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The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 09:21
by Ghost_Lombardi
End of the half TD.

The call was for man with a single high S. ML confirmed it during his presser; he publicly questioned the call.

P has to be fired.

Yes, King is a moron. But it is the responsibility of the Def C to not allow stuff like this. We should have had 6 DBs on the field with two S covering half the field each.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 09:23
by paco
Ghost_Lombardi wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:21
End of the half TD.

The call was for man with a single high S. ML confirmed it during his presser; he publicly questioned the call.

P has to be fired.

Yes, King is a moron. But it is the responsibility of the Def C to not allow stuff like this. We should have had 6 DBs on the field with two S covering half the field each.
ML was noticeably upset at that in the presser. Obviously King could have done way better. But the call was awful. Is it enough to get him canned? I'm sure we'll see in the coming days.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 09:42
by go pak go
paco wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:23
Ghost_Lombardi wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:21
End of the half TD.

The call was for man with a single high S. ML confirmed it during his presser; he publicly questioned the call.

P has to be fired.

Yes, King is a moron. But it is the responsibility of the Def C to not allow stuff like this. We should have had 6 DBs on the field with two S covering half the field each.
ML was noticeably upset at that in the presser. Obviously King could have done way better. But the call was awful. Is it enough to get him canned? I'm sure we'll see in the coming days.
I think he needs to be fired.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 09:52
by paco
go pak go wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:42
paco wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:23
Ghost_Lombardi wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:21
End of the half TD.

The call was for man with a single high S. ML confirmed it during his presser; he publicly questioned the call.

P has to be fired.

Yes, King is a moron. But it is the responsibility of the Def C to not allow stuff like this. We should have had 6 DBs on the field with two S covering half the field each.
ML was noticeably upset at that in the presser. Obviously King could have done way better. But the call was awful. Is it enough to get him canned? I'm sure we'll see in the coming days.
I think he needs to be fired.
No argument here. But does LaFleur think that?

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 09:58
by Pckfn23
I would say unbelievable, but it's not. &%$@ call and &%$@ play.

When the head coach is publicly calling out the DC, it's over for the DC.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:05
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:58
I would say unbelievable, but it's not. &%$@ call and &%$@ play.

When the head coach is publicly calling out the DC, it's over for the DC.
Lafluer didn't call out Pettine, and NO ONE HERE knows that it was a called play, could be that Amos, Savage, say something that caused em to pinch up

not to defend Pettine, but unless your the one with a green dot then how can anyone know what the play call was.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:08
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:05
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:58
I would say unbelievable, but it's not. &%$@ call and &%$@ play.

When the head coach is publicly calling out the DC, it's over for the DC.
Lafluer didn't call out Pettine, and NO ONE HERE knows that it was a called play, could be that Amos, Savage, say something that caused em to pinch up

not to defend Pettine, but unless your the one with a green dot then how can anyone know what the play call was.
LaFleur called him out in the presser and confirmed that the call was Cover 1.

We know.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:11
by go pak go
Yoop wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:05
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:58
I would say unbelievable, but it's not. &%$@ call and &%$@ play.

When the head coach is publicly calling out the DC, it's over for the DC.
Lafluer didn't call out Pettine, and NO ONE HERE knows that it was a called play, could be that Amos, Savage, say something that caused em to pinch up

not to defend Pettine, but unless your the one with a green dot then how can anyone know what the play call was.
Well when the head coach calls it out in the post game presser it's a pretty big we know what the call was.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:14
by Pckfn23


3:15, $%@# watch it...

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:19
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:14

3:15, $%@# watch it...
You can't possibly know that he meant what he said.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:19
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:14

3:15, $%@# watch it...
You can't possibly know that he meant what he said.
Nah, going to be some &%$@ excuse about why it can't be watched.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:42
by williewasgreat
Quite frankly, I don't care what the defensive call was. A CB NEVER lets a receiver get past them in this type of situation. NEVER!

