TB - #57, 124 & 2025 2nd
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Backthepack4ever
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I think @NCF is up.
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YoHoChecko
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Thing fell pretty terribly for the Ravens; they need a RT or starting G and a C was the only OL left. EDGE is a need and the top 2 remaining targets for this range just came off the board. Could reach for Lassiter or Rakestraw at CB but nah--I think they'd like either guy in the 2nd, though. Went with Jordan Morgan.
Anyway, @BF004 is up for the 49ers
Anyway, @BF004 is up for the 49ers
Buffalo willing to move up a few spots.
Got a lot of late rounders, so whatever two later ones can get me, speak up if you wanna move to back to 44.
Got a lot of late rounders, so whatever two later ones can get me, speak up if you wanna move to back to 44.
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YoHoChecko
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Keep is simple, Deal!
Didn’t love double dipping at WR already for LAC, but WR best value for need yet. But Nabers and Franklin would be a fun duo.
@YoHoChecko otc
@YoHoChecko otc
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YoHoChecko
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And to @Backthepack4ever
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Backthepack4ever
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@YoHoChecko OTC
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YoHoChecko
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Dang Legette was def going to KC if you hadn't swiped him, NCF (yes, even with AD Mitchell in round one)
This is probably better for them, though. Developmental left tackle.
And @Backthepack4ever is bac on the clock
This is probably better for them, though. Developmental left tackle.
And @Backthepack4ever is bac on the clock
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Back to ya @YoHoChecko
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@Backthepack4ever is back up.
Also this exercise is really, to me, pointing out how weak this draft's 2nd/3rd tier really is. They have the firepower up top for the elite of the elite. Top 8-12 picks are going to be awesome.
I'm starting to get the vibe, though, that we're sort of missing that next tier--or it's way smaller than it usually is. The "picks 11-40" tier of players feels like it has around 10 guys in it and then the traditional "late 1st, early 2nd" and the corresponding follow-up tiers "solid 2nd," "late second/early 3rd" are literally like pushed up a whole tier. Everyone I'm looking at feels like they fit better in the next half round or so down.
I had gone into this thinking we (we = football writ large) had a pretty strong overall draft class this year, but I'm not as sure anymore.
It's well-displayed in the WR class where the top 3 are elite of the elite. Brian Thomas, though, is basically the only guy firmly in a "first round" type of tier after that, while guys like AD Mitchell, Lad McConkey, Ricky Pearsal, Xavier Worthy--all of them seem like better fits after pick 50 but they're being pushed up.
Similar in the OTs and EDGE players. OT has 1-3 elite elite, depending on how people feel. But by the end of the first round you're looking at guys like Guyton, who is a protoypical 2nd-round developmental type. Those athletes do often get pushed up, but Jordan Morgan and Tyler Guyton feel more like guys you take in the 45-60 range not in the first round.
And the more I look at this, the more I feel like the missing element is the "solid first rounders after the elites" and then the next tiers aren't deep enough to re-balance it. By Day three, it'll probably feel pretty normal. But these 2nd and 3rd round picks all feel like reaches to me.
Also this exercise is really, to me, pointing out how weak this draft's 2nd/3rd tier really is. They have the firepower up top for the elite of the elite. Top 8-12 picks are going to be awesome.
I'm starting to get the vibe, though, that we're sort of missing that next tier--or it's way smaller than it usually is. The "picks 11-40" tier of players feels like it has around 10 guys in it and then the traditional "late 1st, early 2nd" and the corresponding follow-up tiers "solid 2nd," "late second/early 3rd" are literally like pushed up a whole tier. Everyone I'm looking at feels like they fit better in the next half round or so down.
I had gone into this thinking we (we = football writ large) had a pretty strong overall draft class this year, but I'm not as sure anymore.
It's well-displayed in the WR class where the top 3 are elite of the elite. Brian Thomas, though, is basically the only guy firmly in a "first round" type of tier after that, while guys like AD Mitchell, Lad McConkey, Ricky Pearsal, Xavier Worthy--all of them seem like better fits after pick 50 but they're being pushed up.
Similar in the OTs and EDGE players. OT has 1-3 elite elite, depending on how people feel. But by the end of the first round you're looking at guys like Guyton, who is a protoypical 2nd-round developmental type. Those athletes do often get pushed up, but Jordan Morgan and Tyler Guyton feel more like guys you take in the 45-60 range not in the first round.
And the more I look at this, the more I feel like the missing element is the "solid first rounders after the elites" and then the next tiers aren't deep enough to re-balance it. By Day three, it'll probably feel pretty normal. But these 2nd and 3rd round picks all feel like reaches to me.
All the more reason to me to move up.
DeJean, Arnold, Mitchell, Fuaga, Fashanu would be a few names i could see targeting.
DeJean, Arnold, Mitchell, Fuaga, Fashanu would be a few names i could see targeting.
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Great post @YoHoChecko
I agree and have been in the camp of quality this year. Use those extra picks and get your guys. If we don't move up from 25 I want 2 picks early, hopefully two in the 1st. I don't mind some dudes from 40 to 75 but like you said that tier isn't like past seasons. I think we are pricing that with safety off ball backers and rbs here. The Dline and edge is weak weak this year.
Get 2 studs early and find some gems/development guys after
I agree and have been in the camp of quality this year. Use those extra picks and get your guys. If we don't move up from 25 I want 2 picks early, hopefully two in the 1st. I don't mind some dudes from 40 to 75 but like you said that tier isn't like past seasons. I think we are pricing that with safety off ball backers and rbs here. The Dline and edge is weak weak this year.
Get 2 studs early and find some gems/development guys after
I will still voice the contrarian opinion and hope we trade back. Ideally, I would like 4 picks in Round 2. I think there is plenty of value to be had, especially with some of our needs lining up at non-premium positions. I can get on board with trading up if one of those 8-12 guys slides down to late teens or early 20's, but otherwise, what is the point if that desired talent tier isn't there?
The talent assessment may be totally accurate, but outside of punting from this draft into future years, this is the pool that everyone has to pick from. So why give up premium picks to get a guy whose talent is not commensurate with a player taken at comparable slots in previous and future drafts? I would rather have more swings from the uncertain pool hoping that you nail a couple assessments.
I think this exercise has shown me that we really have a shot to get our pick of the litter to fill some of our most pressing holes. That has rarely been the case in previous years with holes on our roster, especially at WR.
The talent assessment may be totally accurate, but outside of punting from this draft into future years, this is the pool that everyone has to pick from. So why give up premium picks to get a guy whose talent is not commensurate with a player taken at comparable slots in previous and future drafts? I would rather have more swings from the uncertain pool hoping that you nail a couple assessments.
I think this exercise has shown me that we really have a shot to get our pick of the litter to fill some of our most pressing holes. That has rarely been the case in previous years with holes on our roster, especially at WR.
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