Jaire

[paco]

Jaire would love to choose his next spot. But I think his camp knows that even if he's released, nobody is paying him what he wants. It could be a gamble, but it makes sense for him to play and put together a a full season showing he's still a top guy, then he'll get paid. If he's released now, he's likely to have to play on a 1 year prove-it deal someplace else. Play out this year, gamble on yourself, and make a good chunk of money.

[Labrev]

Yeah after this draft, I am way more receptive to keeping Jaire around. I am not surprised they elected not to draft a CB early because we did not need a starter there, but no defense early at all is another thing. Even in Round 2, you can find a guy who can be an impact addition on defense.

We made no such additions on defense in the draft, or FA. Hobbs is a nice add to upgrade over Stokes and shore up a big weakness, might even surprise in his ability to impact the game now that he's part of a better defensive unit, but he's likely not some serious field-tilter there.

The thing for me is I don't like relying on him, then him getting sidelined with injury for a while, not to mention him being unavailable because he's being a diva, then having to re-work everything because you don't have him. So I guess we should draw up our defense like Jaire is not a part of it, and then just enjoy having an extra weapon in the secondary when he actually is available.

[Drj820]

Yeah after this draft, I am way more receptive to keeping Jaire around. I am not surprised they elected not to draft a CB early because we did not need a starter there, but no defense early at all is another thing. Even in Round 2, you can find a guy who can be an impact addition on defense.

We made no such additions on defense in the draft, or FA. Hobbs is a nice add to upgrade over Stokes and shore up a big weakness, might even surprise in his ability to impact the game now that he's part of a better defensive unit, but he's likely not some serious field-tilter there.

The thing for me is I don't like relying on him, then him getting sidelined with injury for a while, not to mention him being unavailable because he's being a diva, then having to re-work everything because you don't have him. So I guess we should draw up our defense like Jaire is not a part of it, and then just enjoy having an extra weapon in the secondary when he actually is available.

we would be retarded to plan on a player with a known injury history to never be injured, but we have done that alot before.

But I consider bringing in a guy like Hobbs to be that contingency plan to still be "okay" when Jaire is out. That is the move you make to cover for Jaire missing some games, not a good plan for if there is no Jaire at all. You have to also factor in inevitable injuries from the group that doesnt include Jaire and when they happen, the group gets horrible fast in a division with DJ Moore, Adunze, Addison, Jefferson, St Brown, Laporta, J Williams, etc. Thats no winning strategy.

Jaire is not a hard guy to just plug and he is already under contract for a lot of money. The situation with him is already bad, but its bad because of our decision to pay him. Therefore if we have to deal with his antics for a year, that just kind of what we have to do as part of the consequence of paying him.

in short: With Jaire the secondary is great, Jaire wont play every game so thats why you sign a guy like Hobbs, With no Jaire the secondary is average when perfectly healthy, the secondary will not stay perfectly healthy because its football and at that point things get bad fast. Jaire is under contract. Make nice for betterment of the W/L column.

[Yoop]

Jaire would love to choose his next spot. But I think his camp knows that even if he's released, nobody is paying him what he wants. It could be a gamble, but it makes sense for him to play and put together a a full season showing he's still a top guy, then he'll get paid. If he's released now, he's likely to have to play on a 1 year prove-it deal someplace else. Play out this year, gamble on yourself, and make a good chunk of money.

we fans want him back, and I think Alexander wants his 24 mil. or whatever it is, but he has been a thorn in Lafleurs side for over two years, playing when he wants, near complete avoidance of physical contact, then to undermine our medical staff, refuse to play, then going outside the organization for a season ending surgery, a coach has to draw the line on this stuff.

which would you as a coach care more about, the CB room, or the respect from all the players? imho that's what this comes down to.

Krafts post season presser rings loud and clear, we have character issues, IMHO he was referring to Alexander.

[Foosball]

Maybe trade for a CB that’s wore out his welcome with another team that wants a new start with a contender.

