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Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:24
by Ghost_Lombardi
:munch:

Re: Round 4, Pick #132, R Doubs, WR

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:25
by paco
Every time they showed highlights of Carson Strong, it was Doubs being wide open.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:26
by Ghost_Lombardi

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:29
by kampmanfan4life
Good special teamer guy. I don't know anything about wideouts but does he catch too much with his body?

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:29
by go pak go
This guy might be a really good gunner. He is a vertical guy with speed who is also big.

This guy should be a great STs contributor.

Love, love, love this pick.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:32
by Ghost_Lombardi
6'016
204

Tape shows straight line game speed ++. Hands catcher.

Big hands and wingspan.

No Combine numbers. Injury.

Size/speed combo means potential gunner.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:32
by paco
Major downside appears to be strength.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:33
by Ghost_Lombardi
paco wrote:
30 Apr 2022 12:32
Major downside appears to be strength.
You can make a guy stronger.


Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:36
by paco
Ghost_Lombardi wrote:
30 Apr 2022 12:33
paco wrote:
30 Apr 2022 12:32
Major downside appears to be strength.
You can make a guy stronger.

Yep, a year or 2 in an NFL weight room can do wonders for guys. I think he'll be a starter on ST right away, but won't contribute a ton on offense right away. Which I'm fine with in the 4th.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:37
by paco

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:41
by paco
There's more in this thread from Justis too.




Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:45
by salmar80
Very active feet and great speed. Stiff, so has learned to drop his hips to change direction, which is a bad tell for NFL corners. Needs coaching at footwork and disguising things.

Can be just deep threat early on.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 12:46
by paco
Dobbs, not Dubs for pronunciation.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 13:10
by Realist
go pak go wrote:
30 Apr 2022 12:29
This guy might be a really good gunner. He is a vertical guy with speed who is also big.

This guy should be a great STs contributor.

Love, love, love this pick.
Are there any picks u don't love love love?

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 13:17
by go pak go
Realist wrote:
30 Apr 2022 13:10
go pak go wrote:
30 Apr 2022 12:29
This guy might be a really good gunner. He is a vertical guy with speed who is also big.

This guy should be a great STs contributor.

Love, love, love this pick.
Are there any picks u don't love love love?
Not this weekend.

This is a celebration. Have fun dude. There is plenty of time during the year to be pessimistic.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 13:35
by salmar80
go pak go wrote:
30 Apr 2022 13:17
Realist wrote:
30 Apr 2022 13:10
go pak go wrote:
30 Apr 2022 12:29
This guy might be a really good gunner. He is a vertical guy with speed who is also big.

This guy should be a great STs contributor.

Love, love, love this pick.
Are there any picks u don't love love love?
Not this weekend.

This is a celebration. Have fun dude. There is plenty of time during the year to be pessimistic.
It's the weekend of :beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2:

It's real easy to hate on picks. Especially later ones. Most of the prospects won't work out eventually, and if you hate on them early, you can get an easy "I told you so!" -gratification moment. But that also means your favorite team has gotten worse, so it's a personal gratification dish with heavy salt.

I, personally, am not elated with how the 22nd pick and the early run on WRs went. Seems to me like a sub-optimal 1st round for us. But I won't hate on Quay. I dislike the premium we paid to trade up for Watson, but I do like the pick. After the first round, I'm mostly along for the ride. No deep knowledge on these guys, so why not enjoy the promise they have instead of them obviously having negatives.

I guess I'm just not a fan of hating overall.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 13:42
by Pckfn23
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Rating: 70.85 (Chance to start)

Pro Comparison: Zach Pascal

Strengths:

Decently sized vertical specialist with high-caliber ball-tracking skills. His spindly frame really makes him susceptible to contact during the route. Minimal YAC. Some wiggle to beat press but not a specialty. Best when he get click on the jets and get vertical, will run by some slower CBs in those scenarios and will run down the football.

Weaknesses:

Really struggles against physicality. Routes aren't brutal but he's not an explosive, twitchy type. At times, it'll draw flags of course, but in many instances he's simply disrupted from his route and either can't get open or won't get to where he needs to be when he needs to be there. Speed is good, not great.

Accolades:

Two-team All-Mountain West first team
Fourth in program history in rec yards (3,322) and T-fifth in rec TDs (26)
Former Nevada receivers coach Eric Scott coached Doubs (pronounced dubs) at Jefferson High School in Los Angeles and knew him from Snoop Dogg's Youth Football League. Scott took over recruiting for Nevada in 2017 and made sure to sign Doubs. He returned an 80-yard punt for a touchdown on his first collegiate touch, eventually starting nine of 13 games in his true freshman season (43-562-13.1, two TDs receiving; 1-22-22.0 kick returns; 6-107-17.8, one TD punt returns). Doubs was an honorable mention All-Mountain West Conference pick and the team's Most Valuable Player in 2019, leading the squad with 14.8 yards per reception (44-649, four TDs; 8-86-10.8 punt returns in 11 games, eight starts). MWC coaches voted him first-team all-conference in 2020 as he ranked eighth in the FBS with 111.3 receiving yards per game (58-1,002-17.3, nine TDs; 11-100-9.1 punt returns in nine starts). Doubs was a first-team All-MWC selection in 2021, as well, after leading the Wolf Pack with 80 receptions, 1,109 receiving yards (13.9 per catch) and 11 touchdowns while effectively returning punts (12-170-14.2). He opted out of the team's bowl game to prepare for the NFL draft. -- by Chad Reuter


Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Draft Projection
Rounds 4-5
Overview
Will check the boxes for height, weight and speed, but tightness in his lower half limits the upside. Doubs has been a productive, high-volume target with speed to separate deep but he's a linear route-runner who will struggle to elude NFL press and separate from tight man coverage over the first two levels. His toughness, ball skills and special teams potential increase his chances of earning a backup role.
Strengths
Good size/speed combination.
Posted back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons.
Labeled by scouts as tough and competitive with alpha demeanor.
Early acceleration to overtake cornerback on go routes.
Good awareness and footwork near the sideline.
Catches with sudden, strong hands.
Able to pluck with extension or make cradle catches in traffic.
Possesses necessary courage catching in traffic.
Productive punt returner with gunner potential in the pros.
Weaknesses
Linear and limited as a route runner.
Will have trouble releasing past press defenders.
Runs with upright gait in the drive phase.
Routes can be redirected and thrown off schedule.
Tight hips limit separation success from break points.
Room for improvement with catch focus through contact.
Below-average run-after-catch talent.
Sources Tell Us

"Watch the Fresno game and you see exactly who he is as a player with his ball skills and competitiveness." -- Scout for AFC team
ANALYST'S REPORTS
Harris
Romeo Doubs is a dynamic and explosive athlete with very good straight-line speed and agility as a route-runner. He’s a certified deep threat who led the country in receiving yardage per game for a good portion of 2020. In 2020, he had some issues with drops but has seemingly overcome those issues this season. His very good and sudden speed immediately threatens a cornerback’s cushion in coverage, which affords him good separation in the intermediate areas of the field. He easily takes hitches, smokes, and bubble screens for good yardage due to his ability as a strong runner with the football. He projects as a better stalk blocker than he currently is due to his good strength and toughness at the point of attack. He demonstrates strong hands to pluck the football. The presence of his explosive speed will help any offense’s running game to see lighter boxes.

FILM EVALUATION

Written by Drae Harris

Games watched: Fresno State (2021), California (2021), Wyoming (2021)

Route Running: He can afford to get more creative as a route-runner, specifically with regards to setting defenders up when in man coverage. He is a bonafide deep threat who can run by you if given the chance.

Hands: He wins a lot of 50/50 balls showing strong hands to secure the football in contested-catch situations. He had some issues with drops in 2020 but appears to have overcome these. He needs to be a little more consistent not allowing the ball into his frame.

Separation: He is a good separator with pure speed on deep routes. However, he should get better at uncovering in the short-to-intermediate areas. His skill set suggests he can do this.

Release: He has improved his release in 2021. He can win with foot quickness off the line and win with upper-body strength.

Run After Catch: He is dangerous with the ball in his hands after the catch. He is fast and explosive, which makes him a threat in space. He's also sufficiently elusive on underneath throws.

Ball Skills: He has been more consistent with regards to ball skills in 2021. He had some issues with drops in 2020 that have seemingly been overcome. He does a good job of tracking the deep ball while in flight.

Football IQ: His football IQ is good. He knows how to adjust his route to get to the sticks in situational football. When he is underneath, he is cognizant of coverage and knows how to “sit his route down.”

Versatility: He brings sufficient versatility to the position. He has the size and ability to defeat press coverage to remain outside. He could also be a big slot receiver and used in a variety of ways.

Competitive Toughness: He displays good competitive toughness. He is extremely competitive at the catch point. Nothing appears glaring in his ability to catch the ball when contact is imminent.

Big Play Ability: He is a big-play threat whenever it is thrown his way. Because of his good speed, he is a threat to take the top off the defense. His big-play ability will only help an offense’s running game.

SCOUT GRADES

TDN Consensus: 72.13/100 (Fourth Round Value)

Crabbs Grade: 71.00/100

Marino Grade: 71.00/100

Harris Grade: 76.00/100

Sanchez Grade: 70.50/100

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 13:47
by paco

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 13:48
by Realist
salmar80 wrote:
30 Apr 2022 13:35
go pak go wrote:
30 Apr 2022 13:17
Realist wrote:
30 Apr 2022 13:10


Are there any picks u don't love love love?
Not this weekend.

This is a celebration. Have fun dude. There is plenty of time during the year to be pessimistic.
It's the weekend of :beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2:

It's real easy to hate on picks. Especially later ones. Most of the prospects won't work out eventually, and if you hate on them early, you can get an easy "I told you so!" -gratification moment. But that also means your favorite team has gotten worse, so it's a personal gratification dish with heavy salt.

I, personally, am not elated with how the 22nd pick and the early run on WRs went. Seems to me like a sub-optimal 1st round for us. But I won't hate on Quay. I dislike the premium we paid to trade up for Watson, but I do like the pick. After the first round, I'm mostly along for the ride. No deep knowledge on these guys, so why not enjoy the promise they have instead of them obviously having negatives.

I guess I'm just not a fan of hating overall.
I never mentioned hate in any way. I am love love loving this draft. I was just making an observation regarding the guy's buttery reaction to every pick. Good draft so far imo.

Re: Round 4 - Pick #132, Romeo Doubs, WR, Nevada

Posted: 30 Apr 2022 13:59
by go pak go
Realist wrote:
30 Apr 2022 13:48
I never mentioned hate in any way. I am love love loving this draft. I was just making an observation regarding the guy's buttery reaction to every pick. Good draft so far imo.
I wanted Jermaine Johnson at 22. He was always my number draft crush. I just thought he was a top 15 guy for sure or the position didn't make sense for us to trade up. I never dreamed we had a shot at him.

I thought the value of Walker at 22 was really bad and we could have traded back to get more value.

I also said pre-draft that Wyatt was off my draft board.

But I don't b*tch this weekend. I also don't b*tch about bad picks during the season or harp on one move for 6 years straight unless a pattern starts to develop. You will start to hear me say "time to move on" or complain after patterns develop.