49ers @ Packers GDT: Sunday, Nov. 24th, 3:25 PM CST

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Sunday, November 24th, 3:25 PM CST
Spread: Green Bay Packers -1.5
Over/Under: 47.5




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The Green Bay Packers return to Lambeau Field to take on the San Francisco 49ers.

Green Bay is 34-28-1 (.548) against San Francisco during the regular season, including a 22-11 mark at home.
The Packers have won seven of the last eight regular-season home games against the 49ers.
Green Bay has scored 30-plus points in three of the last four regular-season home games against San Francisco.
Including the postseason, each of the last three games played in Green Bay between the two teams have been decided by three points.
Dating back to 2019, this will be the seventh game (including postseason) between the Packers and 49ers, the most for Green Bay against a non-division opponent over that span.
The Packers (63-30, .667) and 49ers (59-34, .634) have the top regular-season win totals and winning percentages in the NFC since 2019.
This is the 14th time the Packers have hosted the 49ers in the month of November and the first since 2009. Green Bay is 9-4 in those contests, including wins in seven of the last eight.
It will be the third late-afternoon kick time for the Packers this season, having gone 1-1 in the time slot so far. Since 2019, Green Bay is 16-8 in the late afternoon, a .667 winning percentage that ranks No. 6 in the NFL over that span.
Sunday will be the first of three games over a 12-day span for Green Bay as the Packers will play on Thanksgiving night against the Miami Dolphins at Lambeau Field and travel to Detroit to play the Lions on the following Thursday.
Next week will be only the second home Thanksgiving game for the Packers since 1923 (other was in 2015 vs. Chicago).
The NFC North is the only division to have three teams with seven-plus wins. It is also the only division in the NFC and one of only two in the NFL (AFC West) to have three teams over .500. Three of the Packers' final five regular-season games are against division opponents.
WITH THE CALL

FOX Sports, now in its 31st season as an NFL network television partner, will broadcast the game.

Play-by-play man Kevin Burkhardt joins analyst Tom Brady and sideline reporters Erin Andrews and Tom Rinaldi.
The game is also available through NFL Sunday Ticket by YouTube.
All Packers games can be heard on the Packers Radio Network, which is made up of 54 stations in Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois and North and South Dakota. 97.3 The Game – WRNW-Milwaukee is in its third season as the flagship station of the Packers Radio Network. For a map and full listing of radio affiliates, go to packers.com/video/radio-network. Wayne Larrivee (play-by-play), two-time Packers Pro Bowler Larry McCarren (analyst), and three-time Packers Pro Bowler John Kuhn (sideline reporter) call the action. McCarren first joined the team's broadcasts in 1995 and enters his 30th season calling Packers games. After originally being paired together in 1999, McCarren and Larrivee enter their 26th season of broadcasts together. They surpassed Jim Irwin and Max McGee for the most regular-season and postseason games broadcast for the Packers with 313 at the 2018 season opener against Chicago.
The broadcast is also available on Sirius Satellite Radio on channel 85 or 225 or through the app (Packers Radio Network feed).
Compass Media Networks will be broadcasting the game on radio to a national audience with Ted Emrich (play-by-play) and Brian Baldinger (analyst) on the call.

This is an abbreviated version of the Dope Sheet. Read the full version here (PDF).

THE DOPE ON THIS WEEK'S OPPONENT

Packers vs. 49ers:

All-time, regular season: 34-28-1
All-time, postseason: 4-6 (2-2 at home)
All-time, at home (regular season): 22-11 (12-5 at Lambeau)
Streaks: Green Bay has won four of the last five regular-season games played.
Last meeting, NFC Divisional Playoff: Jan. 20, 2024, Levi's Stadium, 49ers won, 24-21
COACHES CAPSULES


Matt LaFleur: 63-30-0, .677; (3-4 postseason); 6th NFL season
Kyle Shanahan: 69-56, .552; (8-4 postseason); 8th NFL season
Head to Head: LaFleur 2-1 vs. Shanahan (0-3 postseason)
vs. Opponent: LaFleur 2-1 vs. 49ers (0-3 postseason); Shanahan 1-3 vs. Packers (3-0 postseason)
MATT LaFLEUR…In his sixth season as the Packers' 15th head coach.

