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Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 08:28
by NCF
May 2nd is the deadline to exercise Savage's 5th-year option if we choose to do so. Right now, I would bet against it. What do we think? Is this still an ascending player or just a guy that can be fairly easily replaced?
Darnell Savage
Green Bay Packers · S
Exercise the option? No.
Savage created a lot of buzz in his second season with a number of big plays and interceptions (four) -- a lot of which he fell into -- but he's come back down to earth in 2021. He has looked lost in coverage at times and the run support isn't there. I wouldn't exercise the option right now because I think the Packers can draft another player with better value.
https://www.nfl.com/news/weighing-fifth ... exercise-o
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 08:38
by BF004
I think it would be under 8 million given his accolades, position and draft slot.
I would say absolutely.
He hasn't hit that pro-bowl caliber yet, little weak on the tackling, but I think he is a very average at worst safety.
Still young, changing DC's, I'd frankly try extending him sooner than later.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 08:42
by RingoCStarrQB
NCF wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 08:28
May 2nd is the deadline to exercise Savage's 5th-year option if we choose to do so. Right now, I would bet against it. What do we think? Is this still an ascending player or just a guy that can be fairly easily replaced?
Darnell Savage
Green Bay Packers · S
Exercise the option? No.
Savage created a lot of buzz in his second season with a number of big plays and interceptions (four) -- a lot of which he fell into -- but he's come back down to earth in 2021. He has looked lost in coverage at times and the run support isn't there. I wouldn't exercise the option right now because I think the Packers can draft another player with better value.
https://www.nfl.com/news/weighing-fifth ... exercise-o
The front office should totally analyze the Micah Hyde story ........... and make their decision based on that story.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 09:02
by TheSkeptic
His cap hit would be 7.92 million.
This is one of the decisions dependent on the primary decision, whether or not to trade Aaron Rodgers.
I disagree that they can replace him adequately in the draft. They have a desperate need for a WR#1 in either the 1st or 2nd round. If Tonyan is not resigned, they have a desperate need at TE in either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round. And they could lose both Z and Preston.
Lets face facts, if they keep Rodgers they do not have 8 mil to keep Savage and so they will have to hope to get lucky on the mid round draft pick they use on a safety. Odds are that even if they get lucky, this rookie will be a downgrade for the 2022/23 season. But if Love is the QB, who cares how he plays this year, its a year later that matters.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 09:08
by Pckfn23
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 09:02
His cap hit would be 7.92 million.
This is one of the decisions dependent on the primary decision, whether or not to trade Aaron Rodgers.
That's a 2023 cap hit, so the Rodgers decision doesn't play much into this decision on Savage.
I disagree that they can replace him adequately in the draft.
If he plays like he did in 2021, then it would not be particularly hard. He was not good. It may have been because of his first year in the defense, so it could improve.
Lets face facts, if they keep Rodgers they do not have 8 mil to keep Savage
That's not fact.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 09:08
by BF004
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 09:02
His cap hit would be 7.92 million.
This is one of the decisions dependent on the primary decision, whether or not to trade Aaron Rodgers.
I disagree that they can replace him adequately in the draft. They have a desperate need for a WR#1 in either the 1st or 2nd round. If Tonyan is not resigned, they have a desperate need at TE in either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round. And they could lose both Z and Preston.
Lets face facts, if they keep Rodgers they do not have 8 mil to keep Savage and so they will have to hope to get lucky on the mid round draft pick they use on a safety. Odds are that even if they get lucky, this rookie will be a downgrade for the 2022/23 season. But if Love is the QB, who cares how he plays this year, its a year later that matters.
If pick up his 5th year option this year, that will be his pay next year.
Moderately unrelated to Aaron Rodgers this year. Of course ever dollar matters, but you really don't need to bring this same topic up in every post, we know your stance.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 09:42
by Yoop
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 09:02
His cap hit would be 7.92 million.
This is one of the decisions dependent on the primary decision, whether or not to trade Aaron Rodgers.
I disagree that they can replace him adequately in the draft. They have a desperate need for a WR#1 in either the 1st or 2nd round. If Tonyan is not resigned, they have a desperate need at TE in either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round. And they could lose both Z and Preston.
Lets face facts, if they keep Rodgers they do not have 8 mil to keep Savage and so they will have to hope to get lucky on the mid round draft pick they use on a safety. Odds are that even if they get lucky, this rookie will be a downgrade for the 2022/23 season. But if Love is the QB, who cares how he plays this year, its a year later that matters.
another post derailed into some BS about Rodgers.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 09:53
by Pckfn23
wide receivers
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 09:55
by Yoop
NCF wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 08:28
May 2nd is the deadline to exercise Savage's 5th-year option if we choose to do so. Right now, I would bet against it. What do we think? Is this still an ascending player or just a guy that can be fairly easily replaced?
