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Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 09:57
by BF004
$12,472,000 for 2025, fully guaranteed contract. Need to decide sometime before the draft.
Might end up being about 4.5% of the ‘25 cap.
https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-fr ... und-picks/
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 10:51
by NCF
Not a chance in hell.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 11:26
by Crazylegs Starks
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 11:34
by RingoCStarrQB
He's lucky he's still collecting a paycheck from the Packers.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 12:11
by Yoop
this is why injury to first contract players ruins the ability to get a solid grade on them before your dealing with should we or shouldn't we lock up that 5th option, Stokes has been hurt to often and showed growing pains when he did play, 12 mil is a lot to gamble with, I have to doubt we do it.
same with Bahktiari, no way I gamble another 20 plus mil with him either, risk/reward is un balanced for both
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 12:24
by musclestang
Not a chance.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 13:25
by lupedafiasco
Hopefully the team learned from rewarding Savage with an option he didn’t deserve.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 14:07
by Labrev
Easy decline. It is a lot of money for a player who we cannot count on staying healthy, and when he has been able to get on the field, has not looked any good.
Absolute best case at this point is he stays healthy this year and plays well. Then you can offer him a "prove it" deal to see if he can do it again, and if he does, then maybe you keep him around more long-term and he lives up to the draft pick. A highly unlikely scenario, but not a hopeless one.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 14:38
by Scott4Pack
He doesn't have enough snaps to warrent 12 million of anything, let alone dollars. Let him play the year. If he manages to get to 80% or more of the snaps and plays well enough, then look to give him an extension. Otherwise, nah.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 24 Feb 2024 22:35
by lupedafiasco
The health is not a problem for me for Stokes. When healthy he isn’t a good player. He can’t find the ball. He doesn’t do well at the receivers stem. His feet go all over the place and he gets set off balance. That was my evaluation on him in college and it hasn’t changed. If you try to throw over the top on him he won’t allow it. But anything that breaks in or out he gets pan fried noodles.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 25 Feb 2024 08:13
by BF004
What all goes into the dollar value?
Given Savage was like 11 or so, guess I was expecting Stokes’s number to be higher.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 25 Feb 2024 08:14
by TheSkeptic
No. Too much money and too much of a gamble on his health.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 25 Feb 2024 08:51
by APB
What [mention]lupedafiasco[/mention] said.
His health risk isn't the deciding factor; his lack of pay-at-a-premium talent is.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 25 Feb 2024 10:06
by NCF
BF004 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2024 08:13
What all goes into the dollar value?
Given Savage was like 11 or so, guess I was expecting Stokes’s number to be higher.
Pay
The amount of a player’s fifth-year option is based on position, playing time, and Pro Bowl selections. Starting off with players making two or more Pro Bowls, their fifth year option is the same as the franchise tag salary at their position from the previous year. If a player makes one Pro Bowl, their fifth-year option is the same amount as the transition tag. The other designation is for players who are on the field for 75% of the teams offensive or defensive snaps in two of their first three seasons, have 50% of the snaps played in each of the three seasons, or a 75% average over all three seasons. Those players are in the average of the 3rd to 20th highest paid players at that position. For those who do not meet the snap criteria, it is the average of the 3rd to the 25th highest paid players at the position.
https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2 ... s-steelers
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 25 Feb 2024 11:12
by lake shark
Stokes may make improvements in Hafley’s scheme with more press man coverage. I don’t see the Packers using the 5th year. Too much risk.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 26 Feb 2024 06:44
by RingoCStarrQB
Let him go to the Chargers. Maybe he can flourish there as did Casey Hayward. Maybe ..............
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 26 Feb 2024 08:13
by Cdragon
He's done nothing to warrant his current salary let alone guarantee him 5-6 times that money next year. If he breaks out and has a monster year, you can use franchise tag on him for roughly the same money, if you used your 5th year option. Make sure he's the real deal before you give him anything more.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 26 Feb 2024 08:51
by wallyuwl
RingoCStarrQB wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024 06:44
Let him go to the Chargers. Maybe he can flourish there as did Casey Hayward. Maybe ..............
Or Bills. Difference is, Hayward and Hyde were really good players in GB before moving on. Stokes sucks.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 26 Feb 2024 09:02
by Yoop
football doldrums brings on these conversations, obviously Stokes will get hashed out this coming season, we have zero need to pick up the 5th year option, he hasn't played ever above next seasons positional tag money, so why fret over it
Amarius Mims 6.7 340 lbs best way to keep Toms at RT is to draft a better prospect then him to play LT, and Mims could end up as the best tackle in this class, he'll be a player I watch at the combine.
Re: Eric Stokes 5th Year Option
Posted: 26 Feb 2024 09:15
by Labrev
Yoop wrote: ↑26 Feb 2024 09:02
best way to keep Toms at RT is to draft a better prospect then him to play there,
That would seem like the best way to
move "Toms" from RT.