Is in his 16th season in the NFL, having previously served as an offensive coordinator for two seasons (Los Angeles Rams, 2017; Tennessee Titans, 2018), a quarterbacks coach for six seasons (Washington Redskins, 2010-13; Atlanta Falcons, 2015-16), and an offensive assistant for two seasons (Houston Texans, 2008-09).
In his first five seasons leading the Packers, authored one of the greatest starts to a head-coaching career in NFL history. Per the Elias Sports Bureau, his 56 wins are tied for the second most in league history by a head coach in his first five seasons in the NFL, trailing only George Seifert (62 in 1989-93).
Became the first coach in NFL history to post 13-plus wins in three straight seasons and his 39 wins from 2019-21 passed Seifert (38) for the most wins by an NFL head coach in his first three seasons in the league (Elias). His 39 wins are also tied for the second most by a coach over any three-season span in league history, trailing only Andy Reid's 40 wins with the Kansas City Chiefs from 2020-22 and Mike Ditka's 40 wins with the Chicago Bears from 1985-87 (Elias).
In his first season leading the Packers in 2019, became the first coach in club history to lead the team to the playoffs in his debut season. Also led the largest one-year win improvement in team history (plus-seven wins).
KYLE SHANAHAN…In his eighth season as the 49ers' 20th head coach.

Is in his 21st season as an NFL coach, having previously served nine seasons as an offensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons (2015-16), Cleveland Browns (2014), Washington Redskins (2010-13) and Houston Texans (2008-09).
Has led the 49ers to three NFC West Division titles (2019, 2022-23), four trips to the NFC Championship Game (2019, 21-23) and appearances in Super Bowl LIV and LVIII.
Directed an offense that ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in yards gained in six of his nine seasons as an offensive coordinator (2008-09, 2012-13 and 2015-16) and four seasons as head coach of the 49ers (2019, 2021-23).
Named AP Assistant Coach of the Year, Coordinator of the Year by Sporting News and Assistant Coach of the Year by the Pro Football Writers of America in 2016 after helping the Falcons to an NFC South division title and an appearance in Super Bowl LI, and set franchise records in yards per game (415.8), points scored (540), net passing yards per game (295.3) and average yards per play (6.7).

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THE PACKERS-49ERS SERIES

The series between Green Bay and San Francisco began in 1950 when the Packers defeated the 49ers, 25-21, in Green Bay.
After the series-opening loss, San Francisco won 13 of 15 regular-season games between 1950-58, but Green Bay had a run of its own, winning 10 of 11 contests between 1959-64 and nine in a row from 1996-2010.
The Packers and 49ers have played each other 10 times in the postseason, the most matchups between any two teams in NFL playoff history.
In the regular season, Green Bay has won four of the last five games played and seven of the last eight matchups at Lambeau Field.
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from cheesehead TV, couldn't get the link to work????

The time is now to turn the tide in rivalry
Since 1992, they have been the two most dominant teams in the NFC. In that time span, they have combined for 26 division titles (Packers - 15, 49ers - 11), 20 NFC Championship game appearances (49ers - 11, Packers - 9), seven NFC titles (SF - 4, GB - 3) and three Super Bowl titles (GB - 2, SF - 1). The only other NFC team close to those numbers since the early 90’s is the Philadelphia Eagles.

In the last 30 years, no two NFL teams have met in the playoffs more than the Packers and 49ers. In fact, the 10 playoff matchups between the two historic franchises (all since 1995) are the most in NFL History. The 49ers lead the series 6-4, winners of the last five meetings. The two teams have met at least two times in each of the three rounds of the playoffs, with the most matchups being in the divisional round.

The 49ers, who made their third straight NFC Championship game last year, are 5-5 and are fading in the NFC playoff picture, two games back of the Packers. For the Packers, Sunday will be a chance at a home win against another potential NFC playoff team. In three home games against NFC teams, the Packers are just 1-2, with the win being against the Arizona Cardinals and losses against the division rival Minnesota Vikings and Detroit Lions.

Coming off his fifth career game-winning drive in Sunday’s win against the Chicago Bears, Love will look to lead his team to a victory over the 49ers for the first time as a starter. A win on Sunday could be a bit of redemption for last year’s playoff defeat, as well as give the Packers a critical win over a team they could be vying with for a playoff spot.

