Rank the Draft Pick #1: Round 1

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Who Is Your #1 Selection if Available at 23?

Poll ended at 19 Mar 2025 10:24

Tetairoa McMillan - Wide Reciever (Arizona)
6
35%
Matthew Golden - Wide Reciever (Texas)
0
No votes
Luther Burden III - Wide Receiver (Missouri)
0
No votes
Walter Nolen - Defensive Tackle (Mississipi)
0
No votes
Kenneth Grant - Defensive Tackle (Michigan)
3
18%
Derrick Harmon - Defensive Tackle (Oregon)
4
24%
James Pearce - Edge (Tennessee)
0
No votes
Mike Green - Edge (Marshal)
0
No votes
Shemar Stewart - Edge (Texas A&M)
1
6%
Will Johnson - Cornerback (Michigan)
3
18%
Shavon Revel - Cornerback (East Carolina)
0
No votes
Jahdae Barron - Cornerback (Texas)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 17

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A little quiet here.

Wondering if we can do an excerise called "Rank the Draft Pick". Effectively we will provide 3 options of players in the top 4 to 5 position groups that could potentially be available to the Packers at Round 1 and see how we see them.

For this Round 1 Poll, I am going to include the top 3 players by:

1. Wide Receiver
2. Defensive Tackle
3. Edge
4. Cornerback

I am not going to include players are who are likely consensus Top 5 picks. I may include some who could be a top 10 pick but could also slide.

Like Rank the Roster, each person can vote for up to two players.
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Wildcard:

Is there any player not on this list or these position groups that you would run the card up if available?

Example: is there tight end, RB, safety, Tackle, you would draft if available ahead of any of these guys?
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This one is tough. I like the top 2 wrs but I don't see them being Jefferson or chase.

Went with the Michigan guys Grant and Johnson. I think both have all pro talents esp grant

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Pre-FA, CB to me was hands-down the top need for us. With the Hobbs signing? It's still in-play for me early, but I don't think we need a rookie CB who has to start games for us this coming season.

I can't get over how much Derrick Harmon makes sense for us. We need guys that get after the both the run and pass (at *both* DT spots; we are not a two-gap scheme anymore). Harmon is big and strong enough not to get bullied in the run, but he is going to try to knife through guys, not just eat blocks.

We never found a stud DT since drafting Clark, and he is about washed now. We need to change that, sooner than later.
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Pre-FA, CB to me was hands-down the top need for us. With the Hobbs signing? It's still in-play for me early, but I don't think we need a rookie CB who has to start games for us this coming season.

I can't get over how much Derrick Harmon makes sense for us. We need guys that get after the both the run and pass (at *both* DT spots; we are not a two-gap scheme anymore). Harmon is big and strong enough not to get bullied in the run, but he is going to try to knife through guys, not just eat blocks.

We never found a stud DT since drafting Clark, and he is about washed now. We need to change that, sooner than later.
I flip flop between Harmon and Grant all the time.

Harmon was insane with interior pressures at Oregon. He could be a problem and I like the Wyatt and Harmon duo after 2025. But Harmon's run defense was definitely not as good at Oregon as it was at Michigan State when he played bigger.

What this tells me is Harmon can do both but is it one or the other or can he effectively do both well at the same time?

Grant on the other hand is huge. I love huge. He can also move. I believe our defense is more designed for 1 gap pressure which leads me to like Harmon more. But if both reach their ceiling....my gawd would I love the size of Grant.

I think Grant has a higher floor because he will likely be a great run stopper even if he can't excel in pass rush whereas I think Harmon will be more disappointing if he can't find his pass rush in the league. OTH, I think there are other options of run stuffing DTs only in this draft on Day 3. Guys like CJ West could step in and be the new TJ Slaton.
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17 Mar 2025 11:13
This one is tough. I like the top 2 wrs but I don't see them being Jefferson or chase.

Went with the Michigan guys Grant and Johnson. I think both have all pro talents esp grant
It's very tough. I don't have a true draft crush this year. I like a lot of them.

In the end though, I love, love, love big boys. And I really love big boys who can move.

I went with Grant and McMillan as both have the size that could lead to really high ceilings.
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go pak go wrote:
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Labrev wrote:
17 Mar 2025 11:35
Pre-FA, CB to me was hands-down the top need for us. With the Hobbs signing? It's still in-play for me early, but I don't think we need a rookie CB who has to start games for us this coming season.

I can't get over how much Derrick Harmon makes sense for us. We need guys that get after the both the run and pass (at *both* DT spots; we are not a two-gap scheme anymore). Harmon is big and strong enough not to get bullied in the run, but he is going to try to knife through guys, not just eat blocks.

We never found a stud DT since drafting Clark, and he is about washed now. We need to change that, sooner than later.
I flip flop between Harmon and Grant all the time.

Harmon was insane with interior pressures at Oregon. He could be a problem and I like the Wyatt and Harmon duo after 2025. But Harmon's run defense was definitely not as good at Oregon as it was at Michigan State when he played bigger.

What this tells me is Harmon can do both but is it one or the other or can he effectively do both well at the same time?

Grant on the other hand is huge. I love huge. He can also move. I believe our defense is more designed for 1 gap pressure which leads me to like Harmon more. But if both reach their ceiling....my gawd would I love the size of Grant.

