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MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 21:52
by Crazylegs Starks
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/101 ... for-usc-rb
POSITIVES
— Great acceleration and burst. Flies to and through the second level.
— Home run long speed. Threat to take one all the way at any time.
— Good stop/start explosiveness. Ability to make people miss in space.
— Untapped potential as a pass-catcher. Showed quality hands and ability to win in space in limited reps.
NEGATIVES
— High, upright rushing style saps him of balance and power.
— Below-average vision and conviction as a runner. Needs to press upfield and take what is there more often.
— Unproven pass protector.
— Ball-security issues. Low, loose carriage invites the ball being punched out.
OVERALL
Marshawn Lloyd is a bundle of explosive traits who has not yet channeled that into a complete running back profile.
Lloyd plays with serious burst. To and through the line of scrimmage, Lloyd kicks into top gear instantly. He has the speed to break away and finish those runs in the end zone as well. Lloyd not only ripped off a handful of long runs at USC, but he managed to do the same on a few screens in limited opportunities.
Lloyd also has burst and wiggle at the second level. He isn't as smooth or creative as other backs, but he boasts a raw explosiveness that helps him force missed tackles.
However, Lloyd struggles at the line of scrimmage. He often hesitates when color flashes in a gap, and he does not read the leverage of blocks very well. As a result, Lloyd often takes a beat too long to get upfield or runs himself into his own blockers.
Additionally, it's rare to see Lloyd plunge forward through contact for a safe, efficient gain rather than hunt for the big play on the perimeter. Lloyd's upright rushing style makes it difficult to do that anyway, which may be why he avoids it.
On passing downs, Lloyd is kind of a mystery box. He showed unbelievable explosive potential on screens and flashed solid pass-catching traits otherwise, but he was rarely thrown the ball at USC. He feels like someone with untapped potential in the passing game. Lloyd was also rarely used in pass protection, so he will have a lot to learn there.
Lloyd is a gamble on explosive ability. His adequate size, blazing speed and nimble feet are a combination of traits worth swinging on. At the same time, Lloyd may need time to adjust to pro running schemes and develop his vision as a runner, as well as his third-down skills.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:17
by go pak go
I really wanted Lloyd because I want my #2 back to be the home run hitter. The explosive guy. I didn't want AJ Dillon to be #2 to Jacobs who is just a much better version of Dillon.
I was hoping we would draft a "lightening" type back. Lloyd fits this mold. Very much like the player
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:21
by YoHoChecko
220 at 5'9" is bulky but he doesn't really look/play like that. Interesting; never looked at his weight
I hope that the bouncing habit gets a ton better with a more structured, reliable run blocking unit in front of him. A couple tweaks to his game and he could be something. Durability hasn't been excellent, but he's rotational early and low mileage so it might just be coincidence or a nonfactor for us.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:22
by Pckfn23
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:21
220 at 5'9" is bulky but he doesn't really look/play like that. Interesting; never looked at his weight
I hope that the bouncing habit gets a ton better with a more structured, reliable run blocking unit in front of him. A couple tweaks to his game and he could be something. Durability hasn't been excellent, but he's rotational early and low mileage so it might just be coincidence or a nonfactor for us.
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:24
by YoHoChecko
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:22
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:21
220 at 5'9" is bulky but he doesn't really look/play like that. Interesting; never looked at his weight
I hope that the bouncing habit gets a ton better with a more structured, reliable run blocking unit in front of him. A couple tweaks to his game and he could be something. Durability hasn't been excellent, but he's rotational early and low mileage so it might just be coincidence or a nonfactor for us.
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
I reeeaaalllly thought about it
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:27
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:22
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:21
220 at 5'9" is bulky but he doesn't really look/play like that. Interesting; never looked at his weight
I hope that the bouncing habit gets a ton better with a more structured, reliable run blocking unit in front of him. A couple tweaks to his game and he could be something. Durability hasn't been excellent, but he's rotational early and low mileage so it might just be coincidence or a nonfactor for us.
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
He's as much as Aaron Jones can be if Aaron Jones weighed 35 pounds heavier.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:30
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:27
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:22
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:21
220 at 5'9" is bulky but he doesn't really look/play like that. Interesting; never looked at his weight
I hope that the bouncing habit gets a ton better with a more structured, reliable run blocking unit in front of him. A couple tweaks to his game and he could be something. Durability hasn't been excellent, but he's rotational early and low mileage so it might just be coincidence or a nonfactor for us.
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
He's as much as Aaron Jones can be if Aaron Jones weighed 35 pounds heavier.
Didn't Jones weigh in at 208?
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:31
by kampmanfan4life
Few highlights I saw I liked him. Nothing will matter if he can't fix his fumbling issues
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:38
by RingoCStarrQB
I sure hope the coaching staff is up to the challenge to get the youngest team in the NFL ready to dominate the North. Not just the 2024 crop of rookies. Stokes and Toure need to step up their games. Kicking is still scary.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 22:49
by Drj820
Looks a lot like Aaron Jones on tape to me
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 06:39
by bud fox
Will be good on teams and adds something different to rb group.
