Packers Huddle

We are at the 3/4 mark of the season. Lots of MVP talk, so lets hash it out. Who wins what and why? Odds give were pulled from a couple different sources. They may vary a bit from site to site.

MVP odds...
Tom Brady -150
Aaron Rodgers +600
Kyler Murray +1000
Patrick Mahomes +1200
Justin Herbert +1400
Dak Prescott +1600
Matthew Stafford +1600
Jonathan Taylor +2500
Josh Allen +2500
Mac Jones +7500
Ryan Tannehill +10000
Joe Burrow +10000
Cooper Kupp +15000
Carson Wentz +20000
Derek Carr +20000
Kirk Cousins +29000

OROY...
Mac Jones -500
Ja'Marr Chase +350
Jaylen Waddle +6500
Najee Harris
Javonte Williams

DROY..
Micah Parsons -10000
Patrick Surtain II +1000
Jayson Oweh +4000
Asante Samuel Jr
Azeez Ojulari
Gregory Rousseau

OPOY...
Cooper Kupp +125
Jonathan Taylor +150
Deebo Samuel +3500
Kyler Murray +3500
James Conner +3500
Davante Adams +3500
Tom Brady +4000

DPOY...
Myles Garrett +300
TJ Watt +300
Micah Parsons +400
Aaron Donald +750
Trevon Diggs +1400
Matt Judon +1400

Comeback...
Dak Prescott -1000
Joe Burrow +600
Carson Wentz +1400
James Conner +2500
Derwin James +2500

Coach...
Bill Belichick +110
Kliff Kingsbury +600
Matt Lafleur +800
Mike Vrabel +1000
Brandon Staley +1400
Sean McVay +1600
Zac Taylor +1800

My picks. I think the odds makers are pretty much on point. I don't see Brady and Belichick losing unless their tank it the last 4 games or so. Rookies are fairly sewn up, but Chase could beat out Jones over the last few games. Only one really up in the air is OPOY. But I gave my nod to Taylor.

MLF and Rodgers certainly in the conversation. But too much ground to make up I think.

MVP - Brady
OROY - Mac Jones
DROY - Parsons
OPOY - Jonathan Taylor
DPOY - Garrett
Comeback - Prescott
Coach - Belichick

It almost feels like most awards are locked up already. I mean, a handful of negative odds up there, too. I think Kyler Murray's MVP odds evaporated on national TV last night with the INTs and taking the sack when they absolutely needed him not to take a sack (I know people blame Kingsbury, but it makes perfectly good sense to take 2-3 plays toward the end zone on 2nd and 3rd down before kicking that FG because that's a much higher chance of TD success than, say, a hail mary; what Kingsbury needed for that strategy to work was for Murray not to let the clock keep rolling)

I don't get all the love for Bellichck. He had 8 players opt out last year and they all came back this year. Not exactly a surprise their defense and Oline are better with the guys that came back. Whereas MLF, Vrabel and Harbaugh have lost half their team and still in good shape for the playoffs.

Give the MVP to Brady... the NFL MVP has not won a Super Bowl since Kurt Warner in 1999.

packman114 wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2021 11:30

I don't get all the love for Bellichck. He had 8 players opt out last year and they all came back this year. Not exactly a surprise their defense and Oline are better with the guys that came back. Whereas MLF, Vrabel and Harbaugh have lost half their team and still in good shape for the playoffs.

No one thought that roster was better than 8 wins and he's doing it with a rookie QB most thought wasn't any good. They are sitting at #1 in the AFC right now. And its Bill, so that's enough for people.

No odds on Executive of the Year? It's gotta be either Gutey or Belichick.

(Can you believe Ryan Pace of the Bears won in 2018? )

NCF wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2021 11:34

Give the MVP to Brady... the NFL MVP has not won a Super Bowl since Kurt Warner in 1999.

Tampa is not winning the Super Bowl this year.

I would go ahead and give DPOY to Micah Parsons

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 01:19

I would go ahead and give DPOY to Micah Parsons

Yep, it's a given. I was a little disappointed to not see Stokes listed even with very large odds. I didn't expect him to win, but think he deserves a mention.

paco wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 07:24

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 01:19

I would go ahead and give DPOY to Micah Parsons

Yep, it's a given. I was a little disappointed to not see Stokes listed even with very large odds. I didn't expect him to win, but think he deserves a mention.

Granted I don't follow this stuff as closely as you or Tex ( who seems like a closet Cowboys fan lol )
I don't think a rookie has ever won the DPOY award ( correct me if I'am wrong ) I think that award will go to Garret or TJ Watt, heck even Donald imo is above Parsons, when ya consider all the double blocks he beats for pressures and sacks, that has to be considered when they vote.

