Packers Huddle

I should find Woden’s presser, maybe get me more excited.

He was probably my least favorite draft pick. His size doesn’t seem to have a real position, and with Van Ness, really adding a lot of this tweener types.

Can only play 2-3 at a time, either you’ll get killed in the run or you can drop anyone in coverage, and guys that size their forte probably isn’t pass rushing.

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23 May 2023 13:59

what about Toure I had to lol…

But seriously, Bill Huber summarizes todays practice. [mention]YoHoChecko[/mention] there are some details on Van Ness’s work in there.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/hi ... ckers-otas

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23 May 2023 21:59

I should find Woden’s presser, maybe get me more excited.

He was probably my least favorite draft pick. His size doesn’t seem to have a real position, and with Van Ness, really adding a lot of this tweener types.

Can only play 2-3 at a time, either you’ll get killed in the run or you can drop anyone in coverage, and guys that size their forte probably isn’t pass rushing.

I didn't pay attention to him at all pre-draft because I didn't like his 'tweener size.

Turns out he was an all-freshman SEC contributor on the inside who Auburn poorly developed and utilized. They kept putting him outside and inside and using him as a hybrid and kind of maintaining that size. He says he'll add bulk and muscle now that he knows he's inside, and inside is where he wants to be.

He also said he's only ever been a bench warmer once and he decided never again (I think he was referencing high school). He's an interior pass rush specialist all day. No need to play him on anything but 3rd and long. We have Clark, Wyatt, and Slayton for the other stuff, not to mention whatever development and rotational impact we get from Brooks. I just think Wooden will be ready to contribute in a very specific role immediately. Just have to use him right and let him develop from there.

Curious to hear what, if any, takeaways one takes from this tweet, assuming it's accurate:

Pretty standard for fumbles in practice.

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24 May 2023 06:25

Curious to hear what, if any, takeaways one takes from this tweet, assuming it's accurate:

I believe they call that the Cam Newton rule.

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23 May 2023 22:10

Yoop wrote: ↑

23 May 2023 13:59

what about Toure I had to lol…

**snip**

'Not really seeing the mind-blowing transformation that our WR coach was talking about. 'Looks the same as I remembered.

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 06:25

Curious to hear what, if any, takeaways one takes from this tweet, assuming it's accurate:

They dont want players diving on the ball and causing pile ups in practice because it can cause injuries.

YoHoChecko wrote: ↑

23 May 2023 17:44

Here's what happens if you respond to Yoop like a normal poster instead of fact checking and calling out all his contradictions. A normal, non-aggressive, not overly side-tracked, not runaway exchange between two (three, for a second) Packers fans with different opinions about Rodgers, Adams, and the Front Office.

thanks Yoho, appreciate the comment, the grilling just drags out the back and forth, I'll keep trying to refrain from them, my bad.

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24 May 2023 06:25

Curious to hear what, if any, takeaways one takes from this tweet, assuming it's accurate:

what was your take, seriously, do you think our coach is a wussy?

why take a chance on a injury in a OTA, no one from either side should go after that ball, this isn't a padded practice

first thought to pop into my head is how many Larry McCarren's do we want on the team

Labrev wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 08:27

APB wrote: ↑

23 May 2023 22:10

Yoop wrote: ↑

23 May 2023 13:59

what about Toure I had to lol…

**snip**

'Not really seeing the mind-blowing transformation that our WR coach was talking about. 'Looks the same as I remembered.

yep just coach speak, hey I hope Toure does great, I just expect Wicks to do gooder

wonder who played up safety, I expect if the starters are Savage and Ford that Ford would play deep and Savage in the SS position near the los.

Yoop wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 08:55

thanks Yoho, appreciate the comment, the grilling just drags out the back and forth, I'll keep trying to refrain from them, my bad.

And then 3 MINUTES LATER your VERY NEXT SENTENCE in your VERY NEXT POST:

Yoop wrote:what was your take, seriously, do you think our coach is a wussy?

Yet another instance of you instigating another hostile exchange. I have no idea why you felt the need to put words in my mouth or use such provocative language in response to my completely unopinionated and innocuous question.

Yeah, Yoho's advice to avoid confrontation with you was well put and applicable, but it goes both ways. How about YOU trying to communicate in ways that don't come across as being a complete $%@# a-hole.

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 06:25

Curious to hear what, if any, takeaways one takes from this tweet, assuming it's accurate:

My take as it relates to a recent conversation on this forum:

One could argue the mindset of a team starts with the HC. If the HC is basically encouraging "business decisions" in practice, do you think that mindset translates to the playing field on Sundays?

I think that's possible.

I'm not saying it's the sole reason the tackling on defense is consistently less-than-stellar year in and year out, but you could make the argument it's a contributing factor.

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24 May 2023 09:47

One could argue the mindset of a team starts with the HC. If the HC is basically encouraging "business decisions" in practice, do you think that mindset translates to the playing field on Sundays?

I think that's possible.

I'm not saying it's the sole reason the tackling on defense is consistently less-than-stellar year in and year out, but you could make the argument it's a contributing factor.

When I said it is standard practice, I mean it is standard practice for all levels of football. I would bet EVERY NFL team does the same. I would bet almost every, NCAA team does the same. Even for our HS team, we make sure they stay off the ground. We drill fumble and fumble recovery, but don't want multiple guys diving on the ground, head first around other legs.