Having fourth quarter performances more reminiscent of the Texans or Bears games, rather than last season’s 49ers game, will likely be a big determining factor in Sunday’s game.

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This game is bringing back when we beat an injury-depleted SF in 2020. I was glad we won of course, but it did not feel like we excised the demon; we just took advantage of them being too weak to beat us. I'm not really into the "break the curse" or "revenge" talk I am seeing from some GB fans this week, either, because SF is too beat up for that to be meaningful, albeit not as much as the 2020 version.

With that said, kill them in their cradle!! A loss here probably hurts their playoff odds badly, and frankly, at this point I rather just avoid them entirely. I do not want revenge badly enough to risk yet another crushing playoff loss at the hands of this team.
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Wonder what Saleh can bring for this game.
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LFG!!!! I live in the SF Bay Area and I’m sick of heartbreaking losses to these guys. I’m really hoping the Pack D woke up after the Bears game and absolutely pummels the 49ers. That being said they will be desperate, Purdy is very good, and it will not be easy. At least we don’t have the irony of getting beat by an Anders Carlson field goal.

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Packers vs 49ers 96 playoff game for the ages

Desmond Howard 4:10
Desmond Howard 16:45
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Desmond Howard needs a clean jersey, misses 2nd half kickoff 1:11:44

IT. IS. TIME

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I'm just treating this like we need to do what we should do - win.

Last week was a sign that maybe we are cleaning up on offense and not letting RZ penalties and turnovers kill us. We need to stop leaving so many points on the field.

Want to see Kraft compete well against Kittle. And Love with Purdy.

Is Trent Williams likely to miss? That would be huge.

I'll be on the road all day, driving up to the frozen tundra (Marshfield anyhow) to visit family. So I won't be able to watch live. Hoping all of you enjoy a wonderful weekend and a big Packer victory!
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I don't know if I would categorize this game as a curse breaker. Most of the players on both sides were not around back then. This is just a very winnable game against a beat up team and we are at home. As long as we don't turn it over and commit stupid penalties I like our chances. Of course a desperate team like SF can be dangerous. Their season is truly on the line. I expect a close game.

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Pugger wrote:
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I don't know if I would categorize this game as a curse breaker. Most of the players on both sides were not around back then. This is just a very winnable game against a beat up team and we are at home. As long as we don't turn it over and commit stupid penalties I like our chances. Of course a desperate team like SF can be dangerous. Their season is truly on the line. I expect a close game.
I think what you said lays a good foundation for most games. Don't turn over the ball and don't commit stupid [excessive] penalties. I think with a talented team like this, they'll be very competitive every game if that holds. And sometimes they'll even overwhelm the other teams.
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Now there’s an interesting development…


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The cornerback position is one of the weakest in nfl without Jaire.

We traded away a quality corner last year

We did not make a move for a corner after knowing Jaire was dinged up before the deadline

Not making a move for a corner at the deadline May cost the team a Super Bowl as we get diced up in the playoffs with limited pass rush to help the corners

Criminal negligence by the one we aren’t allowed to criticize around here…Gutebumst
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Drj820 wrote:
21 Nov 2024 19:27
The cornerback position is one of the weakest in nfl without Jaire.

We traded away a quality corner last year

We did not make a move for a corner after knowing Jaire was dinged up before the deadline

Not making a move for a corner at the deadline May cost the team a Super Bowl as we get diced up in the playoffs with limited pass rush to help the corners

Criminal negligence by the one we aren’t allowed to criticize around here…Gutebumst
I agree moves have weakened our cornerback position especially with Jaire being banged up but did you truly believe at the beginning of this season this was a Super Bowl caliber team? I felt we were a playoff team but we still have holes to fill to be able to win this division let alone the conference. We have defensive issues and are too inconsistent on offense to contend for a championship this year. I don't think we are too far away however.

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APB wrote:
21 Nov 2024 18:49
Now there’s an interesting development…
We should see some line movement in vegas, that might tell us if Purdy is likely to play.
You can see the line move toward GB this afternoon when the 9ers practice was over... and reports started leaking out.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/matchu ... movements/

We'll know more tomorrow, but " follow the money" is usually pretty good advice
IT. IS. TIME

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Here's Warren Sharp's preview
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https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/b ... ts-totals/


Week 12 Prediction: Packers -2 vs. 49ers

Packers running back Josh Jacobs is coming off an impressive performance, averaging 7.3 yards per carry in his last outing and racking up 95 yards in his previous home game against the Lions, showcasing his ability to dominate at Lambeau.
This ground game aligns perfectly with the 49ers' recent struggles against the run.

