Packers Huddle

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 15:59

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 15:54

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 15:49

It is the same concept and pretty close to same design. The players probably lined up incorrectly.

The pick was poor by Watson but reed got separation. Love had to throw earlier and back shoulder like cousins. Reception was there.

Making more things up claiming that they players probably lined up incorrectly... Ha! All 3 of them? That would just be more reason why the play was $%@# by the execution other than the QB.

Just say you were wrong. It is not the exact same play and the execution by Watson was &%$@ compared to the Vikings' WR. There is very little separation as there is no pick what so ever.

Give this one up because you are looking silly here. Find a new play to criticize Love, he has his fair share. A handful yesterday even.

Lol I am 100% right. Who cares how they lined up. It is still inside wr with outside running pick. 3 receivers to the left. Both running wheels.

Ya... not even close. Who cares how they lined up??? Ha. Alignment is critical for success. In the bunch the Vikings make it easier for their WR to pick. Just because both 3s are running wheels doesn't mean it is the exact same play. The execution by our pick player was awful, theirs knocked our DB on his ass creating the separation Hockenson got.

The concept is the exact same and Love played it crap and cousins played it right.

AH, yes the concept is the same. Pretty much everything else is not. So not that exact same play as you claimed. Alignment different, execution vastly different.

Surtain got caught up behind his own player. Cousins went early back shoulder as design. Love went late and inside.

Surtain didn't get caught up. HA! The concept barely even slowed him down and there was very little separation as Watson $%@# up the pick.

You are insufferable.

You are wrong and can't admit it.

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:00

You are rhe guy that thought Rodgers was the problem. Why would anyone listen to the garbage you write.

You thought Rodgers was the problem.

Yes, thank you for repeating that lie twice there. I NEVER once said Rodgers was THE problem.

You think Love is good.

I haven't said that either.

Man, you are on A ROLL making &%$@ up today!

The only thing your opinion is good for is to make me feel smarter. I do value that though.

Whatever I can do to make you feel better about yourself!

Reed got separation as Surtain went over both Watson and his own player.

You are just lying now. Surtain went over. If that happens you throw early and back shoulder. If he goes under air it and over top.

Love did the wrong thing. He had the completion to Reed.

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:11

Reed got separation as Surtain went over both Watson and his own player.

You are just lying now. Surtain went over. If that happens you throw early and back shoulder. If he goes under air it and over top.

Love did the wrong thing. He had the completion to Reed.

Where is this separation? The other Bronco DB working out on Reed before Surtain gets over the top. Back shoulder goes for a pick 6 and Reed isn't even looking.

I don't need to lie, I have video evidence.

Keep throwing &%$@ at the wall though! It's fun to so thoroughly and completely be able to debunk your claims!

No gaslighting today!

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:13

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:11

Reed got separation as Surtain went over both Watson and his own player.

You are just lying now. Surtain went over. If that happens you throw early and back shoulder. If he goes under air it and over top.

Love did the wrong thing. He had the completion to Reed.

Where is this separation?
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The other Bronco DB working out on Reed before Surtain gets over the top. Back shoulder goes for a pick 6 and Reed isn't even looking.

I don't need to lie, I have video evidence.

Keep throwing &%$@ at the wall though! It's fun to so thoroughly and completely be able to debunk your claims!

It is right in your photo ... you just froze the pic before he has to go behind his own player. From this pic he goes behind is teammate. The ball should be out now back shoulder. Easy reception.

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:28

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:13

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:11

Reed got separation as Surtain went over both Watson and his own player.

You are just lying now. Surtain went over. If that happens you throw early and back shoulder. If he goes under air it and over top.

Love did the wrong thing. He had the completion to Reed.

Where is this separation?
image.png

The other Bronco DB working out on Reed before Surtain gets over the top. Back shoulder goes for a pick 6 and Reed isn't even looking.

I don't need to lie, I have video evidence.

Keep throwing &%$@ at the wall though! It's fun to so thoroughly and completely be able to debunk your claims!

It is right in your photo ... you just froze the pic before he has to go behind his own player. From this pic he goes behind is teammate. The ball should be out now back shoulder. Easy reception.

Next frame: Back shoulder, still a pick 6 by the other DB.
Frame after: Surtain has now come over the top. No separation.

