I always kind of took to heart that young guys have room to improve physically before they are kind of who they are. I remember [mention]Waldo[/mention] did some stuff around this when looking at EDGE guys way back when. I wonder how that truly applies, especially at WR. Do we think some of these younger guys can become faster or more agile? How much so? Or is any difference negligible and guys are pretty much what they will be, physically?
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Bumping, because this is good stuff.BF004 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022 13:37I built up a metric here that will kind of combine Packer traits.
Kind of built off 40 threshold, height/weight, agility, jumping, age, and arm/hand size. Weighted as I saw fit.
I would say the score is most relevant at the top of the draft, it is very highly age weighted, but we have taken a fair amount of older players later in the draft.
But now you don't have to go check 3 cone and RAS and age every time you look at a WR prospect.
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PLAYER COLLEGE SUPER BF AWESOME SCORE Kevin Austin Notre Dame 2.47 Tyquan Thornton Baylor 1.69 Alec Pierce Cincinnati 1.62 George Pickens Georgia 1.24 Drake London Southern California 1.22 Christian Watson North Dakota State 1.17 Romeo Doubs Nevada 1.01 Jameson Williams Alabama 0.99 Makai Polk Mississippi State 0.9 Erik Ezukanma Texas Tech 0.66 Garrett Wilson Ohio State 0.65 Mike Woods Oklahoma 0.64 Dontay Demus Maryland 0.59 Chris Olave Ohio State 0.57 Bo Melton Rutgers 0.5 Devon Williams Oregon 0.46 Skyy Moore Western Michigan 0.44 Khalil Shakir Boise State 0.38 Jayden Reed Michigan State 0.36 Calvin Austin III Memphis 0.31 Jalen Tolbert South Alabama 0.26 Tyler Snead East Carolina 0.25 Treylon Burks Arkansas 0.18 John Metchie Alabama 0.15 Kearis Jackson Georgia 0.13 Danny Gray Southern Methodist 0.1 Ty Fryfogle Indiana 0.04 David Bell Purdue 0.01 Jalen Nailor Michigan State -0.08 Calvin Turner Hawaii -0.09 Jerreth Sterns Western Kentucky -0.09 Braylon Sanders Mississippi -0.15 Emeka Emezie North Carolina State -0.15 K.D. Nixon Southern California -0.32 Jahan Dotson Penn State -0.39 Justyn Ross Clemson -0.46 Charleston Rambo Miami (FL) -0.54 Jaquarii Roberson Wake Forest -0.61 Josh Johnson Tulsa -0.64 Wan'Dale Robinson Kentucky -0.67 Changa Hodge Virginia Tech -0.72 Stanley Berryhill III Arizona -0.72 Tarique Milton Iowa State -0.83 Samori Toure Nebraska -0.83 Kyle Philips UCLA -0.85 Johnny Johnson III Oregon -0.91 Jaivon Heiligh Coastal Carolina -0.97 Velus Jones Jr. Tennessee -0.98 Tay Martin Oklahoma State -1 Tre Turner Virginia Tech -1.13 Reggie Roberson Jr. Southern Methodist -1.36 Britain Covey Utah -1.4 Slade Bolden Alabama -1.53 Dontario Drummond Mississippi -1.57
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I mean that has to be true, I have been liking Drake London more and more recently.NCF wrote: ↑13 Apr 2022 13:47I always kind of took to heart that young guys have room to improve physically before they are kind of who they are. I remember @Waldo did some stuff around this when looking at EDGE guys way back when. I wonder how that truly applies, especially at WR. Do we think some of these younger guys can become faster or more agile? How much so? Or is any difference negligible and guys are pretty much what they will be, physically?
And just as long as he doesn't jump like 31 or something, even 34 would be great, gotta figure he could be a 36-38 guy by the time he turns 23 like some of the others.
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I have always read/heard that 26 is generally the peak age for athletic performance. So, I would say it is very true that there is improvement, especially for the younger guys.
Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
that may be true physically, but there are opinions that the male brain often does not reach full maturity till about middle 30's even 40, if ya don't believe me just ask any Woman
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[mention]Pckfn23[/mention] TWO HOURS? Dang. Did they publish a cliff's notes?
It was pretty good. Both fairly lower on Drake London than the majority without dumping on him. I will say the one thing that I had not heard, at all, that scares the crap out of me is Burks showing up to Spring Practice two years in a row overweight and fighting to play at that 225 range. The last thing we need is Fat Eddie playing WR. Also helped cement who Skyy Moore is for me and that is a very low floor player without any real high end traits to ever be a dominant WR. Really in depth and a good listen, but can't say I learned a ton. I listened in the car. It's worth it if you have two hours to kill.
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Drakes speed is probably the biggest concern but he also isn't close to 6'5". Not a super issue but I hate it when a prospect comes in over an inch shorter than advertised.NCF wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022 12:37It was pretty good. Both fairly lower on Drake London than the majority without dumping on him. I will say the one thing that I had not heard, at all, that scares the crap out of me is Burks showing up to Spring Practice two years in a row overweight and fighting to play at that 225 range. The last thing we need is Fat Eddie playing WR. Also helped cement who Skyy Moore is for me and that is a very low floor player without any real high end traits to ever be a dominant WR. Really in depth and a good listen, but can't say I learned a ton. I listened in the car. It's worth it if you have two hours to kill.