Championship Weekend

[packman114]

Can't believe Clete Blakeman is the referee for a championship game. Bills-Chiefs will take 5 hours to play with him calling holding on every freaking play. How do they freaking rate these guys?

[Pckfn23]

AVERAGING almost 16 per game. The guys' crew is a joke.

[Labrev]

Well then, the fix is in. Chiefs roll.

[Yoop]

Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 18:16
I'm at the point where, until the Chiefs lose, I'm just going to assume that the next Super Bowl Champion will be....the Chiefs.

Papa may have nailed, the 12th man is a huge advantage something has to be done, the games should not be decided by officials

[Papa John]

Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 18:16
I'm at the point where, until the Chiefs lose, I'm just going to assume that the next Super Bowl Champion will be....the Chiefs.

Papa may have nailed, the 12th man is a huge advantage something has to be done, the games should not be decided by officials

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

[APB]

I wanna see Buffalo absolutely embarrass the Chiefs this wknd and then go on to win their first SB. They are an organization long overdue in quality teams/zero SBs.

[go pak go]

Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 18:16
I'm at the point where, until the Chiefs lose, I'm just going to assume that the next Super Bowl Champion will be....the Chiefs.

Papa may have nailed, the 12th man is a huge advantage something has to be done, the games should not be decided by officials

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

I have a hard time reconciling the difference "team is so resiliant they just find ways to win" to "the ball always bounces their way"

No question New England and Kansas City are dominant teams and dynasties. But I also don' think they're fundamentally that much more dominant than other top teams in their era. They just have a lot of balls and calls bounce their way over the years.

Like look at how history changes things based on this call.

[go pak go]

I wanna see Buffalo absolutely embarrass the Chiefs this wknd and then go on to win their first SB. They are an organization long overdue in quality teams/zero SBs.

Agreed. I want to see teams that deserve it win it. I prefer that over the underdog stories quite frankly.

[Pckfn23]

Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 18:16
I'm at the point where, until the Chiefs lose, I'm just going to assume that the next Super Bowl Champion will be....the Chiefs.

Papa may have nailed, the 12th man is a huge advantage something has to be done, the games should not be decided by officials

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

I have a hard time reconciling the difference "team is so resiliant they just find ways to win" to "the ball always bounces their way"

No question New England and Kansas City are dominant teams and dynasties. But I also don' think they're fundamentally that much more dominant than other top teams in their era. They just have a lot of balls and calls bounce their way over the years.

Like look at how history changes things based on this call.

Brady might not be Brady if it wasn't for the tuck rule game.

[Cdragon]

Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 18:16
I'm at the point where, until the Chiefs lose, I'm just going to assume that the next Super Bowl Champion will be....the Chiefs.

Papa may have nailed, the 12th man is a huge advantage something has to be done, the games should not be decided by officials

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

Actually I was looking at the Chiefs like Lombardi's last SB team. Winning on muscle memory. Not as strong as previous champions. And I don't want them to 3-peat.

[Yoop]

Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 18:16
I'm at the point where, until the Chiefs lose, I'm just going to assume that the next Super Bowl Champion will be....the Chiefs.

Papa may have nailed, the 12th man is a huge advantage something has to be done, the games should not be decided by officials

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

I have a hard time reconciling the difference "team is so resiliant they just find ways to win" to "the ball always bounces their way"

No question New England and Kansas City are dominant teams and dynasties. But I also don' think they're fundamentally that much more dominant than other top teams in their era. They just have a lot of balls and calls bounce their way over the years.

Like look at how history changes things based on this call.

NE cheated, it's on record they cheated to win some games lol, I agree there is such a thing as lady luck, but for cripe sakes that bitch seems in charge of the officiating and rents space in Andy's attic, it appears they require her to make an appearance in every big game, I'am also pulling hard for Buffalo to end that dominance.

[Willink]

I wanna see Buffalo absolutely embarrass the Chiefs this wknd and then go on to win their first SB. They are an organization long overdue in quality teams/zero SBs.

I will go to the parade if they win. Family are Bills fans, watched my dad yell at the tv too many times over my life

Looked kind of suspect against Baltimore but probably most confident of any team going into Arrowhead.

In the NFC, HTTR, gives us that 1992 rematch.

[Papa John]

Papa John wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025 18:16
I'm at the point where, until the Chiefs lose, I'm just going to assume that the next Super Bowl Champion will be....the Chiefs.