[APB]

Jaire would love to choose his next spot. But I think his camp knows that even if he's released, nobody is paying him what he wants. It could be a gamble, but it makes sense for him to play and put together a a full season showing he's still a top guy, then he'll get paid. If he's released now, he's likely to have to play on a 1 year prove-it deal someplace else. Play out this year, gamble on yourself, and make a good chunk of money.

we fans want him back, and I think Alexander wants his 24 mil. or whatever it is, but he has been a thorn in Lafleurs side for over two years, playing when he wants, near complete avoidance of physical contact, then to undermine our medical staff, refuse to play, then going outside the organization for a season ending surgery, a coach has to draw the line on this stuff.

which would you as a coach care more about, the CB room, or the respect from all the players? imho that's what this comes down to.

Krafts post season presser rings loud and clear, we have character issues, IMHO he was referring to Alexander.

I’m sure Rob Demovsky would appreciate this post. You summarize his rumor mongering nicely - even build on some of it - all based upon…what exactly?

None of us know what the conversations were surrounding Jaire’s health yet everybody is willing to jump onboard with him “undermining” the Packer staff and doing his own thing. I don’t know about any of you, but in a line of work where health is preeminent to having a lasting career, I would FOR SURE be seeking 2nd (and 3rd) opinions outside the organization which may or may not hold your best health interests as its priority. Especially so considering Jaire had just witnessed what Bakhtiari went though.

Other players on other teams do it all the time. Packer players do it, too! But Jaire is the bad guy because Demovsky frames it as such? Pardon me if I disagree.

His other “immature” antics were characterized as fun loving when Jaire wasn’t public enemy no. 1. Now he’s just a diva jerk? Give me a break.

Demovsky’s X post shared on the previous page show he’s already backtracking on all his “failed relationship” blather. I don’t believe for a minute Jaire and the org were ever serious about a break-up. Were there some issues? No doubt, but nothing to the level any of these outsider “journalists” were privy to. Demovsky simply drummed up the drama and sold it to a Rodgers conditioned fan base looking for the next episode of As the Packers-World Turns. Silverstein too. The rest of them just repeated the rumors enough to make them sound true.

It’s like a script that keeps getting rewritten. Remember how it was he’ll be traded/cut when the new league year starts? Then it was during FA? Then it was during the draft? Pfft. My money says you’ll see them all redefining the nature of their reporting now that it’s become evident they were all wrong.

[RingoCStarrQB]

I'm still rooting for Jaire to give us a 17 game regular season.

[TheSkeptic]

I'm still rooting for Jaire to give us a 17 game regular season.

I would be quite satisfied if he missed half the season but was healthy and stayed healthy for the playoffs.

ALL CB's get hurt. It is inevitable when you have a 190 pound DB having to tackle a 210 pound RB or a 240 pound TE. You try as a DC to avoid that situation as much as possible but it is going to happen a couple of times a game no matter what.

[Yoop]

Jaire would love to choose his next spot. But I think his camp knows that even if he's released, nobody is paying him what he wants. It could be a gamble, but it makes sense for him to play and put together a a full season showing he's still a top guy, then he'll get paid. If he's released now, he's likely to have to play on a 1 year prove-it deal someplace else. Play out this year, gamble on yourself, and make a good chunk of money.

we fans want him back, and I think Alexander wants his 24 mil. or whatever it is, but he has been a thorn in Lafleurs side for over two years, playing when he wants, near complete avoidance of physical contact, then to undermine our medical staff, refuse to play, then going outside the organization for a season ending surgery, a coach has to draw the line on this stuff.

which would you as a coach care more about, the CB room, or the respect from all the players? imho that's what this comes down to.

Krafts post season presser rings loud and clear, we have character issues, IMHO he was referring to Alexander.

I’m sure Rob Demovsky would appreciate this post. You summarize his rumor mongering nicely - even build on some of it - all based upon…what exactly?

None of us know what the conversations were surrounding Jaire’s health yet everybody is willing to jump onboard with him “undermining” the Packer staff and doing his own thing. I don’t know about any of you, but in a line of work where health is preeminent to having a lasting career, I would FOR SURE be seeking 2nd (and 3rd) opinions outside the organization which may or may not hold your best health interests as its priority. Especially so considering Jaire had just witnessed what Bakhtiari went though.

