Divisional Round Games

[YoHoChecko]

Whew, good thing Buffalo didn't take a rookie kicker into the divisional round. Glad they had their trusted vet.

[wallyuwl]

Whew, good thing Buffalo didn't take a rookie kicker into the divisional round. Glad they had their trusted vet.

Yeah he chocked. The rook did, too. Only the rook missed 13 other times this season, too.

[YoHoChecko]

[mention]Drj820[/mention] howdid the NFL TSwift collab impact that kick so much???

[Drj820]

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[Drj820]

@Drj820 howdid the NFL TSwift collab impact that kick so much???

Wind machine turned on turbo

[Drj820]

The bills are just like us over last decade

The chiefs are our niners

[RingoCStarrQB]

I’d be fine if every fumble went to the defense if it wasn’t recovered by the offense. The most important thing on the field is the ball, the most important part of the field is the endzone. Lose it in enemy territory , you’ve lost it. I think it’s a great rule.

Me too. Fumbling should be punished.

[lake shark]

The bills are just like us over last decade

The chiefs are our niners

I hopped on to say this as well, really sucks for both teams to get knocked out repeatedly by the same team year after year in winnable games. At least the Packers aren’t cursed by the smoking man.

[williewasgreat]

Hate that fumble out of the end zone rule with a passion.

They absolutely need to change that rule.

Easy fix, don't fumble!

[Half Empty]

But the league cannot award a defense with possession when they never gained possession of the ball.

You can make the same argument that the offense lost possession and didn’t recover it.

I’m with @YoHoChecko. The impetus is on the offense to retain possession. If the defense makes a play causing them to lose possession and it goes through the endzone, they should receive the reward.

The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?

[williewasgreat]

But the league cannot award a defense with possession when they never gained possession of the ball.

You can make the same argument that the offense lost possession and didn’t recover it.

I’m with @YoHoChecko. The impetus is on the offense to retain possession. If the defense makes a play causing them to lose possession and it goes through the endzone, they should receive the reward.

The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?

The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.

[Yoop]

You can make the same argument that the offense lost possession and didn’t recover it.

I’m with @YoHoChecko. The impetus is on the offense to retain possession. If the defense makes a play causing them to lose possession and it goes through the endzone, they should receive the reward.

The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?

The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.

thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep up

[go pak go]

The offense gets to retain possession when fumbling out of bounds, right? Should that be changed?

The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.

thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep up

The rules have never changed on this.

fumble out of bounds anywhere on the field stays with the offense without a clear defensive recovery
fumble out of bounds in your EZ is a safety
fumble out of bounds into the opponent's EZ is an automatic loss of possesion and the ball is placed on the 20 yardline for the opposing team

[Yoop]

The endzone and out of bounds are not the same. If the offense fumbles out of the endzone in their own endzone it is a safety. The endzones are, and rightfully should be, treated differently.

thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep up

The rules have never changed on this.

fumble out of bounds anywhere on the field stays with the offense without a clear defensive recovery
fumble out of bounds in your EZ is a safety
fumble out of bounds into the opponent's EZ is an automatic loss of possesion and the ball is placed on the 20 yardline for the opposing team

last one is confusing, if a player crosses the goal line it's a TD, what happens with the ball after he scores is what????

I believe your referencing that if the player fumbles prior to scoring and the ball enters the EZ but then goes out of bounds it's what? a turnover and the ball is placed on the 20, thats sounds right,

again so many rule changes, saying these have never changed, why would I know that? thats why I asked. thanks, I think.

[go pak go]

thanks for the explanation, as I understand the rules, whomever has possession in the field of play retains the fumble, in the EZ, your own end zone a fumble is the same as a safety when it goes out of bounds, and when it's the opponents EZ the ball becomes a dead ball once it crosses the goal line, is what I'am saying right?, so many rule changes I can't keep up

The rules have never changed on this.

fumble out of bounds anywhere on the field stays with the offense without a clear defensive recovery
fumble out of bounds in your EZ is a safety
fumble out of bounds into the opponent's EZ is an automatic loss of possesion and the ball is placed on the 20 yardline for the opposing team

last one is confusing, if a player crosses the goal line it's a TD, what happens with the ball after he scores is what????

I believe your referencing that if the player fumbles prior to scoring and the ball enters the EZ but then goes out of bounds it's what? a turnover and the ball is placed on the 20, thats sounds right,

again so many rule changes, saying these have never changed, why would I know that? thats why I asked. thanks, I think.

last one is confusing, if a player crosses the goal line it's a TD, what happens with the ball after he scores is what????

The ball is placed for an extra point if the player crosses the goalline.

I believe your referencing that if the player fumbles prior to scoring and the ball enters the EZ but then goes out of bounds it's what? a turnover and the ball is placed on the 20, thats sounds right,

Correct. If a player is about to score but fumbles prior to EZ and ball leaves offensive player control and subsequently goes out of bounds beyond the pylon...it is the defense's ball as a touchback (ball at 20 yardline for opponent)

again so many rule changes, saying these have never changed, why would I know that? thats why I asked. thanks, I think.

No rule changes. It has been this way for at least my entire lifetime. If not forever.

[Yoop]

The ball is placed for an extra point if the player crosses the goalline.

no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,

the question that matters, since that was the contested situation with one of the fumbles I saw.

[go pak go]

The ball is placed for an extra point if the player crosses the goalline.

no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,

the question that matters, since that was the contested situation with one of the fumbles I saw.

I keep answering your questions that you keep asking. I tried simplifying by breaking it into three pieces like you stated. I don't know what else to do for you. I will try and answer again.

no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,

The player crossing the goalline is irrelevant. It is the ball that is relevant.

If the ball crosses the goalline and is in possession of the offensive player...it is a Touchdown and the ball is placed for an extra point attempt.

If the ball crosses the goalline and is not in the possession of the offensive player...it can be recovered by the offense or defense in bounds. If the ball goes out of bounds in the EZ without clear possession of the offense crossing the goalline, the posession changes to the defense as a touchback (ball at 20)

None of these rules have changed. It has always been this way. It is just obviously we see change of possession due to ball flying out of bounds in the EZ infrequently.

[Pckfn23]

The ball is placed for an extra point if the player crosses the goalline.

no kidding, a two year old knows that, again just answer the dang question with a simple answer, once a player crosses the goal line, is that ball live, or is it then a dead ball, nothing hard about that question,

the question that matters, since that was the contested situation with one of the fumbles I saw.

He did answer the question with a simple answer... You asked what happens with the ball after he scores. That is what happens... It's a TD the moment the ball touches the goal line in the player's possession.

[Labrev]

If the ball crosses the goal line, and a player on offense has control of the ball when it crosses, the play is over in that very instant, and it is a score.

If a loose, live ball crosses goes out of bounds behind the goal line, turnover and touchback.

[BF004]

Hate that fumble out of the end zone rule with a passion.

They absolutely need to change that rule.

Easy fix, don't fumble!

That doesn’t fix a stupid rule.