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Go for it is way more fun for the fans and the players
So there's certainly merit in that take, but I'd prefer to have the 55 FG option + Go for it + punt so your HC has a full set of choices no matter the game situation
Of course, so would I. Not at the expense of <50 accuracy, though. Those kicks should not be a coin flip, they should be next to automatic. Given the choice between the two, I will take the surer thing from shorter distances.
I have to side with those who want a 55 yrd kicker, big are games often decided by 3 points or less, it's a game of match ups, there are times when no matter how good your offense is some defenses are just able to shut it down, thats when that long distance kicker can make a difference, plus Lambeau is not a kicker paradise, a strong leg is needed even at 40 yrds.
Yep. League-wide averages <40 are quickly approaching 90%, if not already there. This was from 2020. Inside 50 is still 75%, so perhaps almost automatic was a bit too harsh.
We are always going to be a bit lower because the nature of Lambeau field being outdoors in the elements of a Northern stadium.
That said kickers shouldnt be missing XPs and kicks inside the 25. Thats unacceptable in todays kicking game. You miss one, things happen every now and again. You miss multiple and you should be replaced.
The description of Packers punter Daniel Whelan's training camp thus far isn't complicated.
"He's kicking the crap out of the ball," Head Coach Matt LaFleur said, matter of factly.
Whelan's job, and the work he's putting in to do it, aren't quite that simple. But the second-year pro is both physically and mentally in a better place than a year ago when the Ireland native was new to the NFL and trying to beat out longtime veteran Pat O'Donnell to stick in Green Bay.
Physically, Whelan said he put on about 7-8 pounds of muscle over the offseason, pushing the weight on his imposing 6-5 frame to 236 – a full 20 pounds bigger than when he arrived in the spring of 2023 from the XFL.
He's done "growing" now, but he does feel a difference in his body and how he's punting the ball while preparing for 2024.
"My bad ball, if I mis-hit a punt, it hangs a little higher, goes a little further than it did last year, which is obviously good," he said. "Yeah, your A ball is great, but you're not going to hit that every time. It's all about that B-plus ball, and if that gets a little better each year, we're in a good place."
That works in the regular season. In the playoffs you need to secure points when you can get them.
IMO to many variables to just say that as flat out truth.
Distance for the 1st? Who is your QB and how good actually is your offense? How is the matchup with your short yardage offense compared to their short yardage defense. Do you feel as a play caller you have a play that will be 80% successful? Time left in the game? How is the game unfolding?
Last year, if the eagles ever kicked instead of going for it at 4 and 1 or less, it would have been the worst call in the history of the NFL. Unless end of game scenario dictated punting wins you the game or FG attempt 99% of the time.
Obviously you don't do it on your own 20 but seriously, I never saw it fail. Did anyone else? I don't know if it ever did. referring to the tush push of course
Obviously you don't do it on your own 20 but seriously, I never saw it fail. Did anyone else? I don't know if it ever did. referring to the tush push of course
in 2022, the Packers Defense stuffed the tush push not once, but twice - super impressive play by Kingsley Enagbare on the 1st one on 3rd down
Yep. League-wide averages <40 are quickly approaching 90%, if not already there. This was from 2020. Inside 50 is still 75%, so perhaps almost automatic was a bit too harsh.
Am I reading something wrong? Didn't realize that 20% of 80-yd FGs were being made
Obviously, to do this in a game they'd have to neutralize the rush somehow, maybe by lining up way back like a punt
Oh yeah, for sure they can do it without someone trying to defend it, you see them get pretty close frequently on kickoffs
Kickoffs are off a tee. FG are off the grass. There’s your difference.
I think you had it right from the beginning. There’s close to 0 probability a FG attempt is anywhere close to complete from beyond 75 yards. I don’t care if the kick is in Denver with a wind at their back. The three step approach and on field trajectory required to clear the defenders make it a near impossibility. Certainly not reasonable enough to trot your kicker out.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I wonder how the NFL would handle the record for longest field goal if someone were ever to make a long fair-catch kick like this. I assume it would be a different category, because it isn't a FG, but I bet the announcers would bring it up a lot whenever they discuss longest FG.
I wonder how the NFL would handle the record for longest field goal if someone were ever to make a long fair-catch kick like this. I assume it would be a different category, because it isn't a FG, but I bet the announcers would bring it up a lot whenever they discuss longest FG.
It counts as a field goal in the official stats.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
I wonder how the NFL would handle the record for longest field goal if someone were ever to make a long fair-catch kick like this. I assume it would be a different category, because it isn't a FG, but I bet the announcers would bring it up a lot whenever they discuss longest FG.
I wonder how the NFL would handle the record for longest field goal if someone were ever to make a long fair-catch kick like this. I assume it would be a different category, because it isn't a FG, but I bet the announcers would bring it up a lot whenever they discuss longest FG.
It counts as a field goal in the official stats.
wow, that seems a little unfair
Seems like an easy way to get the record.
Yes and no. Only 8 attempts since the last mKe in 1976 and of those 8 only 5 would have been records. Record attempting free kicks are very rare.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
referring to the tush push of course