Other players on other teams do it all the time. Packer players do it, too! But Jaire is the bad guy because Demovsky frames it as such? Pardon me if I disagree.

His other “immature” antics were characterized as fun loving when Jaire wasn’t public enemy no. 1. Now he’s just a diva jerk? Give me a break.

Demovsky’s X post shared on the previous page show he’s already backtracking on all his “failed relationship” blather. I don’t believe for a minute Jaire and the org were ever serious about a break-up. Were there some issues? No doubt, but nothing to the level any of these outsider “journalists” were privy to. Demovsky simply drummed up the drama and sold it to a Rodgers conditioned fan base looking for the next episode of As the Packers-World Turns. Silverstein too. The rest of them just repeated the rumors enough to make them sound true.

It’s like a script that keeps getting rewritten. Remember how it was he’ll be traded/cut when the new league year starts? Then it was during FA? Then it was during the draft? Pfft. My money says you’ll see them all redefining the nature of their reporting now that it’s become evident they were all wrong.

first, we all figured a trade might happen at some point just prior to, or during this draft, and since that didn't happen, the option to just keep him remains open, however, he has two years remaining on his contract, latest rumor is the team wants to rework that.

I didn't need to read anything from anyone, Jaire would not play, refused to play, was suspended, and took his woes to some surgeon to end his season, when he could have played and had the surgery in the off season, there is nothing made up or convoluted concerning that, the coaches are the people in the building the most upset with Jaire, rumors, true, however what coach wouldn't be, first he shies away from contact, normal, when your hurt so easily, and refuses to play dinged up.

That means the oft-injured Alexander will have played just 34 of a possible 68 games in the last four seasons (50.0%). In three of those years, Alexander will have played seven games, or less.

reports, yes rumors, said he could have played in some of those games, which I think is probably true

I'am fed up with this prima donna, this is the same ol road we went down with Bahktiari, however in that case no prima donna, the difference is Bahk wanted to play, Jaire just wants to get paid, and his track record backs it up. Sorry, I've run out of compassion, if the coaches still want out, I understand why.

[Acrobat]

Jaire would love to choose his next spot. But I think his camp knows that even if he's released, nobody is paying him what he wants. It could be a gamble, but it makes sense for him to play and put together a a full season showing he's still a top guy, then he'll get paid. If he's released now, he's likely to have to play on a 1 year prove-it deal someplace else. Play out this year, gamble on yourself, and make a good chunk of money.

I think this is the most likely scenario here. Both teams have something to lose with a break up this year. They most likely mutually decided before the draft to just put the issues from last year aside and give it their all for the 2025 season. A good year for Jaire means more negotiating power for him and a better defense for Green Bay.

[Drj820]

Jaire would love to choose his next spot. But I think his camp knows that even if he's released, nobody is paying him what he wants. It could be a gamble, but it makes sense for him to play and put together a a full season showing he's still a top guy, then he'll get paid. If he's released now, he's likely to have to play on a 1 year prove-it deal someplace else. Play out this year, gamble on yourself, and make a good chunk of money.

we fans want him back, and I think Alexander wants his 24 mil. or whatever it is, but he has been a thorn in Lafleurs side for over two years, playing when he wants, near complete avoidance of physical contact, then to undermine our medical staff, refuse to play, then going outside the organization for a season ending surgery, a coach has to draw the line on this stuff.

which would you as a coach care more about, the CB room, or the respect from all the players? imho that's what this comes down to.

Krafts post season presser rings loud and clear, we have character issues, IMHO he was referring to Alexander.

I’m sure Rob Demovsky would appreciate this post. You summarize his rumor mongering nicely - even build on some of it - all based upon…what exactly?

None of us know what the conversations were surrounding Jaire’s health yet everybody is willing to jump onboard with him “undermining” the Packer staff and doing his own thing. I don’t know about any of you, but in a line of work where health is preeminent to having a lasting career, I would FOR SURE be seeking 2nd (and 3rd) opinions outside the organization which may or may not hold your best health interests as its priority. Especially so considering Jaire had just witnessed what Bakhtiari went though.

