Lab's annual Mock Offseason

[Cdragon]

now people want to take WR's, so confusing

I think I disagreed with the premise of drafting a player of perceived lesser or no need is how you end up with busts. Busts are just Busts.

I agree, bust are busts, whether you reach or not, the whole dang draft is a crap shoot, less then 30% (guess) ever see a 2nd contract, it's staggeringly unsuccessful albeit as fair to each team as it possibly can be, or so it seems anyway.

imo once you get into the 20's, bottom 3rd of first round, the draft value on your board broadens, just like the remaining rounds, a GM probably has a half doz. players with near exact value to choose from, a position of high priority will be available, and of course it's possible that a blue chipper fell, and is impossible in that GM's mind to pass on, and often it takes me by complete surprise, Justin Harrel was just such a pick, and Teddy paid the price for that gamble, imo GM's do that kind of stuff for DT's every year, it's a supply and demand issue, the good ones are so few. jmo

Teddy shouldn't have gambled on the strength and conditioning staff being idiots, and not let them blow the kids back out.

[Yoop]

I think I disagreed with the premise of drafting a player of perceived lesser or no need is how you end up with busts. Busts are just Busts.

I agree, bust are busts, whether you reach or not, the whole dang draft is a crap shoot, less then 30% (guess) ever see a 2nd contract, it's staggeringly unsuccessful albeit as fair to each team as it possibly can be, or so it seems anyway.

imo once you get into the 20's, bottom 3rd of first round, the draft value on your board broadens, just like the remaining rounds, a GM probably has a half doz. players with near exact value to choose from, a position of high priority will be available, and of course it's possible that a blue chipper fell, and is impossible in that GM's mind to pass on, and often it takes me by complete surprise, Justin Harrel was just such a pick, and Teddy paid the price for that gamble, imo GM's do that kind of stuff for DT's every year, it's a supply and demand issue, the good ones are so few. jmo

Teddy shouldn't have gambled on the strength and conditioning staff being idiots, and not let them blow the kids back out.

you don't know that, those are rumors, in fact could be said Harrel went against the instructions of his trainers, there where rumors about that too

Ted took a shot at a DT because we needed a DT, because good DT's are very hard to find, to me it's just that simple

[APB]

I agree, bust are busts, whether you reach or not, the whole dang draft is a crap shoot, less then 30% (guess) ever see a 2nd contract, it's staggeringly unsuccessful albeit as fair to each team as it possibly can be, or so it seems anyway.

https://www.the33rdteam.com/teams-with- ... contracts/

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[Bogey]

I would love it if we got Payton Wilson.

[YoHoChecko]

https://www.the33rdteam.com/teams-with- ... contracts/



Second Contract Conversion %.png

Wait I read this article and I can’t tell whether it’s measuring second contracts at all in the league (I think it is) or second contracts with the team that drafted them.

Also, the body of the text says the Packers scored the best but the results in the chart have the 49ers at the top and the Packers 4th. I wonder if they continued updating the chart as new data emerged or if they caught AC error or a flaw in their methods.

Anyway, good baseline information for sure

[APB]

https://www.the33rdteam.com/teams-with- ... contracts/



Second Contract Conversion %.png

Wait I read this article and I can’t tell whether it’s measuring second contracts at all in the league (I think it is) or second contracts with the team that drafted them.

Also, the body of the text says the Packers scored the best but the results in the chart have the 49ers at the top and the Packers 4th. I wonder if they continued updating the chart as new data emerged or if they caught AC error or a flaw in their methods.

Anyway, good baseline information for sure

I noticed that, too. My guess is the article conflates the Packers signing their own players and the league signing Packer players. The written dialog certainly conflicts with the chart. The baseline info, tho, is pretty clear.

[Pugger]

As long as Bisaccia is our ST coach I don't see Nixon leaving. Do we need to sign 2 FA safeties? Otherwise nice job.

[Labrev]

Do we need to sign 2 FA safeties? Otherwise nice job.

Honestly yeah, we kinda do. Savage, Owens, and Ford are all hitting FA, so the Safety room is just about empty.

If you are going to go to the FA market to try to bring back a Darnell Savage because we need a starting S, you might as well aim higher.

And IMO a S that eliminates the errors Savage made @SanFran is worth every penny (and yoop says I put a price on winning)!