Packers resign Isiah McDuffie- 2 years $8 Million

[Pckfn23]

One thing not getting much attention in all this is that last year’s R3 LB draft pick is apparently not ready for the big stage.

Ty’ron Hopper was the supposed solution to the expiring LB contracts this year. Now we see Gutekunst signing McDuffie to an extension. So what’s that say about confidence in Hopper?

We are losing Eric Wilson, so it might just mean McDuffie is a reliable if average backup for our linebackers. Maybe.

[Yoop]

C. Only reason being is they should be looking to swing for an upgrade at base LB and this just maintains status quo for a position that outside of Cooper is pretty weak. Status quo isn’t terrible but it is t an upgrade either and for more money than a season ago.

we can't swing for improvement at every position, and we should not use this draft on another lber, we need pass rushers, we need WR, CB, we have too many positions to improve as it is.

I know everyone seems to want to replace Walker, but he showed improvement early last year till hurt, and not so bad after getting back to 100%, plus we should expect a 2nd year leap from Hopper, again ILB is not a walk on position unless it's just to be a run stuffer, McDuffy is good depth

[APB]

we can't swing for improvement at every position

There hasn’t been a word invented to describe the level of disagreement I have with the above statement.

[Yoop]

we can't swing for improvement at every position

There hasn’t been a word invented to describe the level of disagreement I have with the above statement.

that's either because you are very rich, or you intend to use your debit card, otherwise it's ass, gas, or cash, nobody rides for free

we only have so much cap space

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we can't swing for improvement at every position

There hasn’t been a word invented to describe the level of disagreement I have with the above statement.

agree

simply not resigning McDuffie and just trying something with more upside, would have been cheaper and taking a swing at improvement.

[go pak go]

I don't know.

Improvement can come from McDuffie himself. Like we say we want a dice roll at a Baun or Campbell situation but that could be McDuffie himself. McDuffie could be that dice roll.

Dude has shown flashes before. He has had big games and his floor is still a solid STs guy and reliable backup. I thought they would keep one of McDuffie or Wilson. Honestly I thought it would be Wilson but I think they are going for the "upside" with the younger guy.

[Yoop]

we can't swing for improvement at every position

There hasn’t been a word invented to describe the level of disagreement I have with the above statement.

agree

simply not resigning McDuffie and just trying something with more upside, would have been cheaper and taking a swing at improvement.

like who, and at what cost? Baun? he will get a lot more than we want to spend, we have Cooper and WAlker, a duo of top 10 and Hopper, a player that probably will see a 2nd year leap, and now McDuffy, who had almost a 100 tackles, 3 PD and a half sack.

yes we always hope to improve on this or that player, and McDuffy is such a player, but again, we only have so much FA money to toss around, and 4 mil. imho will not get us a better player than McDuffy, and that position isn't broken anyway.

[NCF]

One thing not getting much attention in all this is that last year’s R3 LB draft pick is apparently not ready for the big stage.

Ty’ron Hopper was the supposed solution to the expiring LB contracts this year. Now we see Gutekunst signing McDuffie to an extension. So what’s that say about confidence in Hopper?

I actually have high hopes for him, but he has to show it, first.

[lupedafiasco]

I thought Hopper was a massive reach but whatever. My favorite quote about him was “he sure gets to the wrong spot in a hurry” or something like that.

Payton Wilson was an obvious better player still available who was very good as a rookie and of course the retarded one in Gutenbumst went in some random direction.

[Pckfn23]

Do NOT want this guy at all
1. Jeremiah Trotter Jr
2. Mike Sainristil
3. Payton Wilson
4. Blake Corum
5. Austin Estime

[lupedafiasco]

Do NOT want this guy at all
1. Jeremiah Trotter Jr
2. Mike Sainristil
3. Payton Wilson
4. Blake Corum
5. Austin Estime

This was in relation to where they were being mocked. Everyone has a price. At the time people had Wilson gloving end of first to early 2nd. End of 3rd was a steal.

