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Trades up to:

GB trades pick 29 to the Lions in order to get a Second and Third pick from the Lions, while swapping additional late 3rd round picks.

GB gets: 41, 72, 112 (490+230+70 = 800)
DET gets: 29, 92 (640+132 = 771)

GB gets: 67, 147 (255+31 = 286)
HOU gets: 62 (284)

This leaves the Packers with 12 picks, as follows:
Rnd 2 Pk 41
Rnd 3 Pk 67
Rnd 3 Pk 72
Rnd 4 Pk 112
Rnd 4 Pk 135
Rnd 4 Pk 142
Rnd 5 Pk 147
Rnd 5 Pk 173
Rnd 5 Pk 178
Rnd 6 Pk 214
Rnd 6 Pk 220
Rnd 7 Pk 256

So let's get to filling them in

Rnd 2 Pk 41: WR Elijah Moore
5'10" 178, 4.35, RAS:8.7

Fast. Strong. Explosive. Tough. Don't let his size fool you. Moore was the complete focal point of his team's offense this year, operating as an outside receiver, from the slot, and getting manufactured touches on screens or carries. He reminds me as much of Tyler Lockett and Randall Cobb (my two previous slot receiver draft faves) as anyone in this class. He truly desires to be great; has that hungry "it factor" you want. Catches in traffic; finds soft spots in zones; frequently connects on QB scramble drill plays.

Play #8: nearest defender, Jaycee Horn
Play #7: nearest defender, Kelvin Joseph (didn't switch to him off the underneath screen; maybe wasn't supposed to)

Rnd 3 Pk 67: DL Milton Williams
6'3" 284, 4.67, RAS: 10.0
If we're going with a single-gap scheme, Milton Williams is a great option to put on the line. He was an EDGE player that was bumped inside to DT in his final year in college and feasted. He's now a classic 3-technique or 4i style DL with ELITE athleticism. If Williams isn't for us, I like the UCLA guy Osa Odighizuwa for the same role.

Rnd 3 Pk 72: RB Michael Carter
5'8" 201, 4.50, RAS: 6.2
I love Michael Carter. Just look at this monster game against U of Miami for a composite of his skills. His vision to find the correct lane and burst through it; his speed/burst to get to the edge or to pull away downfield; his lateral cuts that absolutely destroy pursuit angles, not to mention shake tacklers right in front of him; he's got a ton of pass-catching skills, but will need to refine his routes and whatnot. Absolutely can take the "Tyler Ervin" role, plus some. And also form a smooth transition to life after Aaron Jones alongside AJ Dillon. Also has KO return experience.


Rnd 4 Pk 112: CB Marco Wilson
6'0" 191, 4.34 RAS: 10.0
This is probably too long to wait for a CB, but I really like this guy. If you watch highlights of Marco Wilson, you'll occasionally hear the sportscaster mention that he's been playing more in the "star role" on defense. He has experience inside and out, and when inside, he's been asked to do a lot of different things. He's athletically as gifted as there is (see the perfect RAS) and experienced in the SEC. He seems like a very high-floor player. You're going to get something out of this pick. Hopefully a starter, but at least a player.

Rnd 4 Pk 135 OT Brendan Jaimes
6'5" 298, RAS: 8.5

I have such a difficult time predicting where OTs will go. I moved this pick around a bunch (honestly my picks at 135, 142, and 147 are all probably gone by 125ish, but when you have 3 picks of a 13-pick stretch, I sort of considered them all one general value area--and these guys could conceivably be late 4th/early 5ths. This guy is experienced and has the requisite athleticism to play at the next level. Should fit a zone scheme well. Isn't as big or brutish as our recent OL selections, so may not be the right fit for Gutey/MLF, but fits well with our previous mold of OL (college LT, experienced, athletic).

Rnd 4 Pk 142: WR Josh Palmer
6'1" 210 4.51, RAS: 7.6
The watch word for all of our young WRs under MLF has been "consistency." Every time MVS does something well, MLF says "yes, this is the standard; now we need to consistency." Rodgers loves guys who are consistent down in and down out, and can be relied upon to be in the right spot. Palmer has the ability to be a starting-caliber NFL receiver whose got a much more consistent baseline. This is honestly too late for him. He's in the 4th on most sites, so this late might be a stretch. I actually value him as more of a late 3rd. Think of him as Bryan Edwards from So Carolina last year. If we get the slot gadget speed guy early, I want the solid, dependable, consistent guy (still with upside) later.


Rnd 5 Pk 147: CB Zech McPhereson
5'11" 191, 4.50, 9.1

It bugs me that he couldn't get on the field at Penn St, but his two years at Texas Tech have been worthy of this pick and an opportunity (and maybe better than Marco Wilson's). Seems to have developed a nose for the football on defense and STs and has some pretty elite testing. Understands spacial awareness on the field and uses the sideline as an extra defender. Has inside and outside experience.

Rnd 5 Pk 173: DT Jonathan Marshall
6'3" 310, 4.81, RAS: 10.0

This is slightly irrational but I just love Arkansas DLmen. Every two or three years they seem to have a guy who just has these solid measurables and length, good strength, checks all the boxes.... but playing on a team that isn't good enough to hold up in the SEC so they get overlooked. The PLAYER holds up in the SEC, but not a lot of impact a single, solid DT can make. Marshall would add a strong, athletic big man to the mix in the mold of Michael Brockers' role on the Rams, but at much better value.
I mean....


Rnd 5 Pk 178: C Jimmy Morrissey
6'3" 303, 5.29, RAS: 9.0

C is one of the few positions where there can be guys that are obviously NFL-starter caliber, but they still just last to the end of the draft. Usually it's a "size" thing or an "athleticism" thing. I think about Scott Wells all the time. The guy was the only "can't miss 7th rounder" I remember. Morrissey is a "size" thing. But he hits the minimums and has the athleticism and personality to be a pretty sure bet at the next level. Absolutely one of my favorite targets in this draft.

Rnd 6 Pk 214: WR/TE Jacob Harris
6'5" 219, 4.40, RAS: 9.9
He's listed as a TE on many draft boards despite being a 6'5" 220 pound college receiver who ran a 4.4... I dunno, sounds pretty receiver-like to me. The ambiguity, though, helps the Packers get away with a third receiver in the draft. I wanted t throw a bone to Gutey's preference for big guys who can be like a jumbo slot, assuming we can't afford to keep Lazard after this year (not that he'll be SO expensive, but just that he'll be a veteran starter and we have a lot of tight decisions to make). I like him for the PS, personally.

Rnd 6 Pk 220: LB Nick Nieman
6'3" 234, 4.51, RAS: 9.5

Inexplicably low playing time in college. One of those guys who showed up when he played--not elite showing up or anything, but he didn't seem to be a detriment. His measurables are off the charts though he plays a position where instincts are king. For the most part, he's a buy-low flier on the athletic upside at a position where we're lacking some speed, and has a good chance to make the team due to STs and upside alone, but is a great PS candidate who can be elevated to active for ST on occasion.


Rnd 7 Pk 256: CB/ST Avery Williams
5'8" 187, 4.40, RAS: 7.8

Avery Williams is a special teams player. He may play some dime DB and he may get some gadget snaps on offense (did RB drills at his Pro Day), but he's just a guy you like to have on the team. He's a returner, a gunner, on the block teams (and had blocks). He's scored TDs, blocked kicks, forced fumbles. He's a guy who has a nose for special teams like few others. At the end of the 7th, you gotta give a guy like this a chance to find a role on a team that has been so woefully disappointing in this aspect of the game.





*probably

Nice work. I will give more feed back later when I have time but I like it and a few different names for sure. Only question is the trade in the north. Prob wont happen but the players we net are sweet.

I need more on Marco Wilson. I have skipped over him.

Yeah I really brining up the names like Marco Wilson, Zech McPherson idea.

Another name I am going to throw out there is Cal Berkley Camryn Bynum. He could be a Day 3 guy I like a lot.

Marco Wilson seems to be really hated by Gator fans. My guess is it is really linked to his "cleat throwing incident" but Gators fans seem to equate him like we do to Randle and Ahmad Carrol.

Kind of wonder how our depth chart would shake out with, whatever that was, 12 picks?

With a lot of the can kicking going on, prolly a smart idea of adding talent on rookie contracts in bulk, but wonder how much room there actually wouldn't be on the 53 for that many picks.



I would prolly like to address corner earlier than the 4th, but our perceived needs often don't reflect with how Gute handles his draft room, although I like the triple dip there. I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson and Hollman are both off roster in September. Neither can be relied on to play CB and both frequently inactive because they aren't good ST'ers.

BF004 wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2021 08:47

Kind of wonder how our depth chart would shake out with, whatever that was, 12 picks?

With a lot of the can kicking going on, prolly a smart idea of adding talent on rookie contracts in bulk, but wonder how much room there actually wouldn't be on the 53 for that many picks.



I would prolly like to address corner earlier than the 4th, but our perceived needs often don't reflect with how Gute handles his draft room, although I like the triple dip there. I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson and Hollman are both off roster in September. Neither can be relied on to play CB and both frequently inactive because they aren't good ST'ers.

I agree with all of this. I'd also like to add an edge and a safety and somehow didn't in 12 picks.

But I used it in a couple ways:
1) to add more names to the mix; I have some repeats here, but I want to express my interest in some guys I've talked a touch less about.
2) to express my interest and willingness to move back because of how I feel about the depth of thr draft in the mid-3rd through the end of the 4th

I also DID make a projected 53-man roster after this and found it forces "tough" decisions on, like, Tyler Lancaster, Ty Summers, Oren Burks, EQSB, and Malik Taylor... which I'm fine with.

Backthepack4ever wrote: ↑

19 Apr 2021 19:25

I need more on Marco Wilson. I have skipped over him.

go pak go wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2021 08:26

Yeah I really brining up the names like Marco Wilson, Zech McPherson idea.

Another name I am going to throw out there is Cal Berkley Camryn Bynum. He could be a Day 3 guy I like a lot.

Marco Wilson seems to be really hated by Gator fans. My guess is it is really linked to his "cleat throwing incident" but Gators fans seem to equate him like we do to Randle and Ahmad Carrol.

Yeah, so it's interesting. PFF gives him a pretty low coverage grade (Wilson; McPhereson quite high, actually).

Dane Brugler and Ben Fennell are regular guests on a draft podcast I like, and that podcast seems to be high on Wilson as sort of a safe player with a high ceiling, though Brugler himself puts Wilson in the late 4th/5th range.

Here's Brugler on Wilson:

STRENGTHS: Composed, balanced athlete…smooth hips to open and carry his speed downfield…has springs in his lower body and will show them off with a standing backflip…matches his footwork in coverage instead of making excessive contact…usually in position to recover…projectable size with adequate length and room to get stronger…keeps an eye on the backfield to quickly drive from off-coverage…closes with purpose as a downhill tackler, leading with his face and bringing his feet…inside/outside experience, spending time as a nickel and perimeter player…has faced his fair share of adversity, including two ACL surgeries…battle-tested in the SEC with 35 career starts.

WEAKNESSES: Immature technique and struggles to win body position mid-route…plays on his heels instead of the balls of his feet…allows free release from press and doesn’t force receivers to work for it…lacks a secondary burst to make up the final few yards before the ball arrives…undeveloped route recognition and plays too reactive…gives up too many completions and “almost” break-ups…his on-field confidence has too many valleys and peaks…had the same number of passes defended as a freshman (10) as he did the next three seasons combined…his medical evaluation could be a hurdle after tearing the ACL in his left knee as a sophomore (September 2018) and his right knee as a junior in high school (August 2015).

SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Florida, Wilson was the right cornerback in defensive coordinator Todd Grantham’s scheme, also spending time inside in more of a nickel role in 2019. He is a puzzling prospect because of his volatile production and performance, although he will best be remembered for the cleat-throwing penalty that led to LSU’s upset win over Florida in 2020. Wilson has the athleticism to always be in the vicinity, but he gave up too many plays the past two seasons, including seven touchdowns and 57.8% completions. He displays awareness in space and the attitude to get the job done in run support. Overall, Wilson is a good-sized athlete with fluidity and toughness, but he doesn’t play with consistent urgency, discipline or feel and wasn’t a playmaker on tape. He can eventually push for starting reps if he shows improvements under NFL coaching.

Here's Tony Pauline:

Positives: Consistent cornerback with a solid game. Displays good awareness, keeps the action in front of him, and takes proper angles to the play. Fires up the field and gives effort defending the run. Aggressive and wraps up tackling. Tracks the pass in the air, displays a burst out of his plant, and dives around the field working to break up throws.

Negatives: Turned in a tremendous freshman campaign in 2017, yet never truly elevated his game afterward. Best facing the action.

Analysis: Wilson is a solid defensive back who can line up in a zone system as either a corner or safety. Playing with an aggressive nature, Wilson can be an asset on special teams and could make a roster as a ninth defensive back.

One of the things I like about the weaknesses is how many of them seem to be coaching. We're currently blessed with a very gifted teacher in Jerry Gray on the back end, so I like the prospect of correcting those things. The lack of plays on the ball and route recognition may or may not change, and probably won't. But for a guy who mad more PDs and better play from a nickel position, he can fill in there early and maybe make a home.

One of the things I like about the strengths is how well he seems to fit for zone schemes and how both mention tackling/run support, and how his physical tools are elite enough that if the technique clicks and the light comes on, it would be bright.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2021 09:22

BF004 wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2021 08:47

Kind of wonder how our depth chart would shake out with, whatever that was, 12 picks?

With a lot of the can kicking going on, prolly a smart idea of adding talent on rookie contracts in bulk, but wonder how much room there actually wouldn't be on the 53 for that many picks.



I would prolly like to address corner earlier than the 4th, but our perceived needs often don't reflect with how Gute handles his draft room, although I like the triple dip there. I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson and Hollman are both off roster in September. Neither can be relied on to play CB and both frequently inactive because they aren't good ST'ers.

I agree with all of this. I'd also like to add an edge and a safety and somehow didn't in 12 picks.

But I used it in a couple ways:
1) to add more names to the mix; I have some repeats here, but I want to express my interest in some guys I've talked a touch less about.
2) to express my interest and willingness to move back because of how I feel about the depth of thr draft in the mid-3rd through the end of the 4th

I also DID make a projected 53-man roster after this and found it forces "tough" decisions on, like, Tyler Lancaster, Ty Summers, Oren Burks, EQSB, and Malik Taylor... which I'm fine with.

The 16-man PS also makes it a little bit easier to keep these guys around and developing, even if not on the roster. With some protections in place, the chances of losing a guy or two is pretty mitigated, so we really could pipeline the whole class forward if we needed to. The only downside is losing the 4-year rookie deal and going to RFA in year 3 and in most cases, that shouldn't even be that big of a deal.