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Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:41
by JKB
bud fox wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:33
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:31
Its all good guys. We are gonna get our 2nd year jump next year by our first round QB.
I am at the point where I will be good about splitting with Rodgers and going with Love.
I think this teams needs accountability and Rodgers hides the flaws. Moving on from Rodgers will force management and coaching to be better.
However losing the best qb of all time will probably hurt for a while
Go for a run....talking nonsense in your depression
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:42
by Crazylegs Starks
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
I just wanna know where the people are defending King for years.
<raises hand> I'm done with him. He was actually better last year, somehow he regressed
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:43
by packman114
Only 3 years ago people thought King was a shutdown corner. Every game comes down to a few plays. Here are my votes:
1. Rodgers missing Lazard open underneath near the goal line in 2nd quarter.
2. Non-call hold on Rodgers INT
3. Cover 1 defense at end of the half/Redmond drop before it
4. Jones fumble
Coaching was questionable all day. Never gave Wagner help. Didn't move the pocket much. Kicked FG at the end. And we still almost won!!!
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:43
by bud fox
salmar80 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
JKB wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:34
Had our chances and the ball.
Wasn’t the refs.
Wasn’t 1 fluke play.
Close but no cigar.
Yeeeaaah. Simply too many mistakes, both individual and coaching-related, all around to win. Wasn't even close to the product we put on the field vs the Rams.
Definitely a winnable game, just beat ourselves and TB took advantage.
Bucs felt better to me at every facet of the game except QB play - running back close aswell but they had some good catches and runs
Receivers were more open, Line blocked better, more pass rush, better coverage, better special teams.
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:43
by Pugger
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
I just wanna know where the people are defending King for years.
Don't look at me. ;-)
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:44
by JKB
salmar80 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
JKB wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:34
Had our chances and the ball.
Wasn’t the refs.
Wasn’t 1 fluke play.
Close but no cigar.
Yeeeaaah. Simply too many mistakes, both individual and coaching-related, all around to win. Wasn't even close to the product we put on the field vs the Rams.
Definitely a winnable game, just beat ourselves and TB took advantage.
As good teams should do....take advantage of teams making mistakes and beating themselves
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:45
by JKB
Pugger wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:43
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
I just wanna know where the people are defending King for years.
Don't look at me. ;-)
Someone has to play that position on every play.
Until they have someon better to line up, you go with what ya got
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:46
by bud fox
THat was such a stupid call by MLF
We get it and 2point we tie. We dont get it we have them on the 10. Still had to score either way
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:46
by JKB
bud fox wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:46
THat was such a stupid call by MLF
We get it and 2point we tie. We dont get it we have them on the 10. Still had to score either way
This type of thinking has been in vogue the last few years
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:48
by Raptorman
Shouldn't have kicked the FG. If you don't make it on 4th, you have 3 timeouts and the Bucs pinned on the 8 yards line. Instead, you kick off and give it to them on the 30.
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:48
by JKB
bud fox wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:43
salmar80 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
JKB wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:34
Had our chances and the ball.
Wasn’t the refs.
Wasn’t 1 fluke play.
Close but no cigar.
Yeeeaaah. Simply too many mistakes, both individual and coaching-related, all around to win. Wasn't even close to the product we put on the field vs the Rams.
Definitely a winnable game, just beat ourselves and TB took advantage.
Bucs felt better to me at every facet of the game except QB play - running back close aswell but they had some good catches and runs
Receivers were more open, Line blocked better, more pass rush, better coverage, better special teams.
Agreed, They are overall a better team except at QB
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:48
by lupedafiasco
packman114 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:43
Only 3 years ago people thought King was a shutdown corner. Every game comes down to a few plays. Here are my votes:
1. Rodgers missing Lazard open underneath near the goal line in 2nd quarter.
2. Non-call hold on Rodgers INT
3. Cover 1 defense at end of the half/Redmond drop before it
4. Jones fumble
Coaching was questionable all day. Never gave Wagner help. Didn't move the pocket much. Kicked FG at the end. And we still almost won!!!
In no order:
King falling down against Evans for a TD.
King burned before half.