Darnell Savage
Green Bay Packers · S
Exercise the option? No.
Savage created a lot of buzz in his second season with a number of big plays and interceptions (four) -- a lot of which he fell into -- but he's come back down to earth in 2021. He has looked lost in coverage at times and the run support isn't there. I wouldn't exercise the option right now because I think the Packers can draft another player with better value.
https://www.nfl.com/news/weighing-fifth ... exercise-o
we'll pick it up, Savage given freedom with Pettine didn't receive that from Barry, probably because interior 2nd level coverage had improved with the addition of Campbell which allowed Savage to stay in single high more, Barry imo used our safety's in a more conventional roll, Amos tackles went up 10, Savage went down 10, most likely because Savage spent less time in the box, Savage was great in college, and looked like a ascending player his first two seasons with us, he'll be to hard to replace, just my guess.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 10:02
by BF004
Yoop wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 09:42
TheSkeptic wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 09:02
His cap hit would be 7.92 million.
This is one of the decisions dependent on the primary decision, whether or not to trade Aaron Rodgers.
I disagree that they can replace him adequately in the draft. They have a desperate need for a WR#1 in either the 1st or 2nd round. If Tonyan is not resigned, they have a desperate need at TE in either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round. And they could lose both Z and Preston.
Lets face facts, if they keep Rodgers they do not have 8 mil to keep Savage and so they will have to hope to get lucky on the mid round draft pick they use on a safety. Odds are that even if they get lucky, this rookie will be a downgrade for the 2022/23 season. But if Love is the QB, who cares how he plays this year, its a year later that matters.
another post derailed into some BS about Rodgers.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 10:03
by Yoop
Pckfn23 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 09:53
wide receivers
the wr stuff made sense, and still does, we might actually have more then Amari Rodgers under contract if we'd have drafted one or two, this Rodgers stuff is beyond redundant
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 10:06
by Pckfn23
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 10:14
by wallyuwl
He is one of those guys that is pretty good but not nearly what the expectations were when drafted. Would completely depend on $$$, IMO. For $8 million, if that is the number, no way.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 11:44
by Drj820
i would pick up the 5th year. 8m is not really that much to be able to give him more time to develop. We dont want to be in a position where he and Amos are walking out the door. He still has alot of tangibles that make you like him, i did expect better tackling. I would keep him for the 5th year.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 11:45
by Drj820
even if he isnt worth 8m, that 8m is kind of like a tax for being unsure if you want him long term or not. It allows you more time to evaluate before you lose him. I would take the time.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 14:38
by Yoop
Drj820 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 11:45
even if he isnt worth 8m, that 8m is kind of like a tax for being unsure if you want him long term or not. It allows you more time to evaluate before you lose him. I would take the time.
He was considered by some as a top 10 FS in 2020, his only dig is that he needs to work on his tackling, average safety's make 5+plus mil. and Savage is better then average.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 14:42
by NCF
Yoop wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 14:38
Drj820 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 11:45
even if he isnt worth 8m, that 8m is kind of like a tax for being unsure if you want him long term or not. It allows you more time to evaluate before you lose him. I would take the time.
He was considered by some as a top 10 FS in 2020, his only dig is that he needs to work on his tackling, average safety's make 5+plus mil. and Savage is better then average.
How much better? Keep in mind not exercising the option doesn't mean he is gone. Still under contract in 2022 and then can re-sign him or franchise tag him. It's a bit of a gamble. If his play is subpar, you likely could sign him for less than the option. If he plays really well, the option obviously keeps him in place for another year with team leverage to work out a longer-term deal.
Re: Darnell Savage
Posted: 10 Feb 2022 15:05
by Yoop
NCF wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 14:42
Yoop wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 14:38
Drj820 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022 11:45
even if he isnt worth 8m, that 8m is kind of like a tax for being unsure if you want him long term or not. It allows you more time to evaluate before you lose him. I would take the time.
He was considered by some as a top 10 FS in 2020, his only dig is that he needs to work on his tackling, average safety's make 5+plus mil. and Savage is better then average.
How much better? Keep in mind not exercising the option doesn't mean he is gone. Still under contract in 2022 and then can re-sign him or franchise tag him. It's a bit of a gamble. If his play is subpar, you likely could sign him for less than the option. If he plays really well, the option obviously keeps him in place for another year with team leverage to work out a longer-term deal.
I think we'll pick up the option because I do think the change of scheme played a big part in his tackle # decline, he was to good in 2020 to not be able to rebound once he adapts to the changes, plus the pay scale for safety's is probably going to jump a bit, I don't think we can replace him cheaper, if he does bounce back as I predict, 8 mil. in 2023 might be a bargain.
