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NCF wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 08:25

Pugger wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 08:19

APB wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 07:17

Even with the inevitable future decline in play, Davante could cement his football legacy with HOF voters with a couple more years of high end production as the WR1 while also cementing his place among Packer legends as mentor to the WR room and a locker room leader for the entire team. Hasn't the theme of post-elimination interviews focused on lack of leaders in the locker room?

Davante has surely seen how the legacy players are treated in Titletown and how a positive relationship into retirement would be the gift that keeps giving.

It's a good move for the organization and for Adams personally.

The only way Adams "comes home" is if his contract is restructured. I doubt another team will pay him as big a coin seeing he is on the wrong side of 30 either. His responses in that interview suggest he may be open to a return. Yes, a guy like him would be a wonderful mentor in our WR room.

Not only is that not the only way, it is a highly unlikely way. No one is trading for that contract and Adams has no incentive to restructure. He will be released and free to sign an open market deal. I doubt we will be the highest bidder, but I don't think he will be solely chasing another payday, either.

I didn't suggest a trade in my post above. I too suspect NY will be releasing some veterans and Adams will be free to go wherever he pleases. The question is be will any team pay him anywhere near his present salary? I highly doubt it. I agree, he will want to go to a contender. It will be interesting what playoff caliber teams will be his suitors? I hope one of them is us.

Pugger wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 08:42

NCF wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 08:25

Pugger wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 08:19

The only way Adams "comes home" is if his contract is restructured. I doubt another team will pay him as big a coin seeing he is on the wrong side of 30 either. His responses in that interview suggest he may be open to a return. Yes, a guy like him would be a wonderful mentor in our WR room.

Not only is that not the only way, it is a highly unlikely way. No one is trading for that contract and Adams has no incentive to restructure. He will be released and free to sign an open market deal. I doubt we will be the highest bidder, but I don't think he will be solely chasing another payday, either.

I didn't suggest a trade in my post above. I too suspect NY will be releasing some veterans and Adams will be free to go wherever he pleases. The question is be will any team pay him anywhere near his present salary? I highly doubt it. I agree, he will want to go to a contender. It will be interesting what playoff caliber teams will be his suitors? I hope one of them is us.

I expect him to be low balled by GB and join someone like the Chiefs, Ravens, Bills, Buccaneers, Chargers or Texans. He will have a market despite his age just due to lack of good free agent WR.

So what are we will to pay him to come to Green Bay?

I would give him somewhere between $10 and $15 million a year, 3 years at the very MAX, preferably 2. Guarantees would be 50% at most. I would like to put escalators in there, things that would be geared more toward a veteran mentor like attending all optional mini-camps and such.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:13

So what are we will to pay him to come to Green Bay?

I would say $15M, pretty easily. Even like $17M. I do agree with the escalators/guarantees, etc. Maybe just 2 years and guarantee 75% or something.

2 for $34M with $25 guaranteed. How about that?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/pl ... ct_average

For some reference, $15 million per year would put him at 29th among WRs right now.

NCF wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:24

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:13

So what are we will to pay him to come to Green Bay?

I would say $15M, pretty easily. Even like $17M. I do agree with the escalators/guarantees, etc. Maybe just 2 years and guarantee 75% or something.

2 for $34M with $25 guaranteed. How about that?

that's low balling, I'am thinking Tae would take a offer like that insulting him, 20 per season I would think would be his minimum with two years guaranteed

If not being paid as a top 20 WR at this point in his career is insulting then he can go to the Browns or some other &%$@ organization and I hope he doesn't let the door hit him on the way out.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:40

If not being paid as a top 20 WR at this point in his career is insulting then he can go to the Browns or some other &%$@ organization and I hope he doesn't let the door hit him on the way out.

why shouldn't he be paid like a top 20, he had 1500 yrds two years ago, and that debacle in Vegas is the reason he didn't repeat that production, with the Jets he nearly caught up to Wilson, Tae still has it, and deserves to get paid for it, and he will, if not here, then teams will stand in line to give it to him, your acting like a more on.

NCF wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:24

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:13

So what are we will to pay him to come to Green Bay?

I would say $15M, pretty easily. Even like $17M. I do agree with the escalators/guarantees, etc. Maybe just 2 years and guarantee 75% or something.

2 for $34M with $25 guaranteed. How about that?

I too was thinking that $15 million range. Either 2 years for $30 million or 3 years for $40 million. Something like that. I think I would be willing to go up to 2 years for $35 million or 3 years for $45 million.

I think that's my top dollar though.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:40

If not being paid as a top 20 WR at this point in his career is insulting then he can go to the Browns or some other &%$@ organization and I hope he doesn't let the door hit him on the way out.

I think DA easily deserves a top 20ish contract.

His skill level is still very much top 20. He has not had significant health issues. His production has remained solid despite a bevy of less-than-ideal QBs throwing him the ball and continued defensive focus on him. That, and you're now asking him to not only assume the no.1 WR mantle but to also mentor the young WR room and assume a position of respect and leadership in the locker room, all of which I have no doubt he'd embrace and do exceedingly well at.

This low-balling philosophy is exactly what drove him away in the first place. Yeah, sure, Gute eventually ante'd up but by then the field had already been plowed.

APB wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 10:15

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:40

If not being paid as a top 20 WR at this point in his career is insulting then he can go to the Browns or some other &%$@ organization and I hope he doesn't let the door hit him on the way out.

I think DA easily deserves a top 20ish contract.