And again you classically show your feminine qualities bringing up old &%$@. I’m actually convinced you are the woman in the photo. Makes a lot of sense.

[go pak go]

And again you classically show your feminine qualities bringing up old &%$@. I’m actually convinced you are the woman in the photo. Makes a lot of sense.

I mean to be fair...what's the difference on you bringing up old sh*t that Brian does compared to brining up old sh*t you have done?

I didn't like the Hopper or Williams pick. Both seemed like incredible reaches. Looks like Brian was a genius with the Williams pick so overall I give his late 3rd and 4th round a passing grade because of Evan Williams.

[Pckfn23]

Do NOT want this guy at all
1. Jeremiah Trotter Jr
2. Mike Sainristil
3. Payton Wilson
4. Blake Corum
5. Austin Estime

This was in relation to where they were being mocked. Everyone has a price. At the time people had Wilson gloving end of first to early 2nd. End of 3rd was a steal.

And again you classically show your feminine qualities bringing up old &%$@. I’m actually convinced you are the woman in the photo. Makes a lot of sense.

Fortunately the topic and post is pretty clear. It is Top 5 guys you do not want AT ALL. It had nothing to do with relation to where they were mocked.
It's pretty convenient to come to the forum and deride Gutekunst for the Hopper pick in the 3rd round and then use hindsight to cherry pick a player that had a better rookie season than Hopper. By your own post prior to the draft Payton Wilson was not the obviously better choice when you yourself said you "DO NOT want this guy at all." It would have been great to have Wilson instead of Hopper, but who knows where Hopper's future lies. I hope he is at least a serviceable starter at some point. I didn't necessarily like the Hopper pick either, but that is neither here nor there, it's all about results. Unfortunately he hasn't given us any.

[lupedafiasco]

And again you classically show your feminine qualities bringing up old &%$@. I’m actually convinced you are the woman in the photo. Makes a lot of sense.

I mean to be fair...what's the difference on you bringing up old sh*t that Brian does compared to brining up old sh*t you have done?

I didn't like the Hopper or Williams pick. Both seemed like incredible reaches. Looks like Brian was a genius with the Williams pick so overall I give his late 3rd and 4th round a passing grade because of Evan Williams.

It became relevant to the conversation. If people don’t pay attention to Gutenbumsts failures we end up with another TT situation where everyone just wants to stupidly be blind to the situation. Gutenbumst has been better lately but he was so atrocious during the Rodgers run it cost us championships. It’s why the last 2 draft expiring draft classes really had nothing worth resigning.

[Yoop]

And again you classically show your feminine qualities bringing up old &%$@. I’m actually convinced you are the woman in the photo. Makes a lot of sense.

I mean to be fair...what's the difference on you bringing up old sh*t that Brian does compared to brining up old sh*t you have done?

I didn't like the Hopper or Williams pick. Both seemed like incredible reaches. Looks like Brian was a genius with the Williams pick so overall I give his late 3rd and 4th round a passing grade because of Evan Williams.

It became relevant to the conversation. If people don’t pay attention to Gutenbumsts failures we end up with another TT situation where everyone just wants to stupidly be blind to the situation. Gutenbumst has been better lately but he was so atrocious during the Rodgers run it cost us championships. It’s why the last 2 draft expiring draft classes really had nothing worth resigning.

nail it bro

like I said so many times, what went on here was almost complete QB abuse

[NCF]

[go pak go]

So McDuffie's contract is actually:

1 Year Contrat for $4.95 Million with a team option of a 2 year contract at $4 million per year.

You then have some accounting cap recognition timing underlying all of it.

[Labrev]

So McDuffie's contract is actually:

1 Year Contrat for $4.95 Million with a team option of a 2 year contract at $4 million per year.

You then have some accounting cap recognition timing underlying all of it.

Okay, this makes it look a lot better to me. I still think it's a bit of an overpay for a player who's pretty replaceable, but @musclestang made a good point that you gotta show your players that they will be rewarded when they put in the work.

I'll give it a B.