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NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 16 Apr 2025 08:51
by NCF
Here is my BIG BOARD that I put together to share. Is pretty much based of Dane Brugler's BEAST. I modified the Top 100 to my preferences, but the rest is pretty much just where he had guys graded. You can see he has a wealth of mid-round guys, more than can be drafted, so keep that in mind. I would almost look at it more like Rounds 4-5 are draftable grades and Rounds 5-6 or more PFA's. Added everything else I could including reported visits, Packers athletic thresholds, and age and RAS score qualifiers and disqualifiers.


Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 16 Apr 2025 09:00
by YoHoChecko
Trying to wrap my eyes around all the different codes... but a question: what doesn't Sai'vion Jones hit for Packers thresholds? He's like a carbon copy of our edge preferences and is super young. Is it because he didn't do the agility drills?
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Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 16 Apr 2025 09:16
by NCF
YoHoChecko wrote:
16 Apr 2025 09:00
Trying to wrap my eyes around all the different codes... but a question: what doesn't Sai'vion Jones hit for Packers thresholds? He's like a carbon copy of our edge preferences and is super young. Is it because he didn't do the agility drills?

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Good catch. I just missed him.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025 ... nsive-line

Edit: File updated.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 16 Apr 2025 09:34
by YoHoChecko
NCF wrote:
16 Apr 2025 09:16
YoHoChecko wrote:
16 Apr 2025 09:00
Trying to wrap my eyes around all the different codes... but a question: what doesn't Sai'vion Jones hit for Packers thresholds? He's like a carbon copy of our edge preferences and is super young. Is it because he didn't do the agility drills?

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Good catch. I just missed him.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025 ... nsive-line

Edit: File updated.
Oh! I wasn't trying to nitpick, just curious. But I'm glad it ended this way.

Thanks for posting! I'll need to look more into some of these guys who haven't been on my radar as much. Like Tyleik Williams.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 16 Apr 2025 11:27
by Labrev
There are lots of guys in this draft for whom I love the talent, but need to trust they will put in the work. I am glad GB is meeting with a lot of the specific guys I have in mind: Stewart, Nolen, Tet, etc. Would love to have them if I feel assured that they will give 110%.

I liked Drake London coming out but haven't quite loved Tet the same way, even though that's his comp. I could never quite figure out why, but now I think I am after watching a video from Bootleg Football. Tet slow-plays his first 10 yards off the LOS. It's weird. It has worked for him in college, but NFL corners are going to be all over that. There is a lack of violence and urgency in Tet that was not similarly an issue for me with London. So you need to trust that he will shift his mindset when he gets to the NFL, and will still produce like he was before. Not saying he can't, but that feels pretty risky.

I would need the interview to go well for me to do it. I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).


In truth, I have been persuaded over time that this is actually the most important factor for the success of players in the league, however they got there, above all else. Above existing skill-level/floor, above raw talent/ceiling. It's the person that matters most. With team fit being a very close second.

And that is the least visible part of this process to us as onlookers, haha. Go figure.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 17 Apr 2025 18:20
by Backthepack4ever
Awesome share. Not much to add

Tet is not a blue or red for me on reasons why you shared. He has wr#1 but not a top 10 in the NFL talent to me.

One guy I think will be an all pro you moved down. Wyatt Milum.talk about the next josh sitton. Mean nasty technically sound grinder. Might be the safest plug and play 10 year interior OL on this draft. I'll actually stand by that ha. This kid is tough as nails. Best punch in the draft

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 08:00
by YoHoChecko
Backthepack4ever wrote:
17 Apr 2025 18:20
One guy I think will be an all pro you moved down. Wyatt Milum.talk about the next josh sitton. Mean nasty technically sound grinder. Might be the safest plug and play 10 year interior OL on this draft. I'll actually stand by that ha. This kid is tough as nails. Best punch in the draft
Man I dunno about that guy for us. I keep hearing this stuff, but I feel like he's more of a power player than our more athletic type. I know he technically meets some of the thresholds, but I'm not sure his move inside will be natural. And his pass pro is far below his run blocking, which isn't ideal for the NFL. I think he's a lot more scheme-dependent than he's being advertised.

I concur with moving him down.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 08:02
by YoHoChecko
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).


In truth, I have been persuaded over time that this is actually the most important factor for the success of players in the league, however they got there, above all else. Above existing skill-level/floor, above raw talent/ceiling. It's the person that matters most. With team fit being a very close second.
Wild combination of thoughts right there.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 08:38
by Labrev
YoHoChecko wrote:
18 Apr 2025 08:02
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).


In truth, I have been persuaded over time that this is actually the most important factor for the success of players in the league, however they got there, above all else. Above existing skill-level/floor, above raw talent/ceiling. It's the person that matters most. With team fit being a very close second.
Wild combination of thoughts right there.
Woah hey, you left out the most important thought in the combo!
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
And that is the least visible part of this process to us as onlookers, haha. Go figure.
:aok:

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 09:00
by Backthepack4ever
YoHoChecko wrote:
18 Apr 2025 08:00
Backthepack4ever wrote:
17 Apr 2025 18:20
One guy I think will be an all pro you moved down. Wyatt Milum.talk about the next josh sitton. Mean nasty technically sound grinder. Might be the safest plug and play 10 year interior OL on this draft. I'll actually stand by that ha. This kid is tough as nails. Best punch in the draft
Man I dunno about that guy for us. I keep hearing this stuff, but I feel like he's more of a power player than our more athletic type. I know he technically meets some of the thresholds, but I'm not sure his move inside will be natural. And his pass pro is far below his run blocking, which isn't ideal for the NFL. I think he's a lot more scheme-dependent than he's being advertised.

I concur with moving him down.
Where did you hear his pass pro is far below his run blocking? I think it's better. 0 (zero) sacks allowed his finial 3 years and only 3 as a freshman. His pressures are extremely low also. I have no concern in his pass pro. He gets over extended more on the run game. Just watch some vids on him and he moves well both second level and lateral.

Only thing I didn't like is he's always in a 2 point stance but that looks like a WV thing

I hope your right he's there say 3 bc he gonna be a stud

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 09:04
by NCF
Backthepack4ever wrote:
17 Apr 2025 18:20
One guy I think will be an all pro you moved down. Wyatt Milum.
Yeah, one more process note on that. I don't have the time or energy to get a good feel for every prospect, so I really only put my own thoughts into the Top 75ish guys. The Round 3 tier is essentially anyone that was a fringe 2 that I moved down and a catch-all for everyone else that had a Top-100 grade in The Beast (it is no coincidence that there are exactly 100 players through the end of that tier). Milum wasn't ranked, so he just went in that next category. The Beast was my source for all of this, but I just like the visualization of a tiered board.

Rounds 4-5 - I added anyone after the Top-100 and included everyone down to the Round 5-6 grade.
Rounds 6-7 - This was straightforward. Everyone with a Round 6-7 grade.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 12:08
by Yoop
Labrev wrote:
18 Apr 2025 08:38
YoHoChecko wrote:
18 Apr 2025 08:02
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).


In truth, I have been persuaded over time that this is actually the most important factor for the success of players in the league, however they got there, above all else. Above existing skill-level/floor, above raw talent/ceiling. It's the person that matters most. With team fit being a very close second.
Wild combination of thoughts right there.
Woah hey, you left out the most important thought in the combo!
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
And that is the least visible part of this process to us as onlookers, haha. Go figure.
:aok:
well we shouldn't feel bad, it's still the least exposed part with GM's scouts and everyone else to :lol:

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 12:25
by Labrev
Not saying anyone should feel bad, just saying I nor anyone else has any good way of making that judgment, unless you happen to have some firsthand knowledge that the rest of us do not. Just because a lot has been made of a player's character does not mean there is merit to it.

Dez Byrant is an example of a lot being made over nothing vis-a-vis "character concerns."

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 12:43
by NCF
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).
It's been bothering me because I had a comp for Burden stuck in my head, but I just couldn't recall who it was. It's Jalen Reagor and that explains why I have been super cautious with Burden.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 13:18
by Labrev
NCF wrote:
18 Apr 2025 12:43
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).
It's been bothering me because I had a comp for Burden stuck in my head, but I just couldn't recall who it was. It's Jalen Reagor and that explains why I have been super cautious with Burden.
That's why I say, I need a read on the personality to form a complete opinion. Reagor's issue seemed to be effort, even following him to MIN. I'm not convinced he lacked talent to be good.

Burden's production this past season fell off, but from what I have seen, that seems to have more to do with their offense collectively regressing, than an issue of his effort. It would be good to look into that and make sure, but again, I have no way of doing that.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 13:26
by NCF
Labrev wrote:
18 Apr 2025 13:18
NCF wrote:
18 Apr 2025 12:43
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).
It's been bothering me because I had a comp for Burden stuck in my head, but I just couldn't recall who it was. It's Jalen Reagor and that explains why I have been super cautious with Burden.
That's why I say, I need a read on the personality to form a complete opinion. Reagor's issue seemed to be effort, even following him to MIN. I'm not convinced he lacked talent to be good.

Burden's production this past season fell off, but from what I have seen, that seems to have more to do with their offense collectively regressing, than an issue of his effort. It would be good to look into that and make sure, but again, I have no way of doing that.
One nugget I picked up on, he is the only boy of 10 children. 9 freaking sisters. Talk about dealing with adversity.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 18 Apr 2025 19:23
by BF004
I didnt care for Burden, #5 at best for me.

Probably

Tet/Golden
Higgins
Egubka
.... undecided yet.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 19 Apr 2025 13:17
by go pak go
NCF wrote:
18 Apr 2025 12:43
Labrev wrote:
16 Apr 2025 11:27
I think Burden is my #1 WR for us now (after Hunter).
It's been bothering me because I had a comp for Burden stuck in my head, but I just couldn't recall who it was. It's Jalen Reagor and that explains why I have been super cautious with Burden.
A comp I keep hearing for Burden is Greg Jennings.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 19 Apr 2025 14:03
by Labrev
NFL.com (I think Lance Zierlein) says Garrett Wilson, Jeremiah says Stefon Diggs, I've also seen Kadarius Toney for him.

His kind of WR has a lot of value in the NFL.

Re: NFL Draft BIG BOARD

Posted: 19 Apr 2025 14:08
by NCF
I definitely don’t see the Wilson comp, but it’s so hard to find a perfect comp.