Don't see any Jones comparison but looks fast and shifty in open space.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 06:44
by APB
bud fox wrote: ↑27 Apr 2024 06:39
Will be good on teams and adds something different to rb group.
Don't see any Jones comparison but looks fast and shifty in open space.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 08:17
by Labrev
He was definitely one of the more exciting RB prospects in the draft, and he brings some much-needed speed and explosion to our backfield. Good pick!
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 08:20
by paco
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 08:26
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:30
go pak go wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:27
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:22
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
He's as much as Aaron Jones can be if Aaron Jones weighed 35 pounds heavier.
Didn't Jones weigh in at 208?
Yeah 35 is an exaggeration. But definitely moves like Jones. Just bigger and frankly faster top end speed. Jones has a bit more wiggle and squeeze through tight holes
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 08:40
by APB
I really like Lloyd.
Squatty, powerful runner with the ability to make a defender miss in the hole and then accelerate to a top gear almost immediately. He’s also capable as a receiver, provides a viable outlet and can make plays in space.
There’s a part of me that wishes we’d have simply allowed Jones to walk without signing Jacobs to the big contract because Lloyd reminds me of, honestly, Jacobs.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 08:45
by paco
APB wrote: ↑27 Apr 2024 08:40
I really like Lloyd.
Squatty, powerful runner with the ability to make a defender miss in the hole and then accelerate to a top gear almost immediately. He’s also capable as a receiver, provides a viable outlet and can make plays in space.
There’s a part of me that wishes we’d have simply allowed Jones to walk without signing Jacobs to the big contract because Lloyd reminds me of, honestly, Jacobs.
There's a decent dead cap if we just Jacobs after this year, a little over $9M. But it's certainly plausible he's only around for a year. And Dillon definitely isn't guaranteed much of anything.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 08:48
by Waldo
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:22
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:21
220 at 5'9" is bulky but he doesn't really look/play like that. Interesting; never looked at his weight
I hope that the bouncing habit gets a ton better with a more structured, reliable run blocking unit in front of him. A couple tweaks to his game and he could be something. Durability hasn't been excellent, but he's rotational early and low mileage so it might just be coincidence or a nonfactor for us.
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
TBH write ups on him make me think shorter Ryan Grant. Same strengths and weaknesses.
Guy was banged up a lot and lost his hot sauce pretty early, but for a bit there he could house it as well as any RB in the league. One cut and go slasher style that just ran away from everyone.
Jones' big plays include a lot of improvisation, he wasn't really a one cut and go guy. In my years of watching packer football, Jones had the best natural vision of any back GB has had. The guy just found yards, always.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 09:33
by Yoop
Waldo wrote: ↑27 Apr 2024 08:48
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:22
YoHoChecko wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:21
220 at 5'9" is bulky but he doesn't really look/play like that. Interesting; never looked at his weight
I hope that the bouncing habit gets a ton better with a more structured, reliable run blocking unit in front of him. A couple tweaks to his game and he could be something. Durability hasn't been excellent, but he's rotational early and low mileage so it might just be coincidence or a nonfactor for us.
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
TBH write ups on him make me think shorter Ryan Grant. Same strengths and weaknesses.
Guy was banged up a lot and lost his hot sauce pretty early, but for a bit there he could house it as well as any RB in the league. One cut and go slasher style that just ran away from everyone.
Jones' big plays include a lot of improvisation, he wasn't really a one cut and go guy. In my years of watching packer football, Jones had the best natural vision of any back GB has had. The guy just found yards, always.
was hoping #88 or #91 would be a RB, while this is not the name I expected, it seems like Lloyd is exactly the typw we wanted, quick, explosive, think he'll be a great fit.
Agree about Jones, hope this kid has some of that patience to let blocks form and vision to take advantage the way Jones, or Grant did, like this pick.
Re: MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC, 2024 3rd round pick#88
Posted: 27 Apr 2024 09:40
by go pak go
Yoop wrote: ↑27 Apr 2024 09:33
Waldo wrote: ↑27 Apr 2024 08:48
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2024 22:22
Give me an Aaron Jones comparison!
TBH write ups on him make me think shorter Ryan Grant. Same strengths and weaknesses.
Guy was banged up a lot and lost his hot sauce pretty early, but for a bit there he could house it as well as any RB in the league. One cut and go slasher style that just ran away from everyone.
Jones' big plays include a lot of improvisation, he wasn't really a one cut and go guy. In my years of watching packer football, Jones had the best natural vision of any back GB has had. The guy just found yards, always.
was hoping #88 or #91 would be a RB, while this is not the name I expected, it seems like Lloyd is exactly the typw we wanted, quick, explosive, think he'll be a great fit.
Agree about Jones, hope this kid has some of that patience to let blocks form and vision to take advantage the way Jones, or Grant did, like this pick.
Lloyd was exactly the name I expected and wanted.
I was targeting that Tier II and Tier III back because I didn't think we needed to spend a premium Rd 2 on a RB. So the guys I was really targeting going into the draft was:
Marshawn Lloyd - Late Rd 3/Early Rd 4
Isaiah Davis - Late R4/Rd 5
George Holani - Late Rd 5 or later
I really like Isaiah Davis today as well but think other players will be better spent at Rd 5