His skill level is still very much top 20. He has not had significant health issues. His production has remained solid despite a bevy of less-than-ideal QBs throwing him the ball and continued defensive focus on him. That, and you're now asking him to not only assume the no.1 WR mantle but to also mentor the young WR room and assume a position of respect and leadership in the locker room, all of which I have no doubt he'd embrace and do exceedingly well at.

This low-balling philosophy is exactly what drove him away in the first place. Yeah, sure, Gute eventually ante'd up but by then the field had already been plowed.

Davante still managed 85 catches for 1063 yards and 8 TDs in only 14 games this season, playing for the Raiders and Jets. Despite being 32, there's no reason to think he's going to be looking to take a low-ball offer. He's not going to get top of the market, but he's still worth more to someone.

APB wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 10:15

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:40

If not being paid as a top 20 WR at this point in his career is insulting then he can go to the Browns or some other &%$@ organization and I hope he doesn't let the door hit him on the way out.

I think DA easily deserves a top 20ish contract.

His skill level is still very much top 20. He has not had significant health issues. His production has remained solid despite a bevy of less-than-ideal QBs throwing him the ball and continued defensive focus on him. That, and you're now asking him to not only assume the no.1 WR mantle but to also mentor the young WR room and assume a position of respect and leadership in the locker room, all of which I have no doubt he'd embrace and do exceedingly well at.

This low-balling philosophy is exactly what drove him away in the first place. Yeah, sure, Gute eventually ante'd up but by then the field had already been plowed.

Agree, the value he would bring warrants easily top 20 money. I'd say top 15 money. But not top 10 money.

APB wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 10:15

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:40

If not being paid as a top 20 WR at this point in his career is insulting then he can go to the Browns or some other &%$@ organization and I hope he doesn't let the door hit him on the way out.

I think DA easily deserves a top 20ish contract.

His skill level is still very much top 20. He has not had significant health issues. His production has remained solid despite a bevy of less-than-ideal QBs throwing him the ball and continued defensive focus on him. That, and you're now asking him to not only assume the no.1 WR mantle but to also mentor the young WR room and assume a position of respect and leadership in the locker room, all of which I have no doubt he'd embrace and do exceedingly well at.

This low-balling philosophy is exactly what drove him away in the first place. Yeah, sure, Gute eventually ante'd up but by then the field had already been plowed.

I agree, he may be worth top 20 money to someone, but like I said, if he feels that $15 million, being paid as the 29th receiver, is insulting to him then I don't want him here. He is 32. I could see him around 1000 yards next year for sure, making him a low end WR1. $15 million per year is low end WR1 money. If he wants to max out his value, I personally do not want the Packers to pay that.

I say we pay him Top 20 Money because there isn't a WR on our roster that even deserves Top 40 Money at the moment.

go pak go wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 10:10

NCF wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:24

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 09:13

So what are we will to pay him to come to Green Bay?

I would say $15M, pretty easily. Even like $17M. I do agree with the escalators/guarantees, etc. Maybe just 2 years and guarantee 75% or something.

2 for $34M with $25 guaranteed. How about that?

I too was thinking that $15 million range. Either 2 years for $30 million or 3 years for $40 million. Something like that. I think I would be willing to go up to 2 years for $35 million or 3 years for $45 million.

I think that's my top dollar though.

Upon further review, I think I could go $17 million, $18 million tops.

I have had issues with the WR's for the last 4 months. That was before Watson shredded his ACL and Doubs neuro status became a HUGE question mark. At this point those two guys shouldn't even be looked at as viable players for next year right now. Which leaves 2 other guys to consider. Reed and Wicks, who were competing to see who could drop more balls all year long. IMO Wicks production is easily replaceable. Reed is a really nice player and can do multiple things. So Reed is basically the only WR IMO that has any real value right now. Pessimistic? Maybe. A year ago I loved the group. Now I see a serious problem.

I think there is a good chance DA lands back in Green Bay. They need to do something in addition to drafting a WR relatively high in this years draft.

For discussion purposes let's assume Adams signs elsewhere. Here is a list of available FA WRs:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents ... ract_value

Pugger wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 13:19

For discussion purposes let's assume Adams signs elsewhere. Here is a list of available FA WRs:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents ... ract_value

I have no idea how well the Market Value figure they put out is as a predictive tool, but the largest AAV for the receivers on that list at 30 or over is $16 Million for Keenan Allen.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 13:33

Pugger wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 13:19

For discussion purposes let's assume Adams signs elsewhere. Here is a list of available FA WRs:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents ... ract_value

I have no idea how well the Market Value figure they put out is as a predictive tool, but the largest AAV for the receivers on that list at 30 or over is $16 Million for Keenan Allen.

Its risky taking on Adams if it cost too much. He will not physically be the same player that left the Pack years ago. But, he can still be productive.

MY_TAKE wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 17:22

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 13:33

Pugger wrote: ↑

15 Jan 2025 13:19

For discussion purposes let's assume Adams signs elsewhere. Here is a list of available FA WRs:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents ... ract_value

I have no idea how well the Market Value figure they put out is as a predictive tool, but the largest AAV for the receivers on that list at 30 or over is $16 Million for Keenan Allen.

Its risky taking on Adams if it cost too much. He will not physically be the same player that left the Pack years ago. But, he can still be productive.

Elite route runners with a good release can hang around for a while. It’s the small speed receivers who’s games fall off a cliff. I think Adams can still deliver for a few years. He’s always won off his technical abilities. Nice release, excellent late hands, explosive in and out of his breaks. He will be fine.