I think Grant has a higher floor because he will likely be a great run stopper even if he can't excel in pass rush whereas I think Harmon will be more disappointing if he can't find his pass rush in the league. OTH, I think there are other options of run stuffing DTs only in this draft on Day 3. Guys like CJ West could step in and be the new TJ Slaton.
Normally I go for the high-upside and elite athleticism guys, which in this case is Grant, and he does also make a lot of sense for us. I certainly do not hate that pick at all for us.

But I think we need a mindset shift at DT, and I think Harmon can be coached to use his strengths as an interior penetrator to make plays against the run. I doubt he'll ever be an immovable object like Grant is, but I think we need to get away from those and towards guys who just get after the football on all three downs.
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go pak go wrote:
17 Mar 2025 12:08
Backthepack4ever wrote:
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This one is tough. I like the top 2 wrs but I don't see them being Jefferson or chase.

Went with the Michigan guys Grant and Johnson. I think both have all pro talents esp grant
It's very tough. I don't have a true draft crush this year. I like a lot of them.

In the end though, I love, love, love big boys. And I really love big boys who can move.

I went with Grant and McMillan as both have the size that could lead to really high ceilings.
As TT said,"the good Lord only made so many big guys" I think it will most likely be a defensive lineman with our pick as well.

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I dont even know Grant is the best DT on this list.
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lupedafiasco wrote:
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I dont even know Grant is the best DT on this list.
I don't either. Would love to get your thoughts on them. I do believe my top four are:

Graham, Nolan, Grant, Harmon.
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go pak go wrote:
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I dont even know Grant is the best DT on this list.
I don't either. Would love to get your thoughts on them. I do believe my top four are:

Graham, Nolan, Grant, Harmon.
I’m really not a fan of the NT types in the early rounds. On occasion you do have those that still provide a pass rush like Lawrence or Vea. Most of the time you get a guy like Jordan Davis. He’s good at what he does but on critical downs or passing downs he’s pulled off the field for the faster more agile DTs and you look back of the season realizing you got minimal value for a 1st round pick.

Even when we picked Kenny. I liked the player but hated taking a NT that early. Meanwhile just 10 picks a more athletic player that can 3 and 5 tech gets picked by the name of Chris Jones.

Basically just get the game wrecking 3 tech early and wait for the big NT you are only going to play a 3rd of the snaps for anyways.
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I went with McMillian, even though I wish he had better speed, but he's big, rangy, and hard to defend, and fits Guty size preference, it was, I like Golden's speed, but he seems too much like a Reed clone, except obviously higher floor

I went with Harmon too, better pass rush ability than I see from the others, while still stout against the run.

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My gosh, if Tet was anywhere near us you take him and laugh your way to the Super Bowl.
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Packfntk wrote:
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My gosh, if Tet was anywhere near us you take him and laugh your way to the Super Bowl.
Honestly I am seeing more momentum of McMillian falling. I think Kiper's last mock had Tet going to LAC at 22?

But if I were a betting man, this is a classic case of "looks like he will fall and then goes in the top 10 like we initially thought in January"
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For sure. No way he’s coming down in our area, but if he does slip, Gutemonster better be sleeping with whoever is at the spot where he can trade up to.
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Grant is number 1 on my wish list for our pick.

Still shocked seeing him mocked like 25 every now and then, have a hard time thinking he gets past 15.


Derrick Harmon is the ‘most mocked to us’ on the consensus mock draft board. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mo ... draft-2025
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Derrick Harmon is the ‘most mocked to us’ on the consensus mock draft board. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mo ... draft-2025
Very interesting that Jahdae Barron has no consensus team. Maybe we do have a shot at him? This is how guys fall on draft day.

He'd be the only guy other than Harmon who would interest me a lot, of the players available here. Some minor interest in Ezeiruaku, Hairston, Burden and Egbuka there, too.
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I’m starting to lean into edge being the must pick. DT is an absolute need next year. For this season you still have Wyatt, Clark, Brooks, and Wooden. You can get away with The first 3 as your base rotation.

Right now you need an edge. You can’t just rely on LVN to hit that year 3 jump. We need an answer.
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BF004 wrote:
18 Mar 2025 06:10
Grant is number 1 on my wish list for our pick.

Still shocked seeing him mocked like 25 every now and then, have a hard time thinking he gets past 15.


Derrick Harmon is the ‘most mocked to us’ on the consensus mock draft board. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mo ... draft-2025
figures, he seems a perfect fit for us, decent run stopper with very good pass rush potential, which makes him a 3 dn player, Clark isn't getting any younger, and Harmon seems like a Kenny clone :idn:

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lupedafiasco wrote:
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I’m starting to lean into edge being the must pick. DT is an absolute need next year. For this season you still have Wyatt, Clark, Brooks, and Wooden. You can get away with The first 3 as your base rotation.

Right now you need an edge. You can’t just rely on LVN to hit that year 3 jump. We need an answer.
I thought we were bringing in Hendrickson, no? :lol:

you might be right, but most mocks have the best edge going early with quality DT's going into round two.

this is the best DT class in years according to scouts, normally I wouldn't take one in round one after the best of the bunch is gone by top 15 slots, this year is different. jmo

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