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Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 15 Nov 2023 16:26
by Yoop
bud fox wrote:
15 Nov 2023 13:20
APB wrote:
15 Nov 2023 07:31
bud fox wrote:
15 Nov 2023 04:21


MLF also said it was a poor throw and should have been earlier.
Really? I didn't hear that part.

I heard MLF speak to there being potentially better options on where to go with the ball, hinting that Love's decision to go to Watson was questionable, but where did he say "poor throw" or "should have been earlier"? After all, it was a slow developing, called double-move route concept.

I'd personally argue it was a poor decision to go to Watson but the actual throw was high quality. He put the ball right on Watson. Peterson managed to get a hand in to knock it up into the air where it was eventually intercepted, but the throw was where it needed to be for Watson to make a play on it. He didn't.

Here is MLF's full presser. His comments regarding that play start at the ~5 min mark. Help us all out by pointing out MLFs critical comments of Love that you stated above.
He starts by saying if it was a perfect ball it was there. Meaning it was a bad pass.

He also said it probably should of went elsewhere given it was 2 shell.

So there you have it.
Love still looks wound up, un settled, that leads to poor decision making, poor mechanics, about everything ya see love do poorly is a extension of what went wrong from from the start, receivers not running routes, dropped passes, free rushers, specially multiples, specially every game, that gets in a young QB's head, the consequence is obvious, Love always feels the pass rush, even when it's not a threat, however I'am seeing improvement, he did a great job on the heave to Reed ( kids got a future), navigated forward as the edge rushers closed in and got it off in the nic of time, man I wish this kid had a all pro line, little more chemistry with these puppy receivers, wouldn't we all. :mrgreen:

Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 15 Nov 2023 18:09
by APB
bud fox wrote:
15 Nov 2023 13:20
APB wrote:
15 Nov 2023 07:31
bud fox wrote:
15 Nov 2023 04:21


MLF also said it was a poor throw and should have been earlier.
Really? I didn't hear that part.

I heard MLF speak to there being potentially better options on where to go with the ball, hinting that Love's decision to go to Watson was questionable, but where did he say "poor throw" or "should have been earlier"? After all, it was a slow developing, called double-move route concept.

I'd personally argue it was a poor decision to go to Watson but the actual throw was high quality. He put the ball right on Watson. Peterson managed to get a hand in to knock it up into the air where it was eventually intercepted, but the throw was where it needed to be for Watson to make a play on it. He didn't.

Here is MLF's full presser. His comments regarding that play start at the ~5 min mark. Help us all out by pointing out MLFs critical comments of Love that you stated above.
He starts by saying if it was a perfect ball it was there. Meaning it was a bad pass.

He also said it probably should of went elsewhere given it was 2 shell.

So there you have it.
:lol: :roll:

That’s not even close to “poor throw and should have been earlier”.

Just another exaggeration.

So there you have it, indeed.

Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 15 Nov 2023 18:33
by Trudge
I just gotta say..how is anyone fine with Joe Barry, 0-16 with the Lions, leading our defense? Just...why?


Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 15 Nov 2023 18:42
by bud fox
Trudge wrote:
15 Nov 2023 18:33
I just gotta say..how is anyone fine with Joe Barry, 0-16 with the Lions, leading our defense? Just...why?

2nd and 7 is not a run def play.

Clark or Campbell should've had that gap.

As MLF says players have to win their assignments.

Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 16 Nov 2023 08:04
by Pckfn23

Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 16 Nov 2023 09:09
by Yoop
bud fox wrote:
15 Nov 2023 18:42
Trudge wrote:
15 Nov 2023 18:33
I just gotta say..how is anyone fine with Joe Barry, 0-16 with the Lions, leading our defense? Just...why?

2nd and 7 is not a run def play.

Clark or Campbell should've had that gap.

As MLF says players have to win their assignments.
of course 2nd and 7 can be a run down, we run on 2nd and 7 lots, the point that Herman is making is that both Clark and Campbell are defending two gaps, so when doing so it's probable that one or the other will be walled off from getting to the run gap, which is fair to say happened, your rolling the dice on a 50/50 chance for success stopping the run, which it's fair to say we lost on those gambles to the tune of 205 yrds, sure we can blame poor tackling, but imo we didn't set our tacklers up to do better either.

I don't know how anyone can defend these alignments that actually make it harder for us to do better, our defense looks to be throwing these games, it looks to be on purpose, 16 missed tackles, thats a 1/3rd of opposing offensive plays, my god!!!!!

Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 16 Nov 2023 09:23
by Labrev
They ran on 4th and 6 against us... and converted.

Every down is a run play when you refuse to play the run.

Re: Week 10 Post Game: Steelers vs Packers

Posted: 16 Nov 2023 14:37
by Yoop
Labrev wrote:
16 Nov 2023 09:23
They ran on 4th and 6 against us... and converted.

Every down is a run play when you refuse to play the run.
The Joe Barry Motto, it's better to not tackle or defend the run, then it is to try, but fail, :bigcry: