Lions @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Nov. 3rd, 3:25 PM CST

[Half Empty]

Any properly coached team should win only giving up 17.

So the Bears, Chargers, and Steelers are the only properly coached teams this year?

Ravens the only properly coached team last year?

49ers the only properly coached team in 2022?

Bills in 2021?

No team was properly coached in 2020?

So those are the only teams to give up <18 points and win?

[lupedafiasco]

Two games against NFC North opponents and two embarrassing performances. People can be fooled all they want by the last TD in this game like they can be fooled by the comeback against the Vikings. We got &%$@ stomped by both. This is a bottom feeder team. They beat the easy opponents and look like crap against any semblance of a competitor. We beat the Texans but that was a game they blew more than we won considering the turnover and how we got run over.

Need the bye week. This team plays like a pretender. They commit dumb penalties all day long. Somehow a ton of false starts while at home is embarrassing. Somehow we still don’t understand that Quay needs to be off the field and Cooper needs to be on it. At least we finally figured out it’s time to ride Jacobs on offense but we forgot about it in the 2nd half.

We are in need of a lot of self scouting. Sure we were down Evan Williams and Jaire but I would argue the loss of Jameson Williams is bigger just off of what he provides on a big play threat like Watson is for us.

[Pckfn23]

Any properly coached team should win only giving up 17.

So the Bears, Chargers, and Steelers are the only properly coached teams this year?

Ravens the only properly coached team last year?

49ers the only properly coached team in 2022?

Bills in 2021?

No team was properly coached in 2020?

So those are the only teams to give up <18 points and win?

Those are the teams that have given up 17 points or less a game in a season. Wind and losses.

[RingoCStarrQB]

Penalties. Drops/fumbles. And the back-breaking pick-6 are the whole difference in this game. Just sloppy. Lost a winnable, crucial matchup. Frustrating but we’re get them again.

This wont happen twice on us. We will grow on that, Detroit might get delusional thinking they are close to the SB. Still a long way to go….

I'm not so sure. Jordan needs to snap out of his funk. As does LaCoach.

[Scott4Pack]

Me thinks if we gripe about the details today that we are missing the point.

This Packer team was not prepared for today. Awful execution in too many points. This squad needs a Lombardi-injection as soon as possible. The details matter. Execution means everything.

I don't really know what turned things around last year. But we need some of that beginning tomorrow.

We could and should still get a WC slot. But we need to start playing like the playoff team that we want to be now already.

[Pckfn23]

Me thinks if we gripe about the details today that we are missing the point...
The details matter. Execution means everything.

[MY_TAKE]

Thought Jordan Love played fantastic outside of one play.

This cannot be a common theme though. I really like Jordan Love. He makes alot of great plays and he needs his guys to make more plays for him too. But, going back to the playoff game last year against the niners, there have been too many really bad game changing plays or at minimum close to game changing.

No matter how good you are, if you make to many really bad plays, it will cost you winnable games.

I think he will be ok in the end . I will add that.

[Pckfn23]

Penalties. Drops/fumbles. And the back-breaking pick-6 are the whole difference in this game. Just sloppy. Lost a winnable, crucial matchup. Frustrating but we’re get them again.

This wont happen twice on us. We will grow on that, Detroit might get delusional thinking they are close to the SB. Still a long way to go….

I'm not so sure. Jordan needs to snap out of his funk. As does LaCoach.

So when Malik Willis led us to wins it was in spite of LaCoach?

[MY_TAKE]

Me thinks if we gripe about the details today that we are missing the point...
The details matter. Execution means everything.

I think he means everything offensively. False starts to, poor snaps, to bad int, to dropped balls. Execution.

[Pckfn23]

Thought Jordan Love played fantastic outside of one play.

This cannot be a common theme though. I really like Jordan Love. He makes alot of great plays and he needs his guys to make more plays for him too. But, going back to the playoff game last year against the niners, there have been too many really bad game changing plays or at minimum close to game changing.

No matter how good you are, if you make to many really bad plays, it will cost you winnable games.

I didn't say that.

[Pckfn23]

Me thinks if we gripe about the details today that we are missing the point...
The details matter. Execution means everything.

I think he means everything offensively. False starts to, poor snaps, to bad int, to dropped balls. Execution.

No, the details. If we gripe about the details, we are missing the point, but details matter? That's why I am questioning what that means.

[MY_TAKE]

Thought Jordan Love played fantastic outside of one play.

This cannot be a common theme though. I really like Jordan Love. He makes alot of great plays and he needs his guys to make more plays for him too. But, going back to the playoff game last year against the niners, there have been too many really bad game changing plays or at minimum close to game changing.