Also 2021 was a very good tackling squad. Not sure where that went in 2022.

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 10:03

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 09:47

One could argue the mindset of a team starts with the HC. If the HC is basically encouraging "business decisions" in practice, do you think that mindset translates to the playing field on Sundays?

I think that's possible.

I'm not saying it's the sole reason the tackling on defense is consistently less-than-stellar year in and year out, but you could make the argument it's a contributing factor.

When I said it is standard practice, I mean it is standard practice for all levels of football. I would bet EVERY NFL team does the same. I would bet almost every, NCAA team does the same. Even for our HS team, we make sure they stay off the ground. We drill fumble and fumble recovery, but don't want multiple guys diving on the ground, head first around other legs.

Also 2021 was a very good tackling squad. Not sure where that went in 2022.

Yeah, there is definitely two sides to consider. I, too, am torn between maintaining a level of instinctual aggression on the field and being mindful of injury. I'm not sure there's a perfect answer.

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24 May 2023 09:40

Yoop wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 08:55

thanks Yoho, appreciate the comment, the grilling just drags out the back and forth, I'll keep trying to refrain from them, my bad.

And then 3 MINUTES LATER your VERY NEXT SENTENCE in your VERY NEXT POST:

Yoop wrote:what was your take, seriously, do you think our coach is a wussy?

Yet another instance of you instigating another hostile exchange. I have no idea why you felt the need to put words in my mouth or use such provocative language in response to my completely unopinionated and innocuous question.

Yeah, Yoho's advice to avoid confrontation with you was well put and applicable, but it goes both ways. How about YOU trying to communicate in ways that don't come across as being a complete $%@# a-hole.

cripes man you saw the vid, no pads means no scrums, no physical contact, you where insinuating that Lafleur is a soft coach.

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 10:19

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 10:03

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 09:47

One could argue the mindset of a team starts with the HC. If the HC is basically encouraging "business decisions" in practice, do you think that mindset translates to the playing field on Sundays?

I think that's possible.

I'm not saying it's the sole reason the tackling on defense is consistently less-than-stellar year in and year out, but you could make the argument it's a contributing factor.

When I said it is standard practice, I mean it is standard practice for all levels of football. I would bet EVERY NFL team does the same. I would bet almost every, NCAA team does the same. Even for our HS team, we make sure they stay off the ground. We drill fumble and fumble recovery, but don't want multiple guys diving on the ground, head first around other legs.

Also 2021 was a very good tackling squad. Not sure where that went in 2022.

Yeah, there is definitely two sides to consider. I, too, am torn between maintaining a level of instinctual aggression on the field and being mindful of injury. I'm not sure there's a perfect answer.

Makes me wonder too if it would be worth them doing Fumble Recovery drills. Maybe they already do but causing the fumble is only half the battle, recovering it is important and I'm sure every team can point to scenarios where they say "gosh if only we could have come up with that one".

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 10:19

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 10:03

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 09:47

One could argue the mindset of a team starts with the HC. If the HC is basically encouraging "business decisions" in practice, do you think that mindset translates to the playing field on Sundays?

I think that's possible.

I'm not saying it's the sole reason the tackling on defense is consistently less-than-stellar year in and year out, but you could make the argument it's a contributing factor.

When I said it is standard practice, I mean it is standard practice for all levels of football. I would bet EVERY NFL team does the same. I would bet almost every, NCAA team does the same. Even for our HS team, we make sure they stay off the ground. We drill fumble and fumble recovery, but don't want multiple guys diving on the ground, head first around other legs.

Also 2021 was a very good tackling squad. Not sure where that went in 2022.

Yeah, there is definitely two sides to consider. I, too, am torn between maintaining a level of instinctual aggression on the field and being mindful of injury. I'm not sure there's a perfect answer.

We would like there to be 2 sides and want our team to be aggressive, but in reality there is only 1 side. No teams practice diving on "live" balls to recover fumbles in practice. It is just not worth the injury risk. I know it is preached to stay off the ground at all time and that is also a standard practice in football practices across all levels. So, we aren't "behind" other teams in this regard. Now, they undoubtedly drill it in a controlled setting.

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 10:19

Pckfn23 wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 10:03

APB wrote: ↑

24 May 2023 09:47

One could argue the mindset of a team starts with the HC. If the HC is basically encouraging "business decisions" in practice, do you think that mindset translates to the playing field on Sundays?

I think that's possible.

I'm not saying it's the sole reason the tackling on defense is consistently less-than-stellar year in and year out, but you could make the argument it's a contributing factor.

When I said it is standard practice, I mean it is standard practice for all levels of football. I would bet EVERY NFL team does the same. I would bet almost every, NCAA team does the same. Even for our HS team, we make sure they stay off the ground. We drill fumble and fumble recovery, but don't want multiple guys diving on the ground, head first around other legs.

Also 2021 was a very good tackling squad. Not sure where that went in 2022.

Yeah, there is definitely two sides to consider. I, too, am torn between maintaining a level of instinctual aggression on the field and being mindful of injury. I'm not sure there's a perfect answer.

both of you are missing the point, these are off season training activities, basically walk throughs in shorts, the goal is teaching positional responsibilities, route, schemes, blocking assignments, etc.