Papa may have nailed, the 12th man is a huge advantage something has to be done, the games should not be decided by officials

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

I have a hard time reconciling the difference "team is so resiliant they just find ways to win" to "the ball always bounces their way"

No question New England and Kansas City are dominant teams and dynasties. But I also don' think they're fundamentally that much more dominant than other top teams in their era. They just have a lot of balls and calls bounce their way over the years.

Like look at how history changes things based on this call.

I will add more when I have more time later, but this is nonsense. Complete cope.

[Yoop]

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

I have a hard time reconciling the difference "team is so resiliant they just find ways to win" to "the ball always bounces their way"

No question New England and Kansas City are dominant teams and dynasties. But I also don' think they're fundamentally that much more dominant than other top teams in their era. They just have a lot of balls and calls bounce their way over the years.

Like look at how history changes things based on this call.

I will add more when I have more time later, but this is nonsense. Complete cope.

Seeing a scrappy underdog outplay a super team--then watching them get kneecapped with very subjective penalties at key moments--just makes it all feel like professional wrestling after a while.

saw this in the comments at Yahoo, sorta how I feel after watching some games, and one reason why I think something has to change or people will quit watching games, this also shows the wide discrepancy between KC and their opponents with penalties

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/chiefs-bon ... 10288.html

[APB]

this also shows the wide discrepancy between KC and their opponents with penalties

https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-bonkers ... 10288.html

This link needs to be highlighted as a stand-alone point.

The Chiefs get way too many calls go their way. I'd even argue they get those calls at some of the most critical points of games and the call often directly impacts the outcome...largely in favor of the Chiefs.

[Scott4Pack]

Redskins all the way!!!!!!

[Papa John]

The officiating is a factor, but also they are just a superior team. They are so resilient and always find a way to win. The Eagles had a bit of that quality in the NFC this year. I'd love to see a rematch. I think the Super Bowl will be great this year, regardless of the matchup.

I have a hard time reconciling the difference "team is so resiliant they just find ways to win" to "the ball always bounces their way"

No question New England and Kansas City are dominant teams and dynasties. But I also don' think they're fundamentally that much more dominant than other top teams in their era. They just have a lot of balls and calls bounce their way over the years.

Like look at how history changes things based on this call.

I will add more when I have more time later, but this is nonsense. Complete cope.

So in essence, you are saying that resiliency is a mythical concept and that luck is what's really important. That is complete hogwash. There is a reason why every single successful coach takes pride in his team's resiliency. Invariably, it is one of the first things mentioned when any coach hoists the Lombardi.

I am saying this moreso in reference to New England. Sure, they had the ball bounce their way a fair number of times. But they also had to overcome plenty of unfortunate circumstances! The no-hold call during the Tyree catch. The Manningham catch. Even the Seahawks had them on the ropes with a deadly completion late in the 4th quarter of that Super Bowl. But the difference between you and me is that you probably believe that the Malcolm Butler INT was complete luck and that they just "had the ball bounce their way." Yes, they were lucky that Seattle made such a bone headed play call. But I'd argue that it is more important that they were prepared and savvy enough to take advantage of that luck.

You don't win 6 championships in 19 years because of luck. That entire Patriots organization- from Kraft all the way down to the janitor deflating the footballs- was very rich in leadership. They had smart players and coaches. And they had one of the most competitive-minded HC-QB duos of all time. There is no other team of that entire era that maintained a winning culture the way that they did. It should be no surprise that they won as many Super Bowls as they did.

[lupedafiasco]

Good lord Saquan is good.

[Yoop]

this also shows the wide discrepancy between KC and their opponents with penalties

https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-bonkers ... 10288.html

This link needs to be highlighted as a stand-alone point.

The Chiefs get way too many calls go their way. I'd even argue they get those calls at some of the most critical points of games and the call often directly impacts the outcome...largely in favor of the Chiefs.

50% less penalties than there opponents, your right, some look obviously to affect scoring outcomes, looks rigged, hurts the brand.

and finally the league is taking notice on Mahomes and other QB's turning the slide into a automatic penalty if ya treat them like the RB they became, it's become a unfair advantage, instant replay on it was a good move.

[Papa John]

I want the Skins to win this but it just looks like the Eagles have too much firepower for them to overcome. Build a team around JD and Washington is going to be a problem.