King PI.
Jones Fumble.
Adams dropped TD.
Rodgers missed throw/Adams doesnt drag feet/Lazard open.
LaFleur not going for it on 4th.
Redmond not able to catch a pick before TD at half.
Redmond not able to get pick after deflection.
Rodgers missing Adams wide open on free play. I think they scored anyways.
ESB dropping easy 2pt conv.
Everyone not tackling Fournette on TD run.
ST kick return gaffe because we cant kick into the endzone like a normal $%@# team.
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:48
by salmar80
Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:42
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
I just wanna know where the people are defending King for years.
<raises hand> I'm done with him. He was actually better last year, somehow he regressed
I thought King would develop into a good matchup vs certain types of WRs. But as a CB2, he either regressed this year or teams really figured out his game. I no longer see him as a CB2, more like a backup you'd trot out selectively.
In that vein, Sullivan better not be CB3 next year. And I want to forget Redmond ever existed.
Gutey has his work cut out at CB.
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:49
by JKB
Raptorman wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:48
Shouldn't have kicked the FG. If you don't make it on 4th, you have 3 timeouts and the Bucs pinned on the 8 yards line. Instead, you kick off and give it to them on the 30.
Agreed, sure hindsite but I would never bet agaisnt Brady getting a first down
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:50
by Drj820
Rodgers isn’t to blame, but another play where he wasn’t good enough...the free play when bucs jumped offsides and he went to the FB, Adams was wide open for sure td and 12 never looked at him.
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:50
by Pugger
Raptorman wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:48
Shouldn't have kicked the FG. If you don't make it on 4th, you have 3 timeouts and the Bucs pinned on the 8 yards line. Instead, you kick off and give it to them on the 30.
I believe it was a mistake to go for 2 earlier.
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:51
by bud fox
Drj820 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:50
Rodgers isn’t to blame, but another play where he wasn’t good enough...the free play when bucs jumped offsides and he went to the FB, Adams was wide open for sure td and 12 never looked at him.
Didnt we score on that drive?
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:51
by Drj820
Run defense was actually good.
MVS was actually good.
Pretty much everyone else played a role in the loss. Hurts just a touch less bc the team collectively showed they were ready to be done for the season.
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:51
by JKB
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:48
packman114 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:43
Only 3 years ago people thought King was a shutdown corner. Every game comes down to a few plays. Here are my votes:
1. Rodgers missing Lazard open underneath near the goal line in 2nd quarter.
2. Non-call hold on Rodgers INT
3. Cover 1 defense at end of the half/Redmond drop before it
4. Jones fumble
Coaching was questionable all day. Never gave Wagner help. Didn't move the pocket much. Kicked FG at the end. And we still almost won!!!
In no order:
King falling down against Evans for a TD.
King burned before half.
King PI.
Jones Fumble.
Adams dropped TD.
Rodgers missed throw/Adams doesnt drag feet/Lazard open.
LaFleur not going for it on 4th.
Redmond not able to catch a pick before TD at half.
Redmond not able to get pick after deflection.
Rodgers missing Adams wide open on free play. I think they scored anyways.
ESB dropping easy 2pt conv.
Everyone not tackling Fournette on TD run.
ST kick return gaffe because we cant kick into the endzone like a normal $%@# team.
Show me the Adam’s drop pass?
Impossible to drag feet on a ball that high and deep.
Both those were on AR
Re: Buccaneers @ Packers - NFCC Playoff GDT - 1/24 - 2:05 CST
Posted: 24 Jan 2021 17:52
by Pugger
salmar80 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:48
Crazylegs Starks wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:42
lupedafiasco wrote: ↑24 Jan 2021 17:39
I just wanna know where the people are defending King for years.
<raises hand> I'm done with him. He was actually better last year, somehow he regressed
I thought King would develop into a good matchup vs certain types of WRs. But as a CB2, he either regressed this year or teams really figured out his game. I no longer see him as a CB2, more like a backup you'd trot out selectively.
In that vein, Sullivan better not be CB3 next year. And I want to forget Redmond ever existed.
Gutey has his work cut out at CB.
We missed Greene back there.