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Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 24 Jan 2024 13:47
by NCF

Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 24 Jan 2024 14:08
by lupedafiasco
Had to happen. It might not have been his fault but at least 3 players by my count took hamstring injuries and it happened to one of them twice and Jones said he could feel his about to pull in the 9er game on his big run.

At some point youve gotta be able to get players to recover.

Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 24 Jan 2024 14:18
by NCF
lupedafiasco wrote:
24 Jan 2024 14:08
Had to happen. It might not have been his fault but at least 3 players by my count took hamstring injuries and it happened to one of them twice and Jones said he could feel his about to pull in the 9er game on his big run.

At some point youve gotta be able to get players to recover.
Right. Might not have been his fault, but he did little to solve the problem. Let us not forget he was the assistant during the end of Clay's career and that was super sad to see his abilities dwindle from first ballot HOF guy to just, a guy.

Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 24 Jan 2024 15:01
by BF004


Gotta say, putting his money where his mouth is so far. Can't ask for others to make the hard decisions and sacrifices to improve themselves if his actions showed he's okay with the status quo.

Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 24 Jan 2024 15:14
by Yoop
BF004 wrote:
24 Jan 2024 15:01


Gotta say, putting his money where his mouth is so far. Can't ask for others to make the hard decisions and sacrifices to improve themselves if his actions showed he's okay with the status quo.
right, like whats happening, fixing whats broken, Players make so much money this is a all year job, remember Lacy ballooning weight, better off season monitoring, obviously thats not going to cure everything, but we need to do better then this.

Watson I read wants to get outside advice about his hamstrings.

Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 24 Jan 2024 17:03
by wallyuwl
I have been saying for years (on here) these non-contact soft tissue injuries could be helped (prevented?) by doing eccentric training.

This past summer one of the keynote speakers at a biomechanics conference i attended was a UW Madison faculty who works on hamstring injuries with athletics dept. The presentation focused on how they utiluze eccentric training as prevention and recovery from strains.

Now, Packers sending Watson and Stokes to Madison to see what the deal is with their hamstring problems.

Gizzi shoukd have known what to try. This is part of why he is gone.


Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 26 Jan 2024 16:33
by TheSkeptic
wallyuwl wrote:
24 Jan 2024 17:03
I have been saying for years (on here) these non-contact soft tissue injuries could be helped (prevented?) by doing eccentric training.

This past summer one of the keynote speakers at a biomechanics conference i attended was a UW Madison faculty who works on hamstring injuries with athletics dept. The presentation focused on how they utiluze eccentric training as prevention and recovery from strains.

Now, Packers sending Watson and Stokes to Madison to see what the deal is with their hamstring problems.

Gizzi shoukd have known what to try. This is part of why he is gone.

Correct, this calls for a sports medicine specialist, not a strength and conditioning coach. And it should have been done years ago. Gizzi should have demanded it.

Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 26 Jan 2024 17:14
by wallyuwl
TheSkeptic wrote:
26 Jan 2024 16:33

Correct, this calls for a sports medicine specialist, not a strength and conditioning coach. And it should have been done years ago. Gizzi should have demanded it.
Kind of. A good S&C coach should know the importance of eccentric training for injury prevention. They should know how eccentric training can increase in-series sarcomere number, and the theory of how that can reduce muscle strains. He should have known at least enough to know what he didn't know and learn more ir seek out info from others.

Most sports medicine people (ATs, PTs, even ortho physicians) have no idea about the above. But muscle biomechanists and muscle physiologists would.

Re: Chris Gizzi is reportedly out

Posted: 31 Jan 2024 07:42
by TheSkeptic
wallyuwl wrote:
26 Jan 2024 17:14
TheSkeptic wrote:
26 Jan 2024 16:33

Correct, this calls for a sports medicine specialist, not a strength and conditioning coach. And it should have been done years ago. Gizzi should have demanded it.
Kind of. A good S&C coach should know the importance of eccentric training for injury prevention. They should know how eccentric training can increase in-series sarcomere number, and the theory of how that can reduce muscle strains. He should have known at least enough to know what he didn't know and learn more ir seek out info from others.

Most sports medicine people (ATs, PTs, even ortho physicians) have no idea about the above. But muscle biomechanists and muscle physiologists would.
Exactly. We all should learn what we don't know and never be afraid to ask for advice and help. He didn't and so he is gone. And I am glad that Watson has gone outside the Packers for help.