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:45
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19
go pak go wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:14

3:15, $%@# watch it...
You can't possibly know that he meant what he said.
Nah, going to be some &%$@ excuse about why it can't be watched.
Lafluer said it was the wrong call, he didn't say Pettine called it, (though he probably did) as I said (without rewatching the play) the safety could have seen something, or whomever was wearing the green dot could have screwed up the call, and Lafluer said this under the stress of just losing a heart breaking game, I get it, you want Pettine fired, we all do, but this issue isn't the deciding factor for me.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:53
by Half Empty
go pak go wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:14

3:15, $%@# watch it...
You can't possibly know that he meant what he said.
Didn't follow much of the sniping, but if we're going to start with not believing what they say publicly, we can eliminate a whole lot of posts.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:53
by Yoop
williewasgreat wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:42
Quite frankly, I don't care what the defensive call was. A CB NEVER lets a receiver get past them in this type of situation. NEVER!
King has played terrible lately, I agree in that if your going to play him in man, then you better give him over the top support, he was beaten in man the first series of the game too.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:53
by go pak go
Yoop wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:45
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19
go pak go wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19


You can't possibly know that he meant what he said.
Nah, going to be some &%$@ excuse about why it can't be watched.
Lafluer said it was the wrong call, he didn't say Pettine called it, (though he probably did) as I said (without rewatching the play) the safety could have seen something, or whomever was wearing the green dot could have screwed up the call, and Lafluer said this under the stress of just losing a heart breaking game, I get it, you want Pettine fired, we all do, but this issue isn't the deciding factor for me.
This one play wasn't the deciding factor for me either. But the fact that Pettine was never MLF's guy and the fact this defense has regressed really each year (maybe not last year) even though the talent got better makes me believe we need to move on and get Matt's guy.

We saw this year on the offensive side how important scheme and system matters. This defense had too much talent this year to not be a dominating unit and I fear throwing more player resources at it like we did 2011 - 2017 with no results will happen again.

But man. The ONE thing we couldn't let happen....happened. And it cost us a :lombardi:

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 10:59
by lulu
Yoop wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:05
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 09:58
I would say unbelievable, but it's not. &%$@ call and &%$@ play.

When the head coach is publicly calling out the DC, it's over for the DC.
Lafluer didn't call out Pettine, and NO ONE HERE knows that it was a called play, could be that Amos, Savage, say something that caused em to pinch up

not to defend Pettine, but unless your the one with a green dot then how can anyone know what the play call was.
MLF said so, unless you are suggesting he doesn't know either.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 11:01
by Pckfn23
Yoop wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:45
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19
go pak go wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19


You can't possibly know that he meant what he said.
Nah, going to be some &%$@ excuse about why it can't be watched.
Lafluer said it was the wrong call, he didn't say Pettine called it, (though he probably did) as I said (without rewatching the play) the safety could have seen something, or whomever was wearing the green dot could have screwed up the call, and Lafluer said this under the stress of just losing a heart breaking game, I get it, you want Pettine fired, we all do, but this issue isn't the deciding factor for me.
LaFleur $%@# said it was the call!!!! FFS!!!!

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 11:03
by salmar80
The fact utterly clueless S Will Redmond was the lone deep COVER-1 safety was diarrhea topping on a poop cake of a play. What he was doing as last line of defense instead of, for example, our fast starting safety Darnell Savage, I'll never understand. Getting to the sideline in time would've been tough even for Savage, but he might have had a chance.

Re: The call was for Cover 1

Posted: 25 Jan 2021 11:06
by Yoop
go pak go wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:53
Yoop wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:45
Pckfn23 wrote:
25 Jan 2021 10:19


Nah, going to be some &%$@ excuse about why it can't be watched.
Lafluer said it was the wrong call, he didn't say Pettine called it, (though he probably did) as I said (without rewatching the play) the safety could have seen something, or whomever was wearing the green dot could have screwed up the call, and Lafluer said this under the stress of just losing a heart breaking game, I get it, you want Pettine fired, we all do, but this issue isn't the deciding factor for me.
This one play wasn't the deciding factor for me either. But the fact that Pettine was never MLF's guy and the fact this defense has regressed really each year (maybe not last year) even though the talent got better makes me believe we need to move on and get Matt's guy.

We saw this year on the offensive side how important scheme and system matters. This defense had too much talent this year to not be a dominating unit and I fear throwing more player resources at it like we did 2011 - 2017 with no results will happen again.

But man. The ONE thing we couldn't let happen....happened. And it cost us a :lombardi:
I agree, and I've defended Pettine as much as anyone, I think I'am right ( I'am rarely ever wrong, if ya don't believe me just ask Jim T. :lol: Trudge wheres your Papa? ) about the lack of training camp, and the lack of experience at ILB, and how a defense needs that stuff to excel, I know having a few great players can sorta mask a weak position or two, but only against average offenses, against the better QB's and offensive impact players those positions are exploited, minus a steller pass rush Brady exploited King and our interior coverage, almost at will, almost every time the Bucs had the ball, and Pettine has to be held accountable for most of it.