I love Parsons from the small sample I've seen, he should easily win the DROY award

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 08:26

paco wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 07:24

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 01:19

I would go ahead and give DPOY to Micah Parsons

Yep, it's a given. I was a little disappointed to not see Stokes listed even with very large odds. I didn't expect him to win, but think he deserves a mention.

Granted I don't follow this stuff as closely as you or Tex ( who seems like a closet Cowboys fan lol )
I don't think a rookie has ever won the DPOY award ( correct me if I'am wrong ) I think that award will go to Garret or TJ Watt, heck even Donald imo is above Parsons, when ya consider all the double blocks he beats for pressures and sacks, that has to be considered when they vote.

I love Parsons from the small sample I've seen, he should easily win the DROY award

oops, yeah, I read that wrong and thought he said DROY. I could see him get a few votes for POY but he won't win. With Monday night's game, I think Donald might have put himself ahead in the POY voting.

paco wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 07:24

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 01:19

I would go ahead and give DPOY to Micah Parsons

Yep, it's a given. I was a little disappointed to not see Stokes listed even with very large odds. I didn't expect him to win, but think he deserves a mention.

It is too bad Myers got hurt.

paco wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 08:44

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 08:26

paco wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 07:24

Yep, it's a given. I was a little disappointed to not see Stokes listed even with very large odds. I didn't expect him to win, but think he deserves a mention.

Granted I don't follow this stuff as closely as you or Tex ( who seems like a closet Cowboys fan lol )
I don't think a rookie has ever won the DPOY award ( correct me if I'am wrong ) I think that award will go to Garret or TJ Watt, heck even Donald imo is above Parsons, when ya consider all the double blocks he beats for pressures and sacks, that has to be considered when they vote.

I love Parsons from the small sample I've seen, he should easily win the DROY award

oops, yeah, I read that wrong and thought he said DROY. I could see him get a few votes for POY but he won't win. With Monday night's game, I think Donald might have put himself ahead in the POY voting.

thought you had Donald is so dominating, Glad we have his clone with Clark, I think he still leads the team with total pass pressures.

PFF loves us, I read somewhere they gave us over 30 pressures against the Bears, 004 just posted that we are getting pressure at 43% on passing downs, not sure if that was seasonal or just the Bears game.
these are phenominal numbers, two years ago I think it was Baltimore had broken the pressures ceiling with a seasonal rate of about 41% per pass play, about 10% points higher then ever before recorded, so we have elevated our pass rush this season into elite status, and we know that Clark, Lowery, and Keke have played a huge roll in that, I love watching our pass rush dominate the way they have.

TheSkeptic wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 08:56

paco wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 07:24

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 01:19

I would go ahead and give DPOY to Micah Parsons

Yep, it's a given. I was a little disappointed to not see Stokes listed even with very large odds. I didn't expect him to win, but think he deserves a mention.

It is too bad Myers got hurt.

Doubt they'd ever give an award to a center. But he was doing a damn good job. Hope we can get him back for the playoffs, even if its just depth.

Yoop wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 08:26

paco wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 07:24

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 01:19

I would go ahead and give DPOY to Micah Parsons

Yep, it's a given. I was a little disappointed to not see Stokes listed even with very large odds. I didn't expect him to win, but think he deserves a mention.

Granted I don't follow this stuff as closely as you or Tex ( who seems like a closet Cowboys fan lol )
I don't think a rookie has ever won the DPOY award ( correct me if I'am wrong ) I think that award will go to Garret or TJ Watt, heck even Donald imo is above Parsons, when ya consider all the double blocks he beats for pressures and sacks, that has to be considered when they vote.

I love Parsons from the small sample I've seen, he should easily win the DROY award

I'll root for Dallas as long as they have McCarthy, if they somehow remain alive in the playoffs after us. Dak is also a real good dude. Also I like Jerry Jones a lot. DFW is a great metro area.

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 14:23

Also I like Jerry Jones a lot.

Gross.

NCF wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 16:24

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 14:23

Also I like Jerry Jones a lot.

Gross.

Yeah, I thought he might be trolling when I read that.

NCF wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 16:24

texas wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2021 14:23

Also I like Jerry Jones a lot.

Gross.

Haha sadly, no, I am not trolling.

Jerry Jones seems like a solid guy, nowadays at least. I wasn't a fan of football when he would get into pissing matches with Jimmy Johnson or whoever else.