No matter how good you are, if you make to many really bad plays, it will cost you winnable games.

Ya, I didn't say that. Not sure why you are attributing that to me??

That was a mistake. I thought I was quoting go pack go. Seriously...Not sure what happened.

[Pckfn23]

This cannot be a common theme though. I really like Jordan Love. He makes alot of great plays and he needs his guys to make more plays for him too. But, going back to the playoff game last year against the niners, there have been too many really bad game changing plays or at minimum close to game changing.

No matter how good you are, if you make to many really bad plays, it will cost you winnable games.

Ya, I didn't say that. Not sure why you are attributing that to me??

That was a mistake. I thought I was quoting go pack go. Seriously...Not sure what happened.

I will agree with you though. Need to be smarter.

[MY_TAKE]

We know what we need to correct. Thought Jordan Love played fantastic outside of one play. I think this team could actually be something. Gonna need to find its magic though.
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I was trying to quote this.

[JKB]

Any properly coached team should win only giving up 17.

So the Bears, Chargers, and Steelers are the only properly coached teams this year?

Ravens the only properly coached team last year?

49ers the only properly coached team in 2022?

Bills in 2021?

No team was properly coached in 2020?

Truth

[musclestang]

This game isn't just an anomaly though. It's the same stuff every game pretty much. My gripes matter LOL. Penalties, drops, dumbass decisions, players not aware of down, distance, spot on field, time on clock etc.

Yes this team has a ton of potential, but at some point they need to put it together and keep it there. This is 2 divisional games we've basically been embarrassed by the visiting team this year in 2 tries. Self inflicted blah, blah, blah.

Trust me, I know. But when is it going to be improved upon? This isn't week 3. it's not good enough against good teams, not even close.

[TheSkeptic]

This game isn't just an anomaly though. It's the same stuff every game pretty much. My gripes matter LOL. Penalties, drops, dumbass decisions, players not aware of down, distance, spot on field, time on clock etc.

Yes this team has a ton of potential, but at some point they need to put it together and keep it there. This is 2 divisional games we've basically been embarrassed by the visiting team this year in 2 tries. Self inflicted blah, blah, blah.

Trust me, I know. But when is it going to be improved upon? This isn't week 3. it's not good enough against good teams, not even close.

I haven't watched the second half yet but a few thing stood out.

First, the entire O needs to stop the penalties. The best way to do that is to yank a player who commits a stupid or careless penalty. Let him watch from the sidelines for a series or even the rest of the game. Until they stop they will be looking at 2nd and 20 a lot. Even a 5 yard penalty on 1st down is inexcusable.

Secondly Love needs to see the defensive players better. He is looking at the receiver and not seeing the defensive double team or a DB on a screen. I don't know if it is a lack of experience or slow thinking, but if he isn't smart enough to be a starting QB then the Packers are screwed.

The Packers desperately need Jaire and Williams back. And Quay Walker needs to step up his game or sit on the bench

[musclestang]

[ And Quay Walker needs to step up his game or sit on the bench

I don't know what it was yesterday, but every time I specifically watched the Linebackers it was horrible. Quay stuck in mud or couldn't disengage at all from a blocker or Wilson or McDuffie overpursuing and getting spun around and having their back to the ball carrier as they flew by. It seemed every play I focused a little on the linebackers it was bad. Even Cooper, saw him just flash thru that line and get stopped stone cold in an instant by the RB. Never saw a guy moving so fast stop so abruptly LOL

I'm sure they had some good plays, but didn't seem to be any that I watched.

[Cdragon]

[ And Quay Walker needs to step up his game or sit on the bench

I don't know what it was yesterday, but every time I specifically watched the Linebackers it was horrible. Quay stuck in mud or couldn't disengage at all from a blocker or Wilson or McDuffie overpursuing and getting spun around and having their back to the ball carrier as they flew by. It seemed every play I focused a little on the linebackers it was bad. Even Cooper, saw him just flash thru that line and get stopped stone cold in an instant by the RB. Never saw a guy moving so fast stop so abruptly LOL

I'm sure they had some good plays, but didn't seem to be any that I watched.

i know Cooper had great coverage of a back out of the backfield down the sideline. As for getting stopped, they play the game too. Everybody gets blocked sometime. I don't think Quay has the vision to control the middle. He's not a grizzled veteran by any means but let the rookies have their shot.

[lupedafiasco]

Another reason why you lose here is because again we just didn’t lean on Jacobs enough. Easily this offenses best player and he ends up with 13 carries for 95 yards. LaFleur and Love need to get in sync about running the ball no reason for him to never have 20 carries. Even down yesterday that was how we were moving the ball best. Especially in those conditions.

Failure on coaching and game plan.