This gets easier and easier! Pick another play that actually was Love's fault, this is getting painful for you.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:35

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:28

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:13

Where is this separation?
image.png

The other Bronco DB working out on Reed before Surtain gets over the top. Back shoulder goes for a pick 6 and Reed isn't even looking.

I don't need to lie, I have video evidence.

Keep throwing &%$@ at the wall though! It's fun to so thoroughly and completely be able to debunk your claims!

It is right in your photo ... you just froze the pic before he has to go behind his own player. From this pic he goes behind is teammate. The ball should be out now back shoulder. Easy reception.

Next frame:
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Back shoulder, still a pick 6 by the other DB.
Frame after:
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Surtain has now come over the top. No separation.

This gets easier and easier! Pick another play that actually was Love's fault, this is getting painful for you.

No it's not lol he is running with Watson. It is not a pick

Lol

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:09

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:35

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:28

It is right in your photo ... you just froze the pic before he has to go behind his own player. From this pic he goes behind is teammate. The ball should be out now back shoulder. Easy reception.

Next frame:
image.png
Back shoulder, still a pick 6 by the other DB.
Frame after:
image.png
Surtain has now come over the top. No separation.

This gets easier and easier! Pick another play that actually was Love's fault, this is getting painful for you.

No it's not lol he is running with Watson. It is not a pick

Lol

Not Surtain... The other DB that was still widening on Reed. Keep up!!

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:11

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:09

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 16:35

Next frame:
image.png
Back shoulder, still a pick 6 by the other DB.
Frame after:
image.png
Surtain has now come over the top. No separation.

This gets easier and easier! Pick another play that actually was Love's fault, this is getting painful for you.

No it's not lol he is running with Watson. It is not a pick

Lol

Not Surtain... The other DB that was still widening on Reed. Keep up!!

No he doesn't look at your next image he is trailing with Watson.

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:20

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:11

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:09

No it's not lol he is running with Watson. It is not a pick

Lol

Not Surtain... The other DB that was still widening on Reed. Keep up!!

No he doesn't look at your next image he is trailing with Watson.

The 2nd image Surtain is already in coverage less than 2 yards from Reed. There is no separation as you claim.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:27

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:20

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:11

Not Surtain... The other DB that was still widening on Reed. Keep up!!

No he doesn't look at your next image he is trailing with Watson.

The 2nd image Surtain is already in coverage less than 2 yards from Reed. There is no separation as you claim.

Yes there is for the early back shoulder.

Are you trying to say the inside late ball was right?

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:37

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:27

bud fox wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 17:20

No he doesn't look at your next image he is trailing with Watson.

The 2nd image Surtain is already in coverage less than 2 yards from Reed. There is no separation as you claim.

Yes there is for the early back shoulder.

Are you trying to say the inside late ball was right?

Early back shoulder not with the other DB widening, it is not there.

There is not a good option to be had on that play because Watson could not execute at all.

Are you two about finished?

Yeah. To try and say Cousins's throw is the same as the Denver play is pretty wild.

Cousins had a layup. There is one player within 5 yards. Love had 3.

Throwing it flat to Hock is significantly easier than back shouldering it to Reed with a defender having an opportunity at a flat throw.

Wasn’t this the play Love was being criticized for not getting the pass off on time? Something about relieving the O-lineman of blame for being penalized for being downfield because the ball should have been out? This play where not a single receiver ran a pass route, they all went downfield to block?

This is what Love is up against. It’s brutal.

Love hasn’t been good by any stretch but, by god, this offense is a mess right now.

APB wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 23:10

Wasn’t this the play Love was being criticized for not getting the pass off on time? Something about relieving the O-lineman of blame for being penalized for being downfield because the ball should have been out? This play where not a single receiver ran a pass route, they all went downfield to block?

This is what Love is up against. It’s brutal.

Love hasn’t been good by any stretch but, by god, this offense is a mess right now.

That looks like an RPO. Hard to tell if it was Love or receivers mistake but all receivers blocked like it was a run.

APB wrote: ↑

30 Oct 2023 23:10

Wasn’t this the play Love was being criticized for not getting the pass off on time? Something about relieving the O-lineman of blame for being penalized for being downfield because the ball should have been out? This play where not a single receiver ran a pass route, they all went downfield to block?

This is what Love is up against. It’s brutal.

Love hasn’t been good by any stretch but, by god, this offense is a mess right now.

I heard it was an RPO and Doubs played it wrong.

It was honestly an incredible play by Love.