San Francisco's defense has shown vulnerabilities, allowing 184 yards to the Chiefs and an average of 6.3 yards per carry between both the Cardinals and Vikings. If this trend continues, Jacobs could have a field day, keeping the chains moving and the clock running in Green Bay's favor.

While the ground game sets the foundation, it's the Packers' passing attack that could truly blow this game open.

Jordan Love has proven he can stretch the field with an average depth of target of 9.5 yards (fourth-highest in the NFL) and 16 yards per attempt on deep throws (fifth-highest).

Love's connection with wide receiver Christian Watson has been particularly explosive. In their last game, Watson hauled in four receptions for a staggering 150 yards, demonstrating the big-play potential that could prove devastating against a 49ers secondary.

San Francisco's defense, once considered elite, has shown cracks in recent weeks.

They allowed Seattle's Geno Smith to orchestrate a game-winning drive, completing 7 of 8 passes for 54 yards, after giving up 312 passing yards to Smith in their Week 6 road matchup.

Adding to San Francisco's concerns, Brock Purdy is reportedly dealing with a sore throwing shoulder. Kyle Shanahan has listed him as day-to-day, casting doubt on his effectiveness even if he does play.

The Packers' pass rush, led by Rashan Gary, could capitalize on this vulnerability.

Green Bay's pressure has been suffocating this season, allowing a 49% completion rate and 4.4 yards per attempt when they get to the quarterback, both second-best in the league.


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Pugger wrote:
21 Nov 2024 19:55
Drj820 wrote:
21 Nov 2024 19:27
The cornerback position is one of the weakest in nfl without Jaire.

We traded away a quality corner last year

We did not make a move for a corner after knowing Jaire was dinged up before the deadline

Not making a move for a corner at the deadline May cost the team a Super Bowl as we get diced up in the playoffs with limited pass rush to help the corners

Criminal negligence by the one we aren’t allowed to criticize around here…Gutebumst
I agree moves have weakened our cornerback position especially with Jaire being banged up but did you truly believe at the beginning of this season this was a Super Bowl caliber team? I felt we were a playoff team but we still have holes to fill to be able to win this division let alone the conference. We have defensive issues and are too inconsistent on offense to contend for a championship this year. I don't think we are too far away however.
The question you asked in your first sentence?

Yes, absolutely.

The rest of your msg is nothing more than the same thing you can say about any other roster in the league and an unwillingness to commit to believing in this team. Tsk, tsk…

The msg you responded to?

Pfft.

Ignore it.

Armchair QBing with hindsight as his crutch. It’s easy to quibble over what might have been and unfortunately some posters relish in it. It’s an easier game to play as a fan when you hedge your bets for coming up short, as 31 teams do every single year.

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APB wrote:
21 Nov 2024 22:56
Pugger wrote:
21 Nov 2024 19:55
Drj820 wrote:
21 Nov 2024 19:27
The cornerback position is one of the weakest in nfl without Jaire.

We traded away a quality corner last year

We did not make a move for a corner after knowing Jaire was dinged up before the deadline

Not making a move for a corner at the deadline May cost the team a Super Bowl as we get diced up in the playoffs with limited pass rush to help the corners

Criminal negligence by the one we aren’t allowed to criticize around here…Gutebumst
I agree moves have weakened our cornerback position especially with Jaire being banged up but did you truly believe at the beginning of this season this was a Super Bowl caliber team? I felt we were a playoff team but we still have holes to fill to be able to win this division let alone the conference. We have defensive issues and are too inconsistent on offense to contend for a championship this year. I don't think we are too far away however.
The question you asked in your first sentence?

Yes, absolutely.

The rest of your msg is nothing more than the same thing you can say about any other roster in the league and an unwillingness to commit to believing in this team. Tsk, tsk…

The msg you responded to?

Pfft.

Ignore it.

Armchair QBing with hindsight as his crutch. It’s easy to quibble over what might have been and unfortunately some posters relish in it. It’s an easier game to play as a fan when you hedge your bets for coming up short, as 31 teams do every single year.
Any other roster? Really? I like our team and we have talent but I just don't feel we are a SB caliber team - yet. I was responding to Drj who suggested because we didn't address the cornerback position at the trade deadline that cost our SB chances, that's all.

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Pugger wrote:
22 Nov 2024 06:51
APB wrote:
21 Nov 2024 22:56
Pugger wrote:
21 Nov 2024 19:55


I agree moves have weakened our cornerback position especially with Jaire being banged up but did you truly believe at the beginning of this season this was a Super Bowl caliber team? I felt we were a playoff team but we still have holes to fill to be able to win this division let alone the conference. We have defensive issues and are too inconsistent on offense to contend for a championship this year. I don't think we are too far away however.
The question you asked in your first sentence?

Yes, absolutely.

The rest of your msg is nothing more than the same thing you can say about any other roster in the league and an unwillingness to commit to believing in this team. Tsk, tsk…

The msg you responded to?

Pfft.

Ignore it.

Armchair QBing with hindsight as his crutch. It’s easy to quibble over what might have been and unfortunately some posters relish in it. It’s an easier game to play as a fan when you hedge your bets for coming up short, as 31 teams do every single year.
Any other roster? Really? I like our team and we have talent but I just don't feel we are a SB caliber team - yet. I was responding to Drj who suggested because we didn't address the cornerback position at the trade deadline that cost our SB chances, that's all.
Right now nobody is a Super Bowl team. There are 7 regular season games left for us and most likely 3 playoff games. Time enough for the dynamics of every contending team to change, maybe drastically. Rookies can get better, people can grow into their roles. The team can get hot. Our opponents will have injuries. A lot of racing luck goes into this.

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Cdragon wrote:
22 Nov 2024 07:35
Pugger wrote:
22 Nov 2024 06:51
APB wrote:
21 Nov 2024 22:56


The question you asked in your first sentence?

Yes, absolutely.

The rest of your msg is nothing more than the same thing you can say about any other roster in the league and an unwillingness to commit to believing in this team. Tsk, tsk…

The msg you responded to?

Pfft.

Ignore it.

Armchair QBing with hindsight as his crutch. It’s easy to quibble over what might have been and unfortunately some posters relish in it. It’s an easier game to play as a fan when you hedge your bets for coming up short, as 31 teams do every single year.
Any other roster? Really? I like our team and we have talent but I just don't feel we are a SB caliber team - yet. I was responding to Drj who suggested because we didn't address the cornerback position at the trade deadline that cost our SB chances, that's all.
Right now nobody is a Super Bowl team. There are 7 regular season games left for us and most likely 3 playoff games. Time enough for the dynamics of every contending team to change, maybe drastically. Rookies can get better, people can grow into their roles. The team can get hot. Our opponents will have injuries. A lot of racing luck goes into this.
Yes, things can and will change. But right now the odds of KC, Buffalo and Detroit making the SB are better than ours. These next 7 weeks will be interesting to say the least.

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Pugger wrote:
22 Nov 2024 09:44
Cdragon wrote:
22 Nov 2024 07:35
Pugger wrote:
22 Nov 2024 06:51


Any other roster? Really? I like our team and we have talent but I just don't feel we are a SB caliber team - yet. I was responding to Drj who suggested because we didn't address the cornerback position at the trade deadline that cost our SB chances, that's all.
Right now nobody is a Super Bowl team. There are 7 regular season games left for us and most likely 3 playoff games. Time enough for the dynamics of every contending team to change, maybe drastically. Rookies can get better, people can grow into their roles. The team can get hot. Our opponents will have injuries. A lot of racing luck goes into this.
Yes, things can and will change. But right now the odds of KC, Buffalo and Detroit making the SB are better than ours. These next 7 weeks will be interesting to say the least.
But in reality we don't care about Buffalo or KC. They won't have a say in our playoff run until the Super Bowl. Right now Detroit looks like top in the NFC, but we can beat them. I don't see the NFC south or west throwing out world beaters. Philly and Wash? Maybe, they are contenders now what will they be 7 games from now? Minny doesn't look special. We need to get 10 wins, heal up, play smarter, and roll the dice.

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