Other players on other teams do it all the time. Packer players do it, too! But Jaire is the bad guy because Demovsky frames it as such? Pardon me if I disagree.

His other “immature” antics were characterized as fun loving when Jaire wasn’t public enemy no. 1. Now he’s just a diva jerk? Give me a break.

Demovsky’s X post shared on the previous page show he’s already backtracking on all his “failed relationship” blather. I don’t believe for a minute Jaire and the org were ever serious about a break-up. Were there some issues? No doubt, but nothing to the level any of these outsider “journalists” were privy to. Demovsky simply drummed up the drama and sold it to a Rodgers conditioned fan base looking for the next episode of As the Packers-World Turns. Silverstein too. The rest of them just repeated the rumors enough to make them sound true.

It’s like a script that keeps getting rewritten. Remember how it was he’ll be traded/cut when the new league year starts? Then it was during FA? Then it was during the draft? Pfft. My money says you’ll see them all redefining the nature of their reporting now that it’s become evident they were all wrong.

I would like to offer my congratulations. This is my favorite posts of yours ever. I would also like to add to the pile on and say the top reason I hope Jaire comes back is so I can be proven right once again that “blogger Andy” is nothing more than a fan getting info from x takes. Might as well call him “no inside info Andy”.

Good post. These guys know nothing. Probably the least connected group of beat reporters in sports history when you factor in they only have one job in a town with no distractions.

[Drj820]

we fans want him back, and I think Alexander wants his 24 mil. or whatever it is, but he has been a thorn in Lafleurs side for over two years, playing when he wants, near complete avoidance of physical contact, then to undermine our medical staff, refuse to play, then going outside the organization for a season ending surgery, a coach has to draw the line on this stuff.

which would you as a coach care more about, the CB room, or the respect from all the players? imho that's what this comes down to.

Krafts post season presser rings loud and clear, we have character issues, IMHO he was referring to Alexander.

I’m sure Rob Demovsky would appreciate this post. You summarize his rumor mongering nicely - even build on some of it - all based upon…what exactly?

None of us know what the conversations were surrounding Jaire’s health yet everybody is willing to jump onboard with him “undermining” the Packer staff and doing his own thing. I don’t know about any of you, but in a line of work where health is preeminent to having a lasting career, I would FOR SURE be seeking 2nd (and 3rd) opinions outside the organization which may or may not hold your best health interests as its priority. Especially so considering Jaire had just witnessed what Bakhtiari went though.

Other players on other teams do it all the time. Packer players do it, too! But Jaire is the bad guy because Demovsky frames it as such? Pardon me if I disagree.

His other “immature” antics were characterized as fun loving when Jaire wasn’t public enemy no. 1. Now he’s just a diva jerk? Give me a break.

Demovsky’s X post shared on the previous page show he’s already backtracking on all his “failed relationship” blather. I don’t believe for a minute Jaire and the org were ever serious about a break-up. Were there some issues? No doubt, but nothing to the level any of these outsider “journalists” were privy to. Demovsky simply drummed up the drama and sold it to a Rodgers conditioned fan base looking for the next episode of As the Packers-World Turns. Silverstein too. The rest of them just repeated the rumors enough to make them sound true.

It’s like a script that keeps getting rewritten. Remember how it was he’ll be traded/cut when the new league year starts? Then it was during FA? Then it was during the draft? Pfft. My money says you’ll see them all redefining the nature of their reporting now that it’s become evident they were all wrong.

first, we all figured a trade might happen at some point just prior to, or during this draft, and since that didn't happen, the option to just keep him remains open, however, he has two years remaining on his contract, latest rumor is the team wants to rework that.

I didn't need to read anything from anyone, Jaire would not play, refused to play, was suspended, and took his woes to some surgeon to end his season, when he could have played and had the surgery in the off season, there is nothing made up or convoluted concerning that, the coaches are the people in the building the most upset with Jaire, rumors, true, however what coach wouldn't be, first he shies away from contact, normal, when your hurt so easily, and refuses to play dinged up.

That means the oft-injured Alexander will have played just 34 of a possible 68 games in the last four seasons (50.0%). In three of those years, Alexander will have played seven games, or less.

reports, yes rumors, said he could have played in some of those games, which I think is probably true

I'am fed up with this prima donna, this is the same ol road we went down with Bahktiari, however in that case no prima donna, the difference is Bahk wanted to play, Jaire just wants to get paid, and his track record backs it up. Sorry, I've run out of compassion, if the coaches still want out, I understand why.

Il take Jaire over Bakh. Bakh was distracting teammates riding around on tricked out golf carts all training camp acting like he was on hard knocks and then decided to fire off takes on x during games.


Jaire has kept all his drama in house. I respect it way more.

[NCF]

I think all the reporting on the situation has been fine. The problem is the Packers probably haven't settled on their position and neither has Jaire. It's all just rumors and hearsay and it's leaning this way right now. It's really annoying, so I don't get overly invested in these reports and will patiently wait for real news.

On the flip side, this offseason just becomes such a slam dunk if the Packers and Jaire can work this thing out. Even as a part-time player I think Jaire could really, really help this season.

[Yoop]

I just listened to Andy super dooper podcaster Herman ( that's a compliment, not sarcasm, Andy seems as unbiased as any of em) and his take makes the most sense

Jaire drops contract demand to 10 mil. guaranteed, with 500 K for games played, which totals over 18 mil for 17 games, and next years contract is voided.

so it's a prove it deal for this year that pays him well if he plays, if not we are out 10 mil. and a fairwell to go play elsewhere, I'am fine with that.

[Yoop]

Il take Jaire over Bakh. Bakh was distracting teammates riding around on tricked out golf carts all training camp acting like he was on hard knocks and then decided to fire off takes on x during games.


Jaire has kept all his drama in house. I respect it way more.

I'd bet you a donut Bahk's team mates ate that golf cart stuff up

[Pckfn23]

Reporting has been that Jaire has no interest in renegotiating his contract. It was reported that was why no team wanted to trade for him.

[Yoop]

I think all the reporting on the situation has been fine. The problem is the Packers probably haven't settled on their position and neither has Jaire. It's all just rumors and hearsay and it's leaning this way right now. It's really annoying, so I don't get overly invested in these reports and will patiently wait for real news.

On the flip side, this offseason just becomes such a slam dunk if the Packers and Jaire can work this thing out. Even as a part-time player I think Jaire could really, really help this season.

even if Jaire stays, I still think Gute will go outside and bring in another CB, someone not even on the radar, might even cost us a 3rd rounder, just my impression.

[Yoop]

Reporting has been that Jaire has no interest in renegotiating his contract. It was reported that was why no team wanted to trade for him.

He needs to, and Hermans opinion is very logical, he wants a new team and still make 18 mil. this year, then that's the option,

[Pckfn23]

Reporting has been that Jaire has no interest in renegotiating his contract. It was reported that was why no team wanted to trade for him.

He needs to, and Hermans opinion is very logical, he wants a new team and still make 18 mil. this year, then that's the option,

HE doesn't need to do anything. He can play for the Packers and make more than $18 million. Should he play all 17 games and attend all workouts, he is set to make $21,399,999 this season. Should he attend no workouts and play no games he will make $16,150,000.

[Drj820]

Reporting has been that Jaire has no interest in renegotiating his contract. It was reported that was why no team wanted to trade for him.

He needs to, and Hermans opinion is very logical, he wants a new team and still make 18 mil. this year, then that's the option,

we cant reward his refusal to play for us imo unless we get real loot for him. I would rather pay him the 16m and have him sit at home and let him continue to pile up an injury prone reputation if he wants to go that route.

My position is simple:

If the Packers are tired of Jaires antics and want him out the door: they should get over it, we paid him the contract and we need him.

If Jaire is being a turd and refuses to play for us: we should not reward him by cutting him. we should pay him to sit at home and make him seem like a cancer heading into his new deal. Unless we can get trade compensation, then its all good either way.