a very good CB on top of not even having a place for him to play. Wyatt is a liability in the run game. Clark is not playing well and he didn’t play well last year. He makes huge splash plays but in between he is getting dominated. Quay is making a ton of tackles but there’s no value in them because they’re all 5-8 yards down field. He is trying to run around blocks instead of through them and it’s hurting the run defense. Van Ness isn’t playing well but I expected a Sophomore to struggle early.TheSkeptic wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:31
Besides Savage, who plays worse than being drafted at the end of the 1st round and is in his 3rd year or more and did not spend the bulk of his 2nd year on IR?
Contrast that with Gary, Alexander and Clark who have become over achievers relative to where they were drafted in the first round.
Gary is a great player on a pitch count. Jaire is a good player but his most recent action he was getting beat.
Gary is on a pitch count because he's coming back from a ACL, and Alexander has the Barry disease, it's contagious, everyone has it.
Savage has always been better then the schemes he's asked to play in, he's been one of our best defenders this season.
and why would you expect Quay to make tackles at the los, Barnett never could 20 years ago working in a 2 gap nickel front either.
never understood why people think a 240 lb ILB should be able to run through 320 lb O liners, without getting pushed back into the ILB, which is fair to say as it is what I see, your blaming the lber for the fails of our DC,( or the positional coach Jerry Montgomery).
our problems imho are mostly scheme related, we don't have a defender that wouldn't benefit from better defensive schemes, nada, not one.
Barry makes changes, or Lafleur needs to fire him, no middle ground any more.
Savage has actually been decent this yearTheSkeptic wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 04:31Besides Savage, who plays worse than being drafted at the end of the 1st round and is in his 3rd year or more and did not spend the bulk of his 2nd year on IR?
Contrast that with Gary, Alexander and Clark who have become over achievers relative to where they were drafted in the first round.
Too bad one of them isn't TJ WattRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑04 Oct 2023 22:55Assuming Eric Stokes returns ............ the Packers will have 8 first round draft picks on defense. That's gotta be unprecedented.
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I would imagine that topic was exhausted long before I started posting here. 
Oh it may have come up a time or two...MY_TAKE wrote: ↑06 Oct 2023 15:08Too bad one of them isn't TJ WattRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑04 Oct 2023 22:55Assuming Eric Stokes returns ............ the Packers will have 8 first round draft picks on defense. That's gotta be unprecedented.
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In every thread for a while.APB wrote: ↑06 Oct 2023 15:16Oh it may have come up a time or two...MY_TAKE wrote: ↑06 Oct 2023 15:08Too bad one of them isn't TJ WattRingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑04 Oct 2023 22:55Assuming Eric Stokes returns ............ the Packers will have 8 first round draft picks on defense. That's gotta be unprecedented.
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