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[wallyuwl]

Both Nixon and Sullivan improved late season...

Sullivan? I think you mean Valentine. Chandon Sullivan left the Packers in 2022.

Bring him back. Make the Packers Great Again

[Pugger]

I’d be on board with Davante returning, I lived about 5 miles from him when he had a house in Danville, CA. Solid dude. I just think he will have a lot of suitors and Gutey will have to pay more than he wants.

I too suspect another team will offer Davante more than Gute will be comfortable in paying. Davante is still a top WR and would be a good mentor in our WR room but I doubt we'll see him in G&G any time soon.

[Pugger]

BPA.

I'm with you actually. GMs who reach for need over quality usually end up getting burned.

[Yoop]

BPA.

JMO,at slot 23 it's near impossible not to have about 5 or 6 players fit that BPA scenario, it's not the same as the top 8 or so first tier group, or after about to 30 or so, and team have to prioritize weaker positions

I get that we groom 1st rounders at some positions simply because those positions are tougher transitions, but there still positions of need

It's an age-old argument. I was making a joke about it. Gutekunst has specifically discussed this as plainly as one can, especially in Round 1. The Packers take account of position of need when stacking the board. Their BPA isn't for an expansion team with no one on the roster, it is for the Green Bay Packers. Need definitely plays a big part.

I suppose I should have caught that with the hide behind the couch emo, but I'am terrible at reading between the lines of internet sarcasm, and didn't realize Guty made those comments, and sense that has always been such a misunderstood reality for most football fans and another of my pet peves I reacted as soon as I saw BPA, sorry

[wallyuwl]

I’d be on board with Davante returning, I lived about 5 miles from him when he had a house in Danville, CA. Solid dude. I just think he will have a lot of suitors and Gutey will have to pay more than he wants.

I think it depends how much he believes in Love. He saw the grass isn't greener, and got his payday. He doesn't have many years left and likely wants to win even if it costs a little $$$. But it all rests on how much he believes in Love.

[Yoop]

BPA.

I'm with you actually. GMs who reach for need over quality usually end up getting burned.

but do they actually reach? again Pugger unless we are drafting top 10, and even then, chances are there are more than just one BPA candidate, the grades are that close. for instance when we took Raji at the 9th slot, many said WR Crabtree was the BPA, two completely different positions,we were installing a new defensive scheme and needed DL players, so while the grades were close, our needs made the choice easier to make, and Raji was a stud till his rotator cuff injury, and CRabtree never became more than just a good receiver

B.J. Raji was the ninth overall pick in the first round of the 2009 NFL draft by the Green Bay Packers. Clay Matthews III was also a first-round pick in 2009. Both Raji and Matthews were named to the All-Rookie Team in 2009, Crabtree didn't even receive an honorable mention

[Pckfn23]

What the media draftniks say is BPA and what any given team's BPA is, is not the same. The reach or steal designation is based on those outside the NFL looking in.

[wallyuwl]

What the media draftniks say is BPA and what any given team's BPA is, is not the same. The reach or steal designation is based on those outside the NFL looking in.

And, as yoop said, except for the top guys they are all broken into tiers not sequential rank order.

[Pugger]

BPA.

I'm with you actually. GMs who reach for need over quality usually end up getting burned.

but do they actually reach? again Pugger unless we are drafting top 10, and even then, chances are there are more than just one BPA candidate, the grades are that close. for instance when we took Raji at the 9th slot, many said WR Crabtree was the BPA, two completely different positions,we were installing a new defensive scheme and needed DL players, so while the grades were close, our needs made the choice easier to make, and Raji was a stud till his rotator cuff injury, and CRabtree never became more than just a good receiver

B.J. Raji was the ninth overall pick in the first round of the 2009 NFL draft by the Green Bay Packers. Clay Matthews III was also a first-round pick in 2009. Both Raji and Matthews were named to the All-Rookie Team in 2009, Crabtree didn't even receive an honorable mention

I was speaking in general terms and not specifically about Gute.

[Labrev]

Who Should Packers Take In First Round?

lastwordonsports.com/mel-kiper-thinks-edge-rusher-is-good-fit-for-packers

I mean, it depends on who is available, but I will say, I think that CB is our top need hands-down. An EDGE is certainly sensible and helps fulfill the same goal as a CB in that you are drafting a guy whose job is primarily to help your pass defense (they also help in the run, but that is the lesser of their roles).

But I think a new DL coach might do more for DE (and DT for that matter) than personnel additions. We actually have a lot of young guys with some talent: Brooks, Wyatt, LVN, Enagbare, Wooden, Cox, Mosby. If we can unlock and get a little more out of just a couple of those guys, our pass-rush can improve a lot. And then you do at least have Gary and Clark.

OTOH, the talent deficit at CB is way worse. I expect Jaire is on the outs. Stokes, pfft. I think Nixon is better than he gets credit for and is fine as a starting outside corner, and Valentine is also viable albeit a run liability.

Then it falls off a cliff. We do have Bullard for the slot, but then you have no one. CBs also get injured a lot.

And by all accounts, losing Ja really limited Haf's defense, because he no longer had a guy who could just cover his guy and be fine without help.

Jahde Barron looks like an attractive prospect. I think he has everything you look for at corner.

[APB]

OTOH, the talent deficit at CB is way worse. I expect Jaire is on the outs. Stokes, pfft. I think Nixon is better than he gets credit for and is fine as a starting outside corner, and Valentine is also viable albeit a run liability.

Then it falls off a cliff. We do have Bullard for the slot, but then you have no one. CBs also get injured a lot.

I don’t have any real evidence to support the notion but I think Kalen King is gonna surprise some people next TC.

[lupedafiasco]

OTOH, the talent deficit at CB is way worse. I expect Jaire is on the outs. Stokes, pfft. I think Nixon is better than he gets credit for and is fine as a starting outside corner, and Valentine is also viable albeit a run liability.

Then it falls off a cliff. We do have Bullard for the slot, but then you have no one. CBs also get injured a lot.

I don’t have any real evidence to support the notion but I think Kalen King is gonna surprise some people next TC.

I think he will too but if we learn anything from last year and how WR went we can’t just rely on guys taking a step if there is no answer present on the roster. CB needs to be heavily invested in. We are one injury away from probably having the worst CB crew in the league given that Alexander is probably fine.

[APB]

OTOH, the talent deficit at CB is way worse. I expect Jaire is on the outs. Stokes, pfft. I think Nixon is better than he gets credit for and is fine as a starting outside corner, and Valentine is also viable albeit a run liability.

Then it falls off a cliff. We do have Bullard for the slot, but then you have no one. CBs also get injured a lot.

I don’t have any real evidence to support the notion but I think Kalen King is gonna surprise some people next TC.

I think he will too but if we learn anything from last year and how WR went we can’t just rely on guys taking a step if there is no answer present on the roster. CB needs to be heavily invested in. We are one injury away from probably having the worst CB crew in the league given that Alexander is probably fine.

Oh, I’m not saying they shouldn’t address the room. Not by a long shot. They definitely need to add to the CB room. I’m just saying I think King is gonna surprise a lot of people.

[APB]

Not inaccurate.

[wallyuwl]

Not inaccurate.

Noone likes high RAS guys that can't play football more than Gute

[TheSkeptic]

The Packers need a CB, a WR and an Olineman in that order. It is way too early to be choosing a particular player for the #23 pick. In fact, even Gute won't know who he will pick until 20 or so other teams have already made their selection on April 24th.

Personally I would prefer if the Packers traded down into the 2nd round. Save that 7th round comp pick and trade up the other 7th, the 6th and the 5th to put all the draft picks in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds.

Oh, 1 more thing. Find a different long snapper among the UDFA's.

[Acrobat]

I'm actually at the point where I don't care what position we take, but for the love of god, could we please hit on this one and this player turn into a top 5 player at their position?

[go pak go]

I'm actually at the point where I don't care what position we take, but for the love of god, could we please hit on this one and this player turn into a top 5 player at their position?

Amen. Position doesn't matter. Hitting on the pick matters. The only thing that matters is hitting the pick. Turning attention to shore up a position is worthless if the player we select sucks.

[wallyuwl]

I'm actually at the point where I don't care what position we take, but for the love of god, could we please hit on this one and this player turn into a top 5 player at their position?

Amen. Position doesn't matter. Hitting on the pick matters. The only thing that matters is hitting the pick. Turning attention to shore up a position is worthless if the player we select sucks.

Yup. See 2015.

Would be nice if the pick both hit and didn't take 6 years to bear some fruit, too.

[go pak go]

I'm actually at the point where I don't care what position we take, but for the love of god, could we please hit on this one and this player turn into a top 5 player at their position?

Amen. Position doesn't matter. Hitting on the pick matters. The only thing that matters is hitting the pick. Turning attention to shore up a position is worthless if the player we select sucks.

Yup. See 2015.

Would be nice if the pick both hit and didn't take 6 years to bear some fruit, too.

Everything okay personally?

Noticing you are always having to add a condensending comment on every post regarding your favorite team.