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Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 10:25
by Ghost_Lombardi
I think a deal has been worked out with Denver.
Rodgers will be traded post June 1, making the cap acceleration actually manageable.
We will get Patrick Surtain and 2022 and 2023 high picks. Our secondary will be elite for years to come.
They get AR.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 10:28
by NCF
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:25
I think a deal has been worked out with Denver.
Rodgers will be traded post June 1, making the cap acceleration actually manageable.
We will get Patrick Surtain and 2022 and 2023 high picks. Our secondary will be elite for years to come.
They get AR.
So many things make this highly, highly unlikely. I would rather play the wait and see game than point them all out.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 10:31
by Ghost_Lombardi
NCF wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:28
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:25
I think a deal has been worked out with Denver.
Rodgers will be traded post June 1, making the cap acceleration actually manageable.
We will get Patrick Surtain and 2022 and 2023 high picks. Our secondary will be elite for years to come.
They get AR.
So many things make this highly, highly unlikely. I would rather play the wait and see game than point them all out.
It's a done deal.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:02
by YoHoChecko
I would accept:
That's the deal. Is that too much to give up? Yes, it is. You have to give up too much to trade for a player whose team has no desire to trade him. I don't think we should trade him this year, and I don't want him to be traded this year, and I don't think the team wants to trade him this year.
But if this offer came in, I think I'd listen.
It's essentially 3 firsts, a second, and a veteran QB of borderline backup/starter quality.
The Broncos would be left with Rodgers and Lock at QB, Cortland Sutton and Tim Patrick and KJ Hamler at WR with Noah Fant at TE.
I think they'd still be better off post-trade than pre-trade.
I'd use 2021 pick 40 on Elijah Moore and then spend the rest of the draft stocking up mostly on trench players on both sides of the ball.
But I'm entertaining this notion only as a fun, anything-could-happen, flesh-out-my-feelings sort of exercise. I don't think, want, or predict it will happen.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:07
by YoHoChecko
Similarly, to the Raiders I'd accept something like:
- 2021 4th (since their picks are lower--Leatherwood and 48 vs Surtain and 40)
Those are the only two deals I'm interested in. Put him in the AFC West where he faces Mahomes twice a year. Extract the two most recent first round picks to fill holes, get a veteran backup, and get a good future pick.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:13
by BF004
So we agreed to a trade to get Surtain and drafted Stokes?
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Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:27
by Ghost_Lombardi
BF004 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:13
So we agreed to a trade to get Surtain and drafted Stokes?
SureJan.gif
Yes.
The only CB on the roster is Jaire.
I doubt any of the others would be in the NFL in 2021 if GB cut them.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:28
by TheGreenMan
BF004 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:13
So we agreed to a trade to get Surtain and drafted Stokes?
SureJan.gif
"Our secondary will be elite for years to come."
Where do you think that elite secondary is coming from BF004, Josh Jackson? No, Stokes is a Packer in that crystal ball.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:29
by paco
If we are talking Broncos proposals in here, a Broncos beat writer suggested it may include Chubb along with multiple future draft picks.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:32
by YoHoChecko
paco wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:29
If we are talking Broncos proposals in here, a Broncos beat writer suggested it may include Chubb along with multiple future draft picks.
Nope. Denied. That's probably why the conversation was so quick.
You give us our exact needs on rookie deals or go home and we'll hold pat.
Specifically, if we are starting Jordan Love, the trade must come with pieces that help him succeed, like OL or a WR or both. In addition to a veteran QB because it's late in that market right now.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:34
by Christo
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:31
NCF wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:28
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:25
I think a deal has been worked out with Denver.
Rodgers will be traded post June 1, making the cap acceleration actually manageable.
We will get Patrick Surtain and 2022 and 2023 high picks. Our secondary will be elite for years to come.
They get AR.
So many things make this highly, highly unlikely. I would rather play the wait and see game than point them all out.
It's a done deal.
Were you in the room when this deal went down?
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:43
by Backthepack4ever
Chubb
Fant or Juedy
Surtain
2021 2nd
2022 1st
Lets go
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:45
by YoHoChecko
Miami:
- 2021 pick 36 (or pick 50 and an additional later pick)
You guys catching a theme here?
Last year's #1 pick, this year's #1 pick--both at NEED positions for us
A veteran QB who can back up or borderline start
A second round pick tonight
Next year's #1 pick
Obviously the least realistic part of any of these scenarios is the pick tonight. Because this deal, even if anything were to happen, wouldn't happen that quickly.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:45
by Yoop
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:25
I think a deal has been worked out with Denver.
Rodgers will be traded post June 1, making the cap acceleration actually manageable.
We will get Patrick Surtain and 2022 and 2023 high picks. Our secondary will be elite for years to come.
They get AR.
sounds like this is what a few including yourself would like to see happen.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:46
by Yoop
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:31
NCF wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:28
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 10:25
I think a deal has been worked out with Denver.
Rodgers will be traded post June 1, making the cap acceleration actually manageable.
We will get Patrick Surtain and 2022 and 2023 high picks. Our secondary will be elite for years to come.
They get AR.
So many things make this highly, highly unlikely. I would rather play the wait and see game than point them all out.
It's a done deal.
you don't know this,
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 11:53
by Yoop
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:27
BF004 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:13
So we agreed to a trade to get Surtain and drafted Stokes?
SureJan.gif
Yes.
The only CB on the roster is Jaire.
I doubt any of the others would be in the NFL in 2021 if GB cut them.
get serious, every comment is hate filled and rediculous with you, you should realize minus Rodgers the next 20 years could be Packers not reaching the playoffs instead of the 18 after Rodgers leaves after 2022, so go ahead and kick him out the door,
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 12:25
by Ghost_Lombardi
Yoop wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:53
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:27
BF004 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 11:13
So we agreed to a trade to get Surtain and drafted Stokes?
SureJan.gif
Yes.
The only CB on the roster is Jaire.
I doubt any of the others would be in the NFL in 2021 if GB cut them.
get serious, every comment is hate filled and rediculous with you, you should realize minus Rodgers the next 20 years could be Packers not reaching the playoffs instead of the 18 after Rodgers leaves after 2022, so go ahead and kick him out the door,
Do you really think that if GB cut King today that he'd be snapped up on the waiver wire? And we have guys on our roster that play behind KK.
Our DL is ok. Sans KC, it is mediocre. Our OLB is great. Our ILB is okay. S is very good and could grow to be great. CB after Jaire is a black hole.
As for Rodgers, he doesn't want to play in GB. That's him, not me.
I do think he goes to Denver and we get Surtain and a bunch of high picks.
And I think Love is a good fit for what GB does on OFF and I bet AR knows it too, which is why he wants to control his destiny now rather than wait until 2022.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 12:27
by NCF
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 12:25
I do think he goes to Denver and we get Surtain and a bunch of high picks.
Then why not just pull the trigger yesterday and we draft Surtain?
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 12:29
by YoHoChecko
NCF wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 12:27
Ghost_Lombardi wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021 12:25
I do think he goes to Denver and we get Surtain and a bunch of high picks.
Then why not just pull the trigger yesterday and we draft Surtain?
He addressed this with the June 1st change in dead money to allow the Packers to make the move while remaining fiscally viable to sign their draft class and absorb any returning contracts.
Re: Ghost's Crystal Ball and AR
Posted: 30 Apr 2021 12:32
by Labrev
Heh, NFL rumors in the age of QAnon...
Rodgers has already been traded, ya just don't know it yet! Surtain